Er… AC is the best. Not saying much as Eddie makes the game just a fucking bore to watch. Every time I see an Eddie or Pot win it’s just by looping 50-80% bar from unblockables.
Slash was probably better if you’d balanced Sol/Ky. It didn’t see a lot of play as it was out less than a year or so before AC came out.
Really only changes needed to be making Ky’s slash fireball be so retarded (corner lockdown from just fireball spam is stupid) and very small dmg scaling. Sol’s uppercut dealt like a flat 20%+ or something stupid before proration. Really most of the cast besides robo and Millia were pretty balanced as they were just utter ass. Also most of the normally trash characters were viable. Hell Chip was considered top tier at first glance by many, and Anji settled down as 3rd or something in the final tier list.
Because obviously the handful of times you’ve seen me play at tournaments encompasses the whole amount of time I’ve spent playing games.
Don’t get your panties in a bunch over semantic bullshit. I’ve admitted I’ve NEVER played GG at a high level, a tournament level, a medium level, a casual level, a basic level, or any level you want to name.
I don’t know shit about any deep level of GG. I’ve never said otherwise.
But I don’t need to play a game at a tournament level to know what I like, and what I find fun. And in MY experience, I’ve never had even 10% of the fun with Accent Core as I have with the older GG games.
FUN, which is completely subjective. Doesn’t mean people should stop playing Accent Core, or that AC isn’t a better tournament game.
It’s hard to know whether or not you’d have fun playing a game when you don’t really play it. We can bust out any of the older GGs you think were more fun at the next tourney and I’ll show you just how “fun” they can be. It has nothing to do with semantics. You think AC is less fun based on the level you play at, but you really do not play it at any significant level, so how can you make any kind of meaningful judgement?
hey relax man, i’m just saying my opinion. That the characters do too much damage too easily making the game frustrating for people who don’t mash out FB’s and try to think when they play. lol, footsies? lemme see you play footsies vrs jam’s fb test 6k eddies andthing (i could go on and on) there are no footsies in this game. Just mashing FB’s and high priority attacks.
Geeze your probably that same guy who I got into an arguement with when ac first came out talking about Jam didn’t just do a 70% combo off a random FB. “Its bad youtube quality” lol. gtfo. Can you really say that there is a character in AC that doesn’t have a relatively simple 70% combo compared to the other versions? Also I’m not saying the game is imbalanced (which i think it is) but just not fun for me. If you like it, play that shit, but me, I’m a SC4 player now.
p.s. I’d still roll you in ac if i got a chance to play you.
its more like reactions, think as in a martial art fight, you can have a battle plan, but you arent thinking, if he throw a jab im gonna dodge and then im gonna hit him with an upper, you react according to the situation and take advantage of his mistake, thinking and a battle plan are quite different
But it all comes into it. Instinct, ‘reaction’ and thought…you need them all. Thought is the most important, but too much is never good; that’s why you have instinct/reactions to lessen the thought load.
Relying on instinct makes you play too predictably, it’s hard to change instinct. However thinking too much can get you to lose track of what’s actually going on screen.
You need knowledge, good reactions, and a good spacial awareness for FG’s, especially GG since we know how funny hitboxes and throws/airthrows can be.
Do you remember when all of SRK called you out for being a guy who hides behind the internet and never plays in tournaments?
Let’s see how long you can “not overgeneralize” AC when you actually play it against good players. Oh wait you never will because it’s not online.
You aren’t good enough to know if I’m overgeneralizing or not. Simple as that.
ChaoticBlue:
Actually I was the guy who argued the big damage wasn’t that big a problem at first LOL. To be fair, when the game first came out it wasn’t THAT big a deal imo; it was still a 3-4 combo game for the most part back then. Just combos got a hell of a lot crazier since then, welcome to 1-2 combo gg no re GGAC. Oh well, guess I ended up being wrong in the end.
Hellmonkey:
Maybe you’d have a point if you hadn’t switched to Eddie ;(
I still contend that, once people start doing good combos and stop dropping them, the game gets a lot more stupid; and I find it hard to believe that people would use MAY as an argument against that, when May is easily the worst offender outside of the top tier. I fail to see how a character who has always hovered around top tier OCVing a team that is 2/3 not-so-hot tier is an argument for balance. Maybe that’s just me, though!
What I do think AC balances out is player skill stratification. Once you get beyond that initial threshold of learning how to block decently well, and not jump back -> airdashing all day, the game gets blown wide open. It’s not really a case of scrubs beating good players all day or even better players not winning consistently. But it sure does feel more balanced when you know that you are always one CH away from beating even Ogawa or whoever. You might never land that CH but you know it’s there!
No one is perfect…everyone gets hit. The mixed results of all the GGAC tournies in Japan support this. As far as I know, and my Japanese reading friend knows, no player or even character has won two major tournies in Japan.
One could argue that this is due to balance, and sure, balance plays a part in that, but I would like to think that some player is a bit superior to others and would possibly win 2-3 tournaments at some point. I just don’t think AC will legitimately allow that with the insane damage capabilities of the cast. Get that hit and the round is heavily in your favor, and that takes away from the overall skill level in my opinion.
As for Slash…everyone talks about how horrible it was with Ky and Sol, yet I never remember those two winning anything big. In fact, wasn’t KA2 the Jam player pretty much regarded as the best player, even when that was Jam’s worst incarnation when compared to #R and AC? Go back and watch his matches in SBO, it’s really quite awesome and entertaining. Don’t know if he ever ended up winning any other tournies, but Slash didn’t get that long of a lifespan to give many chances.
On Topic…
AC is balanced, full of a great portion of BS but it’s balanced and I enjoy playing it. It’s quite fun actually! So buy AC, especially since it has a US release now! I voted for AC!
Um no. I’m probably not good enough execution-wise with the combos and FRCs, mainly due to lack of practice. That doesn’t mean shit when it comes to understanding the game. Point is, pretty much every post I see from you talking about GG, has been a huge oversimplification of the game and this kind of oversimplified treatment of the game is a mistake many americans make and one of the reasons why they get slaughtered against the Japanese. Many think that bruteforce abuse of the game (in this case, overabusing the stuff you talk about) is enough to beat intelligent gameplay.
Not sure what you consider to be major, but Ogawa won SBO and I doubt he hasn’t won some other tournament as well.
Edit: What is this stuff about “mashing forcebreaks” being such a dominating strategy? Never seen it in high level play, not even with Jam.
