The Final Fantasy Thread 2.0 | FFXV: OUT NOW! It Really Did Exist

YorKeY · 2014-02-21T04:21:06.000Z

Final Fantasy 7’s story could have been written by a 7 year old at the top of his class or a regular 9 year old.

toddler316 · 2014-02-21T04:25:49.000Z

YorKeY:

Final Fantasy 7’s story could have been written by a 7 year old at the top of his class or a regular 9 year old.

Yet we are blessed with you mentally handicapped commentary in this thread.
God Bless 'Merica.

Phantom_Angel · 2014-02-21T05:20:53.000Z

He’s just trying to get attention. Ignore him.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · 2014-02-21T06:11:47.000Z

After using it for a bit, I feel like Slayer is better than Artemis Arrows.

The schema starts with no ATB. So you cant use it for the first 10-20 seconds. You could argue the same about slayer, but if you fight a character with a bad weakness you can stun really fast and use slayer. Miniflan, Reaver, Niblet, Zaltys, Dryad, and Anubys can all get staggered really fast if you have the right abilities, just to name a few.
You get a nearly worthless ability at the cost of Artemis Arrows. Shadowbind doesnt do much damage, takes a very large majority of your ATB bar to execute, on top of the “Stop an enemy from moving momentarily” effect maybe lasting 4 seconds at most if the cards are in your favor.
When you can actually do artemis arrows, it only does 18k-25k ballpark damage. When you stagger, the value doesnt change too much. I’d rather hit somebody for 10k with heavy slash, and then smack em with 30k-75k when they get staggered as many times as my bar allows me.

In conclusion, Slayer v Artemis Arrows is just preference. In my case, I prefer Slayer.

Lastly, against Earth Eaters, did anybody figure out what to do against their swallow attack the gives them health. It’s unblockable and I havent been able to hit them out of it. If I have EP to spare, I just do Army of One to stop the attack and get some free damage.

Saitsu · 2014-02-21T06:14:34.000Z

Phantom_Angel:

He’s just trying to get attention. Ignore him.

He’s also a Rock Howard fraud.

Joshkaz · 2014-02-21T06:16:17.000Z

Perfect block it or evade.

Shadowbind is the only way to inflict the Daze status effect in 13-3 and Daze’d enemies take double damage.
AA has a weird percentage where it can do anything from like 50% to 150% or so damage while Slayer is 100% to 150% Numbers might be wrong, but its why AA can sometimes do less damage then just do a shit ton.
In terms of Physical garbs I prefer Miqo’te over both, and Martial Monk over Miqo’te.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · 2014-02-21T06:23:14.000Z

I have yet to see it pull out the mentioned “shit ton” damage rate. It certainly didnt do me many favors against a chaos chocobo eater thats for sure. I tried perfect blocking it many times and no dice. I wish you could disable the camera cinematics during battles sometimes. Kind of a bitch to time perfect blocks from time to time when you have this 500X Zoom-in close up of the thing you’re fighting.

Joshkaz · 2014-02-21T06:25:10.000Z

When I used SoP I was doing 100K damage with it with a pretty bleh setup.
So all I can say is bad setup or just unlucky.

Keep the Camera longview or whatever its called. Helps with the craziness at times.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · 2014-02-21T06:33:00.000Z

Even in longview, it still does the zoom in on certain moves. And I was using Flesh Rend which is a pretty strong sword. So I was probably just unlucky or something

Joshkaz · 2014-02-21T06:35:50.000Z

It does D:

All I can say is learn the timing with a setup the pretty much negates all physical damage.

Phantom_Angel · 2014-02-21T06:49:13.000Z

I’ve done over 80k with Artemis’ Arrows lol

Cisco · 2014-02-21T07:04:56.000Z

Damn 13-3 is fun as hell. Anyway, how can i get the cloud garb? I didn’t get this via preorder and i can’t find it in the DLC shops.

toddler316 · 2014-02-21T07:18:53.000Z

Cisco:

Damn 13-3 is fun as hell. Anyway, how can i get the cloud garb? I didn’t get this via preorder and i can’t find it in the DLC shops.

likely have to wait on it then unfortunately.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · 2014-02-21T07:50:57.000Z

So what are you guys using that compliments Artemis arrows? Because I’m not seeing whatever mystical witchcraft that unlocks its secrets.

Phantom_Angel · 2014-02-21T07:58:23.000Z

XthAtGAm3RGuYX:

So what are you guys using that compliments Artemis arrows? Because I’m not seeing whatever mystical witchcraft that unlocks its secrets.

What level Heavy Slash are you using? It’s damage scales with it. Also, what’s your Physical attack?

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · 2014-02-21T08:04:15.000Z

Phantom_Angel:

XthAtGAm3RGuYX:

So what are you guys using that compliments Artemis arrows? Because I’m not seeing whatever mystical witchcraft that unlocks its secrets.

What level Heavy Slash are you using? It’s damage scales with it. Also, what’s your Physical attack?

Partially upgraded Lv2. x3.60 damage. My physical attack on the schema is 2037

Picture for reference. Yeah it’s a CRT TV. Get over it. These older TV’s dont like cameras very much.

Spoiler

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Phantom_Angel · 2014-02-21T08:23:07.000Z

XthAtGAm3RGuYX:

Phantom_Angel:

XthAtGAm3RGuYX:

So what are you guys using that compliments Artemis arrows? Because I’m not seeing whatever mystical witchcraft that unlocks its secrets.

What level Heavy Slash are you using? It’s damage scales with it. Also, what’s your Physical attack?

Partially upgraded Lv2. x3.60 damage. My physical attack on the schema is 2037

Your attack is higher than mine, but my Heavy Slash was stronger. Idk why you’re getting the results you are.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX · 2014-02-21T08:33:40.000Z

Phantom_Angel:

XthAtGAm3RGuYX:

Phantom_Angel:

XthAtGAm3RGuYX:

So what are you guys using that compliments Artemis arrows? Because I’m not seeing whatever mystical witchcraft that unlocks its secrets.

What level Heavy Slash are you using? It’s damage scales with it. Also, what’s your Physical attack?

Partially upgraded Lv2. x3.60 damage. My physical attack on the schema is 2037

Your attack is higher than mine, but my Heavy Slash was stronger. Idk why you’re getting the results you are.

Im actually looking through my bestiary to see what drops heavy slashes. All of them got funneled into that level 2 at some point or another. But yeah I just fought a meoketon or whatever the fuck thats called, staggered him, cast Deprotect Lv3, did artemis arrows and just barely broke 20k. The deprotect brought it up maybe 500 from the normal artemis hit on that monster. I was pulling about 22k on desert sahagins

Anubys drops heavy slash. I remember seeing a few in snow’s palace so heres hoping that works. I also bought a Chiron Gauntlet so now my physical is 2217

Just did slayer on a staggered cyclops. Did 163,000 damage and got the Fatal Impact achievement. You literally cannot convince me Artemis Arrows is better anymore.

Joshkaz · 2014-02-21T09:17:55.000Z

I can and Will.

Meoketons don’t get normal staggered btw. They just get knocked down.

I just need to find an enemy I wont kill instantly.

SoP 700K
Cloud 560K
The reason why Slayer can > AA at times is because AA has a weird damage percentage, but like I said as long as you keep upping Heavy Slash both work fine, and imo inferior to Martial Monks Whirlwind kick of ultimate pain.

Phantom_Angel · 2014-02-21T09:20:46.000Z

Try using Artemis’ Arrows on a staggered Reaver, or that same Cyclops.