Indeed (which is what i said, lol)
But here is the thing, after SF4, every single fg they have released has sold worse than the previous one.
MVC3 sales suffered because after 3 months of its release it was announced that ultimate was coming 5 months after the announcement.
That shit killed any momentum the series had.
And that game was a game where they truly invested more than what they invested on SF4.
SFxT, a major crossover in the vein of what CVS was in the early 2000’s also flopped in their eyes.
And while they reussed assets, they still made a considerable amount of investment on the game since they had to work on creating the Tekken cast (even if they used some shortcuts like using Seth’s model to make ogre)
SFV took years to actually sell what they hoped will sell in its 1st month.
Of course, they halfassed the launch, and that directly affected it.
Each game has been on this loop where it sells worse than the previous game, so they scale down how much they invest on the next game, culminating on the shitshow that mvci was.
The only reason why we had DMCV for example is because they had a considerable success with DMC4 special edition.
Otherwise you can bet they will have not made the game.
Right now, Capcom doesnt really have an insentive to invest on fgs outside SF.
And seeing that they had to have help from sony to even take that project from the ground, i wouldnt be surprised if Sony once again money hatted the project.
It didnt fail, but it missed the mark from their perspective.
It is why you see that the bulk of developement was scaled down to just add new chars and costumes.
It is also why MVCI ended being the trashfire it was.
MvC3 was fun until I looked it and realized the did a lot of stupid intentionally. They meant to be that. I get some people like it, but its a wack game.
SF5 is basically the same way. Its meant to be shitty.
The scene isn’t breaking games anymore; Capcom just releases purposefully wack things and that’s that.
MvC3 never stopped being fun. DHC glitch, 80k, Tac infinite’s and a bunch of other broken shit was found that wasnt intentional. Only thing wrong with MvC3 was Xfactor.
MvC3 is good, you’re a hater. And the worst kind of hater when you still playing wack ass SFV.
On the subject of MVC3.
I blame the community for MVC3 being shitty.
You had them asking for the game to be broken.
Whinning at the earliest phases of the game because it had x or y mechanics, or being too strict with its hitstun proration and shit like that.
They changed accordingly to what the community was asking. (just remember how d3v keeps touting as a positive that some random letter that fanatiq wrote made it to capcom dev team)
I love playing the game, but i wouldnt deny that the game devolved into trash at higher levels.
I still wonder what would have been if they stayed true to their vision.
Imo, having a game where the high level play is who lands tods isnt a possitive.
MVC3 is at its best on mid level play.
Once you pass that, the game becomes less fun because the bullshit is not the type of fun bullshit.
I mean, the translation of “kusoge” is literally “shit game”.
And let’s be honest. Crack games are shit. They have hella stupid shit all over the place. You’re right though, that doesn’t mean they’re not fun.
I mean, look at Marvel 2. That game was thoroughly stupid.
Balance was fucked, there were infinites, top tier was just leagues above the rest, but goddamn, you won’t see a single person here that will say the game wasn’t some degree of fun.
What’s funny is that I didn’t mind DHC glitch, TAC infinites or the 80k nonsense (btw, 80 nonsense is still a TOD on Thor at the lowest damage level). It was a bunch of the other decisions that went into the characters that bothered me.
Shit happens with all that (matter of fact, think i was one of the few people who was okay with the DHC glitch because it gave more of the cast damage but that shit got fixed and a bunch of characters suddenly ate a dick…who would’ve known?!).
But like…Zero goes in the air and then a lot of the cast can’t anti air him…why? Same with the silly ass buster cancel he got. He didn’t need that shit ever. Then the rest of the game is full of random bad decisions like that on of ToDs from random light hits constantly. Its one thing you got a good ass hit, but MvC3 was any hit because lols.
Wolverine had a teleport that he could super cancel and lead to a ToD? Fine. Wolverine dashed up to like 90% of the cast and hit cr.l and they couldn’t deal…why? Some of the shit that irks me is weird. All the moves that forced hard knockdowns with charaters that could easily OTG for full combos was also some dumb shit.
And then no assists with invincibility because reasons; all of Dark Phoenix etc.
Oh and X-factor. That mechanic literally never needed to exist. I know why its there and its still a dumb ass mechanic.
Edit: It isn’t that there aren’t a lot of things in MvC3 that have merit. The midtier to low tier game in MvC3 is full of crazy cool stuff that’s basically unexplored or underexplored. If you’re just gonna pick random characters, its kind of a great game for that. But bro, I can’t be hitting you with a normal from super jump height, you get grounded and then I get a combo out of it. Fuck out of here with that wack design. Its dumb.
Zero is like the most technical fraud character ever. Its so easy to be inordinately dangerous with him. I had like, maybe 2 or 3 Zero players I respect and then a bunch of frauds who got carried by the Robot Wheelchair himself.
You know what’s the funniest thing about Zero? The most optimal way to do Lightning Loops was also the easiest way to do it. You know how many high level Zeros did optimized lightning loops? None because Zero is a dumb ass character so fuck it.
Too bad that doesnt really matter when the number of valid strategies gets reduced by what the game devolves at high level play.
It is why i loved when Chris G shaked the status quo with MorriDoom
Chris g, Ryanlv, fchamp, justin wong, kaneblueriver all had very different teams and strategies. The highest level of play actually had a good bit of variety
The issue was mainly zero and vergil being as good as they were in the meta
Forgot to add apologymans busted ass team in there lol. Coach Steve with the Spencer. Moons with the nova. Rayray with the fuzzy master ryu before he went full top tier lol