The best Guilty Gear version?

[MAGUS1234]

XX was godlike, the rest, not so much

[Hellmonkey]

Or you fight against Eddie and eat gold burst with any character in the game.

Accent Core is a stupid game that can be fun for a bit, but there’s not really any substance. I like it for what it is (high damage, 80% execution, 10% mindgames, 10% luck) and it’s been my main game since nobody plays Slash or #R in tournaments anymore, but there isn’t a lasting appeal. Game is super mechanical, don’t know why people are saying more damage = more mindgames when most matches aren’t decided by who’s smarter but by who happened to push their button a frame too early or too late.

If you’re playing at a level where people drop combos or are doing day 2 B&Bs for like 30-40% damage all the time, then I guess the appeal can last longer since it seems like there’s more ways to go into whatever lame day 2 B&B you’re doing, but once you get into it, the game tends to boil down to “spam your invincible safe launcher to fish for a CH and instantly win if you land it.”

I honestly don’t think the game is as balanced as people make it sound. If anything, it’s way worse than anything since #R imo. Just nobody has the mental strength or luck or whatever to post consistent, dominant results.

Hahahaha you must be awful, you are so wrong about every point. If everyone played like certain American players that focus 100% on offense you would be slightly more accurate, but the game at top level is way beyond that. I’m sorry that you actually believe that is all to AC.

Anyone that calls any other GG version more balanced than AC doesn’t understand the game with any sort of depth.

[D-Proto]

im agree, XX#reload felt more balanced, and better.
When i play AC…i feel like, somehow it lost he’s magic i can’t explain it…
the game feels artificial as hell, like more mechanical and less mindgame.

[Chaotic_Blue]

I’ve said this since day one. GG AC takes the majority of the creativity the player has with their character (in my experience and i can play half the cast) and throws it away because doing the very simple B&B are much more effective than making up combos. I mean atleast make the damaging combos hard. And the thing is you have to be much much MUCH better than your opponent to be able to beat them without getting touched and even the best get hit by something random. Before you could have a solid mind game and just be better than your opponent and win. But since everyone does 60%+ damage on random hits, you can very easily lose to an inferior player. LoL at people complaining about slash ky when eddie does 60%+ if you block little eddie and 100% on CH eddie hand which has invincible frames now and takes like ~20% eddie gage… cause he needed that. slash ky was much worse. Its too bad though, I really like Guilty Gear before.

Chaotic Blue

[HellSap]

Who “made up combos” in GG? Theres a ton of stuff that makes it more freestyle in AC. Yeah, FBs are setups, but tons of characters have a lot of stuff that can lead into loops or different things depending on the situation. There was always an OPTIMAL combo, but just because you werent doing the optimal thing back then doesnt mean its a more balanced game.
There were hella less gattlings in #R, which sucks. Its not like theres many links, but just because you had to RC everything doesnt mean its very original, its just a waste in this. This one feels like you have to deal with meter to start something deadly, where before it was used to extend combos slightly…

[D-Proto]

There were hella less gattlings in #R, which sucks.

oh man, you never played #R back in the day…

[Aion]

Hahahaha you must be awful, you are so wrong about every point. If everyone played like certain American players that focus 100% on offense you would be slightly more accurate, but the game at top level is way beyond that. I’m sorry that you actually believe that is all to AC.

Anyone that calls any other GG version more balanced than AC doesn’t understand the game with any sort of depth.

Thank you for saying this. I edited my post because I thought I was the only one who thought I was reading nonsense.

[Doc_Holaday]

Roload was a better game. AC is okay. I wish Slash was an option to vote for cuz that was better then both…

[Hecatom]

That is very strange. I wonder why this is.

On the AC hate: different strokes for different folks. I like every game in the XX series, hell, Isuka was fun as well. The B&Bs are just more of an integral part of character’s games instead of single moves like Slash/#R. AC offers a great deal of different playstyles within the characters though. Say, Nerina doesn’t play like Hellmonkey doesn’t play like Latif doesn’t play like Ogawa. The only characters I could conceivably see playing pretty much the same from player to player are Potemkin and maybe May. Again, it’s all perception really; I honestly see no more or less combo stupidity in AC than in Slash or #R, the beat counter is just higher in AC.

Hecatom, how the flying dogfuck do you say AC is canned combo shit and play Hokuto no Ken? Seriously man, that is the absolute weirdest shit I’ve ever heard ever. Even with the new game balance, HnK is more pants on head retarded when it comes to what turns you off of AC than AC is.

…Seriously now.

i was talking about the fun factor man, im not saying that i hate ac either, i love gg over all the other fg, but somehow this days i feel more excited of playing hnk, its just that i feel more variety in game style in hnk compared to ac (im talking about the people i play against of course, i know that hnk is more limmited in the combos compared to ac), the people who play gg here in my country are becoming lazy and play very alike (canned combos everywhere) compared on how they played in slash or #reload, only the hardcore players like me and my friends try to play more out of the mold wich is somehow sad :shake:, maybe i didnt explain myself well :wgrin:, the other thing is that there arent many high level players in gg, and in hnk, well we cant compare ourselfs to the high level of japan yet so you can guess that there are more people to play, because many people dont want to play if they know that you are better than them in the game (wich is what happens to me a lot in ac compared to hnk)

[KayinNasaki]

AC made me a Super Turbo player. True story.

It really is fun factor though. Even if AC is the best Balanced or whatever and isn’t as simple as the Austin crew has made it out to be, I just don’t have as much fun with it.

[KMD]

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Point taken. I dunno if that fun factor will hold up too tough when you and your crew level up in Hokuto though. This sounds more like a comp problem than a game problem, so I see where you’re coming from.

AC made me a Super Turbo player. True story.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

[KayinNasaki]

Point taken. I dunno if that fun factor will hold up too tough when you and your crew level up in Hokuto though. This sounds more like a comp problem than a game problem, so I see where you’re coming from.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

Certainly not, ST is awesomesauce. Though I don’t think most GG player progress this way.

[Hecatom]

Point taken. I dunno if that fun factor will hold up too tough when you and your crew level up in Hokuto though. This sounds more like a comp problem than a game problem, so I see where you’re coming from.

maybe, still there are some things that i dont like too much of ac but it cant be helped, even with that little things ac is one of the best fg on the market is balanced enough, and its xtremly fun to play.
what do you mean with “so I see where you’re coming from”?

[orochizoolander]

Dust strikers>all.

[Return_of_Shiki]

My gripe isnt with the fact that there are canned combos. The canned combos bring more accessibility to the game, as anyone can come in and do an axl bomber loop and people have been doing some combos from day 1 of AC. But my gripe is that the game seems to have been balanced (and designed) with the canned combos in mind with no thought given to the fact that there might be some other combos out there. Most force breaks added to accent core basically are combo setups, or assistance in getting into canned combos. move properties were changed to make it easier to get into canned combos, specifically. look at anji for example, who can now get into his canned combo, k s h, 236h, d, crap to 623H. That is his obvious canned combo, and previously 5H to 236H would not combo but was made to combo specifically just for accent core JUST SO he could get into this canned combo. another example is Jams forcebreak puffball (236S,D) is wallstick and combos from everything on the planet specifically so she can land her canned 2h, 6h garbage loop that she was given.

anyway, accent core kind of sucks. its fun for what it is, but it definitely isnt the same as older GG games. AC moves closer to having boring canned combos and even canned mixups. One of the fun things about older GG games is that some characters could be played any number of ways. With each new incarnation of GG you see more and more characters being pushed into certain roles and having players be required to play them a certain way to play them effectively. its gay

Thank you, thank you…

I never played GG at a high level, so I never understood why Accent Core was so much less fun for me than GGXX and you just explained it to me perfectly.

[Spirit_Juice]

zzz new game plz

[MAGUS1234]

AC used the kitchen sink method to making a game.
who gives a fuck about gg, play sfIV

[Hecatom]

AC used the kitchen sink method to making a game.
who gives a fuck about gg, play sfIV

sf4 sucks, and you dare to say that ac used the kitchen method when sf4 its sf2 with hideous 3d models, seriously go play strip fighter 4 instead its better

[Blake_White]

Thank you, thank you…

I never played GG at a high level, so I never understood why Accent Core was so much less fun for me than GGXX and you just explained it to me perfectly.

How can you legitimately say this when I’ve never seen you play this game even on a BASIC level?

Plus the whole “canned combos” argument is pretty silly anyway.

[Jonathan_Ingram]

man, thats exactly what i feel about ac, i feel that in #reload the people were more creative because the game was in someway better, but now they make the game so simple that everyone is doing the same shit, again and again, because they are forcing you to play with a char in a specific way, and its more easy to make the canned combos instead being more creative because they are easy to do

Because fancy combos make or break a fighter, right?