So I’ve been looking around for the answer to this question for a while, but can’t seem to find anything decisive. If it’s already been posted I apologize ( i’m sure it has, just can’t seem to find it)
I’ve used a controller my entire life, I had never played Street fighter in an arcade until SF4, and when I did, well that was an experience.
So very recently, I picked up the TE SSF4 stick that just came out. I’ve gotten to the point where I can do most moves with a good amount of consistency. But regardless of how good I’m getting with it, it just doesn’t feel as comfortable as the controller to me.
It’s not the buttons, it’s the Stick itself. I like the buttons on the TE stick, they feel nice and having them all right there is a great feeling, but the stick just doesn’t feel as good to me as the dpas on my PS3 controller.
So all of that leads me to my question. Is there a real benefit to using a stick VS a controller? Is it possible to be tournament viable with a controller at all ? Or should I just suck it up and “Stick” with it?
im in the exact same situation
i do know the advantages of using stick and pad i just want to know if former pad players that converted ever feel as completely comfortable using stick as they did pad
“Tournament Viable”… sort of. There are instances of pad players placing high at major tournaments. But many of those eventually transfer over to sticks.
As to why sticks are better than pads… the answer is that your wrist+arms+fingers are much more dextrous than your thumbs. Getting comfortable takes a while, but the overwhelming majority of players achieve a technical competency on an arcade stick far greater than what they could on a pad.
SF4 is the first game I’ve ever used a stick for, and I’m never going back.
Both have their pro’s and con’s. A stick’s con can mainly be for adjustment after being on a pad for so long; so, not many con’s there.
I only played on a stick at a friends house, so I’m a primary pad player. I do find it easier to pull off certain moves on a stick, though. Like, playing Guile (In HD Remix) is a lot easier on a stick than on a pad, because it eliminates blisters, which I get from a standard pad; and overall, a stick is better for overall control, in my opinion. I think you should stick with it and practice more; don’t give it up so quickly.
I understand that the wrist is more dextrous than the thumb, but it seems to be I can do everything directional wise just fine with the thumb, my biggest problem was only ever doing links and not being able to plink on a controller very effectively was what originally got me to move to a stick in the first place. Is there some kind of fatty Pad+Arcade hybrid ? LOL Like a big ole arcade stick with the buttons but on the left has a grippable dpad ?
I started playing SF4 on a MadCatz fightpad. Then I bought a Marvel TE stick for my 20th birthday and never looked back.
Things that got easier for me were stuff like super jumping, links, moves like Air Tatsu, anything that required a quick move from one side of the stick to the other I could do with more consistency. I think I even got smarter by playing on it. Plus there’s enough resources out there for you to customize your stick and make it your own - artwork, button mods, stick mods, etc.
That’s not to say pad players aren’t legit (see: SmoothViper and Shizza as examples) but if you’re willing to practice with it, and have the money, try playing stick.
Take it from me. I’m the only stick player in Florence. XD
If you honestly don’t like the stick. I suggest you atleast pick up the Madcatz fightpad. I bought one just cos they were dirt cheap and before using this I hadn’t played on pad. And suprisingly I was able to do quite a few combos on it easily without much practise. They are really comfortable and having all 6 buttons there is always a plus.
stick > pad in all things regarding execution in fighting games.
anyone that would argue anything else has no idea how to use a stick.
or is a complete scrub.
possible exception/exemption for 3d games (non-sf)
The Fightpad is severely underrated. I just hate how easy it breaks, then again, that’s MadCatz for you.
If you need alternatives to that, they would be the Hori FC3 pad for PS3 (which is wired and therefore less of a hassle at tournaments) and the EX2 Pad for Xbox 360. And if you’re really lucky you can snag a Sega Saturn pad for PS2 - the real one, but it’s rare and expensive as hell nowadays.
eh…follow your own instincts rather than following the crowd. if you prefer using a pad. i would stick with it.
There is a small number of people that use a pad and are actually good with it but, generally speaking you’re much much better off on a stick
I actually have a fight pad, but it’s got this wierd problem where a direction will stick. Which really causes me problems when I let go of the dpad and continue to walk forward. Also, i was just holding it like a regular controller, are you supposed to do the buttons on a fight pad like you would on a stick ?
You most likely have a faulty controller because that doesn’t happen with mine or anyone elses I’ve seen and honestly the Dpad on that thing is amazing. And you hold it like a regular pad (or however you want really it doesn’t matter honestly as long as your comfortable)
Oh and what blinky said about not being able to do super jumps and whatnot that may be the case for him but not everyone. I can do super jump cancels etc fine on pad. In fact I can land most of C.Vipers combos more consistently on pad than stick and I’ve been playing stick for ages.
A problem with playing on a pad is that you need to be comfortable playing on different types of pad or you might be screwed when you show up to a tournament and aren’t familiar with the controller of the console the game is being played on. With a stick this isn’t a problem, as your stick skills will carry over to any console you play on.
Neber
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SF4 has rather lenient motions on purpose so pad players can play and even keyboard:O. But with pad can you do mk hands, pianoing input, i don’t play pad(i have played on ps3 controller i assume pad is like 10^10 times better) but if experienced pad players can’t do that on a 100/99% level then there’s something deficient with the pad imo.
All you need to know is the facts, the joystick on why arcade sticks are awesome. The joystick springs back to neutral really well, and you just are much more in controll than a controller. Big buttons makes it good to do throw/FA and Triple K/P moves, SF4 is catered to many styles with pads being one of them, and in serious play of course sticks are the universal thing. Everything has a learning curve, the stick will take a while to get use to, and then a long while to improve your execution so you can do anything just by knowing the inputs of a complex combo/move.
The question is how does the stick on pads compare to ps3 stock standard controller?
the top reason for me is arcade sticks have been aracade sticks since the beggining of gaming. Controllers are always going to be changing and fucking around, so the real advantage imo is that you can get comfortable with an arcade stick and not have to worry about it changing the next console generation.
Also pads suck.
fightpads are nice for charge characters, that is true.
I just wanted to chime in here. First of all I used to play SF II on an old beat up SNES back in the day. Once I moved to the PSX i continued using the pad, I was even beating my partners who’d use their sticks. Most folks that I know use the sticks to replicate the arcade “feel”. Trying to crossover after playing with a pad has somewhat of a learning curve attached and most get frustrated and return to the pad. I think its a matter of personal preference and skill. I know a kid who plays with 'gief that is a beast with a pad. He claims the pad allows him to hit those 360 and 720 motions easier. In SF IV, I have noticed the game is more forgiving and it seems that using a stick can be easier than with other games (like VF5). So in the end its just about what you feel comfy with, but remember a pad is a pad; and a stick is most definitely a weapon.–peace, love, and soul!! GD357
Cryoh
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Learn stick so you don’t go “oh, shit” when you have to play on the 360 or in the arcade.
This talk about having different pads on consoles isn’t really an issue if you use a Madcatz fightpad. And buying two of those for each console would be cheaper than buying a decent stick for one console. To me that just seems like a pointless argument. The arcade yeah I guess so but do you actually play in the arcade? Are you ever going to seriously? Don’t use a stick just because everybody uses one and says it’s better. Use what feels comfortable to you. As long as you put in the practise there aren’t going to be many benefits of having a stick instead of a pad.
