I try not to watch things that actively give me cancer, can ya go into more detail? 
I fucking knew this shit would happen. I was so excited for this game in the middle of the year, and the gems and Pandora nonsense have totally murdered my hype. Pay to win pre-order/DLC gems, pain in the ass between-match âgem checksâ that make gems seemingly totally unviable for comp play, and nevermind the ridiculous things the gems ACTUALLY do. Maybe I should just get back into BlazBlue.
Ca$hcom:
Standard pack: Immense Power Level 2: Connect with 10 normals: +20% damage; -10% speed. 15 seconds
CE/PRE Order pack: Immense Power Level 2: Connect with 10 normals: +20% damage; 15 seconds NO DRAWBACK
this also enables the option to get +40% damage after 10 normals that the ânormal buyerâ DOES NOT HAVE. great job, great job.
Nice to see two days of no internet due to moving back to Richmond hasnât changed things much around here.
If you guys plan on actually winning money in these tournaments, you probably shouldnât be completely reliant on online play to get your fix. What pains me the most about all of this argument about Gems vs No Gems is that the biggest complaint is that you canât turn them off. Why the hell should that make any difference in the first place? It adds a couple of extra seconds on the select screen? It forces us to think a little bit extra? What the tournament standard decides will mean that everyone at UFGT or EVO or whatever is going to be on equal playing groundâŚbut online, who the hell gives a shit?
Besides, even if DLC Gems cost something (Iâm just getting the LE for the comic book)âŚare we so doubtful of our abilities that these gems will make it so that weâll be free to the formerly free?
@PsychoBlue what Richmond you talking about? Richmond CA? or Richmond VA?
anyways i think the biggest thing is people wanting know how they will Deal with Gems in General~ or competitive play~
Online~ people are going to use them anyways~ no matter what so there is no use in try to change that.
iâve said my piece in the how TO deal with Gems thread, but about DLC Gems and avaliblityâŚyou would be surprised to see on PSN each Gem pack being $2.99 to $4.99 a popâŚand you would have saved money getting the LEâŚhumm smells like MVC3âŚbut w/e~
thatâs not the point. just look at my example, if you think thatâs fair - you prolly not serious about beat em ups.
also, to take your example, what if you play someone who is exactly at your level and play your character, but now beats you consitently because he can do 20% more damage then you with the same bnb combo? 
I havenât been serious about BEUs in a long time: I play fighting games, BEUs is stuff like Final Fight and Streets of Rage.
Anyway, if the other guy is rocking me with some damage boosters, then I should probably swallow my pride and start using the tools that are given to me: the same set of tools he has with him. If he is beating me consistently because he can do more damage with his bnbs, then I just need to find a way to counter that with the tools that are at my disposal. In fact Iâll say the other guy is the better player because he has the common sense to make use of the full range of options the game has to offer while Iâm working off the bare basics.
If itâs there, use it. Itâs not exactly rocket science.
@therook: Richmond, VA.
isnât that the point? you canât.
@psychoblue: ahh ic~
well in the end your left with these choices~
-Get the Standard EditionâŚget the pre-order Gems for your respected store.
-Get the Limited EditionâŚGet all the GemsâŚand otherâŚlame stuff Artbook, Comic, gay piggy bank you gotta makeâŚ
-Donât Get it at all and be a Salty Mofo about the game~
I agree.Itâs not rocket science at all. Itâs quite simple actually. Donât buy the game⌠this game is so fuckin scrubby it makes me sick. I bet this game will drop out and die faster than Mortal Kombat did.
Why not? Thereâs still plenty of other gems and options you have available to you. Between all of the different combinations and variables, eventually youâll find something thatâll help you get the leg up over 20% booster guy. Like any match-up, itâs going to require a bit of homework. How often are you getting comboâd? What characters is he using and how well do they match up with yours? How is he activating the 20% boost? If you put a little extra thought into the match-up, if youâre worth your salt, youâll eventually start to close the gap until that 20% wonât matter. If you keep rushing headlong into things without thinking, then of course youâre going to get owned.
The only thing stopping someone from using those options is their own stubbornness.
What I donât understand is how can tournaments decide the standards. Everyone feel free to correct me if Iâm wrong but wasnât the common consensus of the players themselves the deciding factor which TOâs followed suit with? Iâm pretty sure that all of this âwe will not allow gems in X tournamentâ are kneejerk reactions but the game isnât out yet.
but that is still not the point. itâs about being milked to actually START ON THE SAME LEVEL. he simply gets a semi-major headstart due to MONEY.
he can get +40% damage after 10 hits, you canât get exactly that, no matter what you try to achive with the gems you have.
also, less options to chose from = disadvantage per se. period.
kinda like what i said in the ranting thread~ people are getting necessities mixed up with preferences.
what i mean by that isâŚalot of people âThinkâ the Game should be played either With this set of Gems or without Gems altogether~ but the fact of the matter is where it matters (usually in a Offline major tournament) the general rules will be decided on the TOâŚperiod
Online its a different story as its the skies the limit. if you dont have access to DLC Gems and your opponent doesâŚyou think hes going to care? what Blue said about learning match ups and learning ways around DLC Gems is the way to go, if you have access to them, more power to you. but you canât let that stop you, and you shouldnâtâŚits that mind set that has people so screw up nowâŚ
we all have different preferencesâŚbut when these preferences clash is when problems like these ariseâŚand people think that this âMust beâ how things âshouldâ be.
Well itâs time to stay away from this forum because only negative things will be said until new characters get released. You guy act like gems are gonna be a game breaker like Ultraâs or Xfactor. Ohhh 20% power boost for 15 seconds :crybaby: At least it aint something retarded like xfactor what is it like a 150% power boost or something Only thing I donât agree with is the gem bundle pack, even that wonât be a game breaker but still.
EDIT: Also, James Chen made a good point. I totally donât like the guyâŚhe tries to hard, but he made a valid point. People are over exaggerating big time.
The, potentially, most interesting thing to me involving the gems was the mind/meta games involved with the activation conditions. However, according to that shameless infomercial the activation conditions are blind? Way to go guys (even if it is only for online play).
Im sure the game will do fine commercially even without my $, I just hope that if it turns out that this isnt a tourney worthy game, that it doesnt occupy a spot on tourney lineups that another, tourney viable game otherwise would. (For better or worse, Im rooting for KOFXIII at Evo at this point)
Well, remember that there are three rounds in a match. At most, you only need one round to find out most of the conditions, and assuming your opponent doesnât change gems, youâll know going in.
I think you will know your opponentâs condition going in. You might not know it online, but youâd have to be agreeing for everyone to step out of the room offline while someone picks their gem sets for you to not know your opponentâs activation conditions.
by âat mostâ, do you mean âat leastâ?
Or is everybody gonna sit and watch their opponent pick gems. Doesnt sound built for smooth-running tourneys in mind
i donât see a problem~
if you canât tell initially what Gems your opponent is using isnât a bad thing, more or lessâŚyou should be more worried about controlling the pace of the match then about his/her Gem set. youâll know what Gems they are using anyways by the activation condition if not, youâll get a rough idea of their play style and should adjust accordinglyâŚ
having intel on your opponent is cool but i dont think its necessary to know their Gem Sets and stuffâŚ
Yeah, I meant at least.