Bacon? Please don’t tell me this is another player-made nick for a character who’s name people are too lazy to say…I can understand a nick for Hwoarang (don’t know why they don’t say “Hwo” or “Rang” instead of “Bob”, though), but if “Bacon” is Baiken (easy as hell to pronounce: “Bikin”, as in “I’m goin’ bikin’ with my friends”), then people are just too damn sorry these days.
lol Bacon is a joke name… i don’t think anyone says it because Baiken is hard to pronounce.
I play Axl, nothing he has to start combos with is invincible… lol.
As far as high damage vs smart play, put it like this… would you put more thought into a fist fight, where a wrong move meant you meant get a black eye… or a sword fight where a wrong move meant you die.
I’m not gonna act like I know the game better than you, because I know that isn’t true, but I don’t see where being able to do a lot of damage detracts from playing with your head, and not just your hands.
The way that Potemkin says…
potemkIN… BUUSTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!! (REVERB~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~))))))~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
makes AC the best version ever.
i dont know, in #reload i have a win reatio of 5/5 of chipp against zato, compared to ac where is like 3/7 , of course, chipp is really nerfed in ac :sad:, thats why i moved to testament again
agreed, the first time that i heard it i got excited (in a non sexual way >.>)
because most of her combos are hard to do for noobs and she’s completely different from how she’s played in X2 , #r, and slash.
personally, I really liked X2, but to pick just one version of GG is too much to ask, IMO. every game had it’s ups and downs. most who hated #reload because they liked a certain character but they suxed (Dizzy, Robo), or because Eddie was so broken. while there was also the infamous dust loop from Sol. I got Slash but never played it since I never got a modded ps2 so, yea. from what I saw, slash was a good game, but Order Sol suxed unless your name was Kaqn.
AC is probably the better pick out of all of the games made due to gameplay, added xtra “blue cancels” aka FRCs, force breaks, and somewhat of a balanced game. AC has so much shyt in that you have to mind your p’s and q’s or eat combo, my favorite, sidewinder loopn. instead of death by dust loop you basicly get yo ass beat with other shyt. but yea, fuck Slayer. 3 hits and your almost dead.
but really there’s no such thing as a completely balanced GG game. only way that would be possible is to ban Eddie and maybe along with Pot-Roast.
oh yea, my Negro Sol is better than your Sol, lol.
If you have no one to play with your probably best of with reload since it has an online community.
I don’t think Slayer is that powerful… well… I do play with Potemkin… lol.
I just gives me smiles when I’m blocking my friends’ combo strings and I hit them with a Potemkin Buster. Oh the screams and shouts that come after it! It makes me so happy!
I used to play with Ky on guilty gear 1, then switched to Chipp on 2 up to reload. Then I didn’t play the game for about 2 years and really got into wrestling characters in other games, so I tried out Potemkin and really liked him. Isn’t it great when you really like a character and then he just so happens to be top tier? Yay!
I’m pretty sure if you were in a sword fight to the death, you wouldn’t live very long if you spent your time thinking a lot. One wrong move = death is a situation where you’d best hope your instincts/reactions have been trained properly.
i wholly agree with this, the game got less fun the better i got at it. its less forgiving than super turbo and if you’re at the level where people are hitting you with big combos then burst suddenly becomes basically useless as well
my main beef with AC is that its mostly canned combos, eg mays 5s, 5h, dolphin upper loops, badlands loops, sidewinder loops, axl bomber loops etc, and that once people found combos outside of the canned combos its like the game wasnt expecting them and they were just too fucking good. also, as i say every time this subject comes up, slash had finally balanced out eddie to a point where he was good and not too retarded. then they did a complete character redesign and threw all that shit out of the window and made him incredible in a totally different way D:
Everyone should just play Samurai Spirits 0sp.
could you tell me examples for non-canned combos? this is interesting.
its not really that interesting but OK
slayers canned combo is BBU (or any launch) into j.k, j.2k, k, jc j.k, j.2k, j.d, j.2k, j.d or some variation on that. but his other combos are just plain way too damaging, and involve spamming as many 5H’s in the combo as possible and doing IAD j.k, j.k, and j.k, j.h. I’m not saying these are super incredible combos or something, but all I’m saying is that they ARENT the canned combos he was intended to have, and they do a lot more damage than the canned alternative.
All of the characters in the game have obviously “created” combos that were made for them. I’m not talking about shit like rekka punches, I’m talking about full-out combos that were created by the designers/developers/whoever. May is supposed to do command grab, s, h, dolphin upper, s h, dolphin upper, 2p/5p dolphin upper. This is the combo that was created for her (dolphin upper loop). You can do much more damage using 6H, dolphin upper, into more complicated combos from her grab. Sols created combo is the sidewinder loop. He can do 2D, bandit revolver, RC, crap to sidewinder, into sidewinder loops which can go like j.s, sidewinder, land, rejump, j.s sidewinder, land, crap to bandit revolver. Of course, he has a more damaging alternate with repeated sidewinders in the air which are difficult to chain properly and require more execution, the same as the slayer and may combos listed above.
My gripe isnt with the fact that there are canned combos. The canned combos bring more accessibility to the game, as anyone can come in and do an axl bomber loop and people have been doing some combos from day 1 of AC. But my gripe is that the game seems to have been balanced (and designed) with the canned combos in mind with no thought given to the fact that there might be some other combos out there. Most force breaks added to accent core basically are combo setups, or assistance in getting into canned combos. move properties were changed to make it easier to get into canned combos, specifically. look at anji for example, who can now get into his canned combo, k s h, 236h, d, crap to 623H. That is his obvious canned combo, and previously 5H to 236H would not combo but was made to combo specifically just for accent core JUST SO he could get into this canned combo. another example is Jams forcebreak puffball (236S,D) is wallstick and combos from everything on the planet specifically so she can land her canned 2h, 6h garbage loop that she was given.
anyway, accent core kind of sucks. its fun for what it is, but it definitely isnt the same as older GG games. AC moves closer to having boring canned combos and even canned mixups. One of the fun things about older GG games is that some characters could be played any number of ways. With each new incarnation of GG you see more and more characters being pushed into certain roles and having players be required to play them a certain way to play them effectively. its gay
thx, i see
I watched a lot of AC videos, mainly SBO videos, but I have never played it.
I did a quick look over the topic and at a glance everyone who joined this site 07 and up said Accent Core and everyone who 03 or lower said #R (or did not favor AC).
Odd. Anyway. I prefer #R.
Edit: Nevermind.
True that.
Seems like the top 5 characters can easily do 90 - 100% damage with a counter hit gold burst.
Dude, no. Slash Ky and Sol were the most merciful top tier in GG history. The only problem was they were ez-mode so they mostly pissed off mid level players who got beat by people less good then them. They were no doubt hella good, but I’d play Slash Ky long before I played any other top tier character in GG history.
Even if the difference between Robo and Ky was that great, the amount of truly competitive characters was much hire in AC and the top tier was much less of a distance away form the mid tier. I’d rather a few characters be garbage than a few characters be way too good.
God, I want to headbutt everyone who says “Slash Eddie was garbage”. God forbid he isn’t hella fucking stupid and totally playable. It’ like people WANT Eddie to be broken.
Anyways I’m glad to finally hear some AC hate. I feel less bad about not really caring about it much anymore.
man, thats exactly what i feel about ac, i feel that in #reload the people were more creative because the game was in someway better, but now they make the game so simple that everyone is doing the same shit, again and again, because they are forcing you to play with a char in a specific way, and its more easy to make the canned combos instead being more creative because they are easy to do, and the reward its acceptable, yes ac is fun, but i feel that they ruined the game in some way, i love gg and i play it every day since the begining of the franchise, but for some reason i dont feel the same passion as before, i preffer to spend more time in hnk, hoping that bb doesnt turn like ac
This is not true btw, but hop on the bandwagon if you wish.
That is very strange. I wonder why this is.
On the AC hate: different strokes for different folks. I like every game in the XX series, hell, Isuka was fun as well. The B&Bs are just more of an integral part of character’s games instead of single moves like Slash/#R. AC offers a great deal of different playstyles within the characters though. Say, Nerina doesn’t play like Hellmonkey doesn’t play like Latif doesn’t play like Ogawa. The only characters I could conceivably see playing pretty much the same from player to player are Potemkin and maybe May. Again, it’s all perception really; I honestly see no more or less combo stupidity in AC than in Slash or #R, the beat counter is just higher in AC.
Hecatom, how the flying dogfuck do you say AC is canned combo shit and play Hokuto no Ken? Seriously man, that is the absolute weirdest shit I’ve ever heard ever. Even with the new game balance, HnK is more pants on head retarded when it comes to what turns you off of AC than AC is.
…Seriously now.