Chuck is old enough to have fathered one of those kids.
voodazz
1582
Wasnât Chuck in his late 20s in âReturn of the Dragonâ? Fuckerâs old.
At first I was with him and his wifeâs silent nods reassured me, but he lost me when he let his female speak instead of making her give birth to a rape baby. Moderate republicans like him sicken me.
the heck⌠the video was taking down. CONSPIRACY!!!
Are you going to vote SRK?
Or is having apathy about who is going to win the right mindset at this point?
Azure
1586
Red or Blue, they all work for the Green.
And we ainât the Green.
Maybe because itâs been a proven failure time and time again in society. Socialism doesnât work because it relies on government, a government of men, who generally mismange money. It takes power and the ability to generate and create wealth out of the hands of people, and into the hands of government. To be pro socialist is to be anti-individual and anti-liberty. There is no liberty when the government basically controls all services, and close the market. Socialism almost always turns into an oppressive dictatorship as well.
There are things like liberal socialism practiced throughout Europe and Canada. However, one must keep in mind Americaâs big population. Such a system with 300 million people will eventually become unsustainable and collapse on itself. Also factor in government corruption (which is inevitable), and you have a system easy to exploit. Either you have services, but donât have taxes, but inflation goes up. Or you have taxes, or you simply have no taxes or inflation, but donât have the services. Pick your poison. I personally stand by the free market, and not the government and socialism to take care of society.
But Socialism doesnât really cover revenue, just the basic comforts of living.
Like light, and gas, and shelter, and basic food and waterâŚ
Companies like Apple and Sega and other shit would still be free market.
Also, Americaâs free market isnât even free, itâs pretty socialist as it is.
Azure
1589
There is no such thing as free markets within a capitalist system, much less one with lobbyists.
America is pretty antithetical to both socialism AND free-market economies.
Capitalism, in its purest form, is feudalism without the fancy trappings of the lords affecting giving a damn about the serfs.
Sent from my thumbs, using SRK technology.
Americaâs market is more free than a lot of other countries. But anyway, socialism canât work without some sort of capital. Since socialism itself is based on market, it HAS to control the means of production. I understand that some services are government controlled, but the more government control a market, the less efficient it is. The housing market doesnât need to be controlled by the government either.
Again, most things government are pretty bad. I would hate for my shelter, gas, and basic food and water to be controlled by the government. The government doesnât have to take care of these things because the government cannot go out of business. A company can, so they HAVE to produce some sort of quality. Otherwise, someone who does have quality can get into that market, and cause profit loss for the company doing a bad job. The government has no competition, so they can produce any result they like, and still stay in business.
Yes, there are no free markets, which is part of the problem.
Opinion, dude.
I think the housing market does need to be controlled.
There is no damn reason why there are shortages of shelters and orphanages when fuckers have 5 homes.
Also dude, are you telling me that you have a SELECTION of gas, electric, water, and other shit where you live?
Because as far as I know, that shit is already there.
Your ultilites are already an monopoly, just not government owned.
I know when I am about to purchase new property I always make sure someone else can use it; thatâs just human nature.
Azure
1594
When a small cabal of persons own all of the means of production, problems ensue.
i.e. poverty, homelessness, social unrest, and, ultimately, a government run by the small cabal in charge ordering the supression by force of violence against said poor, homeless, restless society.
This is the inevitable result of unfettered Capitalism.
Further, without STRICTLY socially enforced fetters, any society in which Capitalism is allowed to be practiced, inevitably becomes one of unfettered Capitalism.
Re: The U.S.A. today.
It just has not gotten to the point where the Army is killing civs, yet.
Sent from my thumbs, using SRK technology.
âWhen a small cabal of persons own all of the means of production, problems ensue.â
Unfettered Capitalism is communism!
An attribute of capitalism is the actual avenues of action a populous can take. Stop just taking it up the ass and saying âI must drink coke because I see all of these ads tell me toâ, and do the good you keep talking about â because youâre free to put your money where your mouth is.
Azure
1596
The opposite, actually.
It is an oligarchy.
Sent from my thumbs, using SRK technology.
An Oligarchy? Get serious. That is such weak, abstract, commonplace bullshit.
This is the sort of liberal logic I donât understand. If I have 5 houses, why it is my problem that people live in shelters or donât have homes? Honestly itâs not. Seems thatâs up to them to figure out, not me to figure out. I could give them one of my homes if I choose to, but really their shelter isnât really my obligation, itâs theirs. So because YOU feel I have more homes than I need, youâre going to get the mighty government to possibly take my home from me and give it to some poor unfortunate soul. A soul who hasnât earned the money I have to have the house, but still somehow (according to liberals) should have a house anyway. So basically whatâs the point of having anything like a house, if the government basically controls the market? I canât have the house I want, but the house the government feels I should have, because the government knows what I want more than I do. Great logic there.
And as far as government inefficiency goes. Again, you forget itâs a government of men. The state has capital and a budget that itâs expected to redistribute to society. What is to stop the government from just keeping the money for themselves, and redistributing less? Nothing. Remember the government canât go out of business, so if they do a bad job, who is really there to stop them? Do you think the men of the government feel they have a moral obligation to help society? No. They feel they have an obligation to help themselves, which is what they do. The whole system has holes in it, and the dynamic of someone having a better service than the government doesnât exist, because the government controls ALL means of production. Sorry, if you want to be a sitting duck, go right ahead. But understand some people donât want to quite bend over and let the government anal rape them.
Itâs not a monopoly at all. You stop paying the gas company, they go out of business. Plain and simple. One may argue that we need gas, hence weâll keep paying the gas company. But the reality is, theyâre a company must survive based on sustained profit. When they donât make one, they go out of business. Very different than the government which basically canât go out of business. It can go bankrupt, but never really cease to exist unless it is taken down.
And you have choices anyway, a lot of places have more than one gas company, and/or water company. And the utility company probably doesnât exist in a separate county, or the next state. So really to avoid their service all you have to do is move. If enough people moved out of that area, guess what happens to the utility company? So there is competition amongst utility companies, though itâs not as open as something like the food industry
Who was talking about Communism?
Communism doesnât work, we know this.
Weâre talking about Socialism.
A kind of economy where capitalism exists, just not in every market of the economy.
Socialism isnât going to stop you from drinking Coke or Pepsi, itâs just gonna give the poor bastard next to you some water.
Azure
1600
reads generic attack on his post
dismisses it
Come at me with something approaching a reasoned argument.
Sent from my thumbs, using SRK technology.
