She had a big role in No Man’s Land, and some recent Teen Titans story had her as head of the Assassin’s League. Her origin story with the badass daddy would be a good find as well, though sadly I don’t know the name of it.
Also, the chick who played Laura Ingalls Wilder was the original voice of Batgirl in her first few appearances in The Animated Series.
I keep forgetting to mention this here so this is a few weeks old but this interview with Morrison about Batman is really awesome. He’s the first one to say, that I know of anyway that Batman has been Batman for 15 years. Since like forever, I’ve been hearing from DC that’s he’s been Batman for 10 years. Morrison wants to make it so the majority of Batman comic book stories you’ve read over the years still occur in his timeline one way or another despite all the Crisis style retcons. Morrison rules! :woot:
Morrison does indeed rule, I need to get his Batman run so bad. Lately I’ve been on a GL binge, and anything galatic wise in DC.
Where does exactly Morrison run starts i mean in what issue 633???
The first part of his run begins in the Batman and Son HC. The paperback should be coming out in a matter of months if you wanna save some money.
Don’t touch Morrison’s run on Batman. It’s terrible.
I enjoy it for what he’s trying to do, but it isn’t the real Morrison on LSD currently found in All Star Superman. 
Of course, that’s because it’s Batman, and mainstream Earth 52 Batman at that. Apathy-Inc said it best that for Batman to sneeze like five editors have to sign off on it. Shrug, I’m just happy that someone stopped saying he’s only been Batman for 10 years. It in turn would make the DCU fifteen years (15 years ago was Batman Year One, Superman arrived in Metropolis, etc) instead of 10. Older heroes from the JSA aside of course. I mean he’s gone through four Robins already (even though DC doesn’t like to regard Spoiler as a Robin nowadays, but IMHO she was) so an extra five years is a better fit. 20 years would even be a better fit but I guess they don’t want a 40 year old Batman. 
I have every expectation that the final arc might shut me up again, and that I’ll inevitably end up flip flopping and proclaiming this to be the greatest Batman story ever told, and lamenting at the state of society for being so pedestrian and low brow by being unable to appreciate the subtleties of this run…
…but man, as it stands, the individual stories have been fairly week, and generally the entire thing has been really incoherent. I don’t know if the final RIP arc is going to somehow retroactively go back and awesome-up everything…but this has definitely not been a good run on Batman.
After reading through the interview, I think it’s pretty neat that Morrison’s trying to do all this stuff with the continuity and “change Batman forever” again, but maybe I’m just not that interested in the whole weight of continuity in telling good comic book stories.
They kept swapping artists throughout this entire run, which is always a bad thing, and even the guys who were on were really inconsistent throughout. They hyped it up as a big run with Morrison and Kubert, and neither guy was at their best on this at all. The art has been weak throughout the entire run, no exceptions.
And some of the stuff Morrison’s doing…it’s got me scratching my head, amazed at how different of a writer he writes when he’s on LSD and when he’s not. Some of this stuff so far has been almost comically goofy for even him. His characterization of Bruce Wayne is a bit too over the top, this whole arc with the different Batmen is way too confusing and poorly paced…nothing here works for me. It reminds me of that whole JLA Unlimited arc with Ed McGuiness he did with Batman and his science fiction closet, with him in a Bat-UFO…but back then, it somehow seemed awesome yet still so outlandish…and it was like vintage “Oh, that Grant Morrison and his LSD! What a silly guy.” It’s like the same thing this time, only the whole bunch of ninja batmen was just kinda cheeseball instead of awesomely outlandish.
And that entire story with Damian…goddamn, what an annoying comic book character.
And that prose issue…it was probably the absolute worst non X-comic I’ve read in the last couple years. You can’t even call it a comic to start, and I understand there’s like that homage angle he was doing for that nod back to the days of when Denny O’Neil (?) or whoever did it…but it was a bad idea then, and it’s a bad idea now. I thought the entire appeal of the comic book medium was that it was like…a COMBINATION of writing and art.
The worst part was how bad the actual story in the prose issue was too. You had to put up with the fact that you paid full price for 22 pages of like 14 point font WORDS, and even then, it sucked. Lot of silly stuff in there…like the Joker tapping out something in morse code…I don’t know, just a ton of over the top, really cheeseball, amateur stuff. And that’s also how I feel about the entire run in general as well.
Just really completely uninteresting, and I’m hoping the RIP arc saves this whole thing, but even if it does…the run as a whole is just not worth getting into, in my snobby, long-winded opinion.
Yeah there’s truth in a lot of the things you say. That prose comic just got a “WTF is this I have to read a book?” and after I read it I forgot all about it. I think the idea was LSD based but not the execution…
Dont know about that i’ve read most of it and im realy enjoying the all “small parts that create the big picture” and the last three issues were downright amazing
My favorite was 666 just because he gives Dick Grayson a turn as Batman, even if he winds up killing him in the line of duty anyway. Ah well it’s better than Frank Miller turning Dick Grayson into the Joker in DKSA or the DCAU making him a bitter old man who doesn’t even speak to Bruce Wayne, I’ll take what I can get.
Wasnt it Damien as Batman in 666 anywayz my fav is 673
Yeah in the story Damian was Batman. Though in the issue they mentioned that Dick Grayson was the Batman before him. So in 666 it was Bruce Wayne who was Batman and then when he died, it moved to Dick Grayson and when he died Damian took over. Tim Drake didn’t get a turn in that reality so who knows what happened to him there, he was last shown grieving at OG Batman’s death. Tim does become a gun toting Batman in Teen Titans, but that’s probably a different reality, I think, I’m not sure if DC has multiple alternate reality futures like Marvel does or all of these things work together somehow…
… You WOULD care about that, wouldn’t you, bub?:looney:
I don’t think Morrison’s Batman is bad like Clinty says. I don’t really have any well-thought defense or counter to his arguments, though. I just look at Morrison’s Batman as it’s own sort of pocket universe. It’s a completely different approach to Batman and I probably just enjoy weirdass stuff just for the sake of being weirdass stuff. (As long as it’s not TOO weird and pretentious, and Batman hasn’t crossed the line yet.)
I think one thing that has really hurt Morrison’s run is the artwork. Not that I don’t like Andy Kubert (or was it Adam? I keep getting them confused) but I think his art just sets a different tone from what Morrison’s writing needs. It’s like having Jim Lee draw Frank Miller’s All-Star Batman. Kubert’s art lends itself to a serious tone and I don’t think Morrison’s Batman takes itself all that seriously. And then now we got Tony Daniel drawing, and I think his art’s horrible… Poor man’s '90s Image throwback.
The John Van Fleet issue was great, though. Anyone who doesn’t like it is probably a Canadian Asian who majored in computer engineering or something.
Did Morrison do the tale of the three different Batmen? That was a radical move and a cool read, I enjoyed those very much.
I hate every one of you.
Way I look at it, Morrison’s Batman is still in the upper tier of DC superhero books. That may affect my perception subconsciously. So it’s entirely possible that the DC books are so crappy that Morrison’s Batman looks godly by comparison, even though the reality may well be that Morrison’s Batman is below average.
I kinda doubt it, though. I’m pretty sure your hatred of us has tainted your view of Morrison’s Batman. A Jedi Master once said, “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.” That, bub, is the path to the Dark Side.
I think that Jedi Master was a bit senile, damn old people. I have had plenty of moments where Anger led me to stomping a fool in a game, or get me some action. so Anger leads to glory in some cases. Jedi are like Space Nuns, can’t do jack shit.
Anywho, Morrison isn’t bad when he goes all Morrison weird on us, but anything else looks meh to me.
Its all about giving one piece of the puzzle at a time son of damaien was like the first new batman than the second batman came than in the club of heroes arc it was the Black glove and than the third batman and in 674 it was hinted that the Black glove is orcherstrating the entire thing
all in the theme about batman is going to be replaced
Batman RIP gonna be helluva read
Found this in another forum and its priceless
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