China is actually cutting back the number of foreigners that they’re taking in. And some of the country wants to expel all foreigners. We taken their wimmen. >.<
Trump isn’t the worst you can get as long as Hillary is still running.
Saying maybe you guys deserve Hillary to see how bad things can get wouldn’t even be fair because the damage that Obama has done is beyond most Americans’ comprehension.
Most countries hate Obama and Hillary. Putin calls Obama a monkey and Hillary a snake. When Obama flew to China he was openly disrespected and told to gtfo (a fight even broke out).
Countries don’t respect the US and most hate the US. This isn’t Trump’s fault. This is Obama’s fault and Hillary is wearing the same shoes as Obama.
Many countries are exploiting the US, Mexico included, which will hopefully lessen with a Trump presidency. The corporations exploiting our country have bought out our media and are fighting against Trump. It’s sad to see that people still get their news from bought out media like CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, Huffington Post, etc.
Trump actually brought business to a lot of countries and both the people and the government not only like him but respect him.
No one likes Obama/Hillary. They are criminals on a global scale (if you want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes research Clinton Foundation relationship with Russian banks, among other countries).
I don’t want to call Obama a dictator/fascist, but when you have the president instead of running as president campaigning for the next president and calling Americans racist against blacks and women when many Americans voted for Obama only because he was black is just disgraceful.
I wish Americans/the US wasn’t one of the dumbest countries as far as mathematics goes, maybe then they would be able to comprehend what it means to be $19.3 trillion in debt (FY 2016 gross US federal government debt) which is under Obama.
While Obama is going to retire in style and relax, American citizens will get stuck with the $19.3 trillion bill, which is only continuing to increase.
The US is worse off than ever.
Once countries realize how broke the US is, they will stop using the dollar, it will lose its value, and the US will collapse. Revolution will occur. The government knows this and is training its forces to fight against people dressed as normal American citizens.
Trump may not be a good guy, but Hillary and Obama are a terrifying disaster, covered up by the media which they own.
Anyways, soon humans’ destruction of the planet will be their own end. Enjoy your video games and existence while it lasts.
You my boy and all but you can’t be really thinking this. You are a really smart guy from what I can tell.
I actually do not like Hillary that much. Hillary may be a disaster but she is better than Trump. Trump uses his Trump foundation settle legal dispute. Proof is in the tax filings. How will he deal with our American Money? Treat it like anyone of his business with some of them offshore?
Donate to Clinton foundation and they revealed they are not shady and help dozens of people. The foundation is already been investigated and it is is clean and good. Look it up.
The Trump Foundation is donated from a couple millions(Vince) and the like and he uses it for his own gains with tax receipts to proved these cases. Uses it settle legal disputes and hell buy himself couple of portraits. This is donated money WTF. Hillary’s speech fees has nothing on this.
Yea Trump shady sort of business is resurfacing. Also he is scared to reveal his own tax return. Why NOT reveal them? What do he has to hide? Well they show up somewhat . It will be half figured out anyways.
Alot of trump merchandise is made overseas. Already taking away American jobs right there in our faces live. From a business perspective, it is actually quite smart just isn’t right for US presidency.
Countries will really not respect us if Trump get elected. There are polls that show massive disapproval of him overseas over Obama/Hillary. Essentially they think he is dumbass. Hell there is some youtube videos out there. I saw one where the UK parliament cause him very ignorant. At very least the other countries somewhat respect Obama/Hillary.
There is too much against Trump to vote for him in my opinion. This thread has been too Trump favored. Time for the haters to voice their opinions as well. Time to strike. Trump has done some great things for business yes but he is not presidential.
That kind of attitude is not good. We have to work with the world on certain issues whether you like it or not. Example. We don’t make many products in America. We import more than export. If for example China pulls the plug on us. US is screwed. The rest of the worlds does impact our lives but American are sometimes blind to this. That is a topic for another time that I agree on. It is just us and the world has no affect on us? Think about the products in your room and where they come from. That is just an example. But yes the president has to visit other countries in talk and work with them. It is massively important in order to stay in good relations.
Wew lad, that whole diatribe escalated quickly
just a few points because I don’t want to pick the whole thing apart just get my two cents in:
The US debt is a lot more manageable than it seems from a math standpoint, and theres only like one portion of the debt we cant default on and thats the portion that came from other countries. Last time I really looked into it we owed about 5 Trillion total to other countries. The federal government owes itself another 6 Trillion, so that can technically be defaulted on without global apocalyptic “GAS PRICES 300 DOLLARS A GALLON MARTIAL LAW TOMORROW FEMA DEATH CAMPS NEW WORLD ORDER” results, it would mean that our government would be stiffing itself and the American people would be footed with the bill for all the money our governments spent on all those snazzy aircraft carriers.
Finally, the rest of the money is owed TOOOOO:
The American People. Thats right, a few corporations who invested in the government to get special privileges, a bank here and there, and the bulk of it came from every single person walking on the street. They technically need to pay back the American people something like 10 Trillion dollars. They could default on us and never pay it back, since the moneys already been taken and spent via taxes so theres not much we can do about it aside from maybe suing the government which would just be paid off with tax dollars, starting a revolution and destabilizing the worlds only remaining super power and the backbone of the UN and NATO (probably a bad idea), or just roll over and give up on the hopes of getting our money back (most already have).
But like I said from a mathematical standpoint its not an insurmountable debt, but the current political establishment will never be able to pay it off. Ron Paul was like the only person on the establishment ticket in decades with an actual clear cut plan on how to begin to handle it and the MSM and Republican Party gave a big ol’ “fuck you” to him so RIP that route. (Ironically the policies they used to stonewall Paul cut a clear and open path from Trump to stonewall all the other GOP candidates this election LOL)
As for your whole “nuclear war end times soon” thing, if a nuclear war did occur it would probably be a minor exchange between smaller powers. The days of Russia, America, or China causing global annihilation are pretty much over. The big powers all wage war on a micro scale not a macro scale. A small nuclear conflict in the Middle East, or between India and Pakistan or India and China is the most likely route. That would send shock waves through the global community, and would have multiple environmental detriments, but don’t bank your money on a Mad Max or FallOut future anytime soon, or even ever at this point. Even if North Korea goes balls to the walls (which I don’t think it will, it will probably be experiencing regime change sometime in the near future and some variety of political revolution/restructuring via china) it wouldn’t incite a Global Thermonuclear war, but a costly isolated incident.
You also need to learn the difference between popular opinion and politicians’ opinions. UK politicians are farther left than even the Democratic Party, of course they hate Trump. But this is the same country that voted for Brexit, and you have a growing anti-immigrant sentiment brewing across Europe due to the migrant crisis.
Proof is in actions, not polls. Look at our relations with China, Russia, and the Middle East. How in the hell is Obama doing a good job there? This time 4 years ago, I would have considered myself a Democrat or at least a left-leaning independent. Looking at world events, and how badly the Democratic Party is running and turning out, I cannot support them. Obama hoped to improve life for minorities; after deporting more illegal immigrants than every president before him combined and leaving race relations in their worst state since the 60s, I would have to consider him a failure at that. He’s managed to roughly stabilize the economy, but if we keep at this rate the US will not remain a world power. If I had to actually rank him compared to other presidents, he’s only above the Roaring Twenties/pre-Civil War presidents who screwed over the country by incompetence and probably Nixon and W. Bush for not being a complete twit. But if all we can say about our commander-in-chief is “he’s not a complete twit”, that says a lot about how far America has fallen when we can’t produce strong leaders anymore.
Well in 4 years hopefully we get a strong leader. Neither Hillary or Trump will do that well in foreign relation but I wager they do better with Hillary.
Also what are your thoughts on the Trump Foundation? I see your criticism for Clinton but what about his. Also what about the unrevealing of Tax returns? I hardly see many Trump supporters talk about this. They seem to ignore it and blame the media.
if china pulls the plug on the US there’s going to be a second cultural revolution. china’s way more dependent on exports to the US than the US is on imports from china and their entire social contract is “yeah you’re getting completely fucked by the rich and powerful now but just bear with it and the money will trickle down eventually” and that’s been holding so far mostly because the poor in china started so low that even the little that they’ve gotten goes a long way, but the second that contract breaks you’re gonna see some real shit. everyone there knows it, that’s why the rich are slowly taking their stolen money and sneaking out to australia and canada and san francisco.
people overstate how bad the US’s position is. it’s not that we’re doing all that great, it’s that everyone else is doing way worse.
I don’t strongly care about the Trump Foundation because the worst thing he’s done with it is maybe buy influence from some dopey local politicians, something he’s already mentioned as a serious problem that he exploited on his way to the top. Lacking in tact, yes, but nothing surprising there. The Clinton Foundation was very active while Hillary was Secretary of State and is believed to have been involved in a massive bribery network that supports 3rd world dictators and promotes corporate agendas. WAY worse than the Trump Foundation.
Ironically the one thing the US DID do well was play its cards well enough to not be a total shit heap. We can afford a few more bad presidents at the rate we’re going if I’m going to be entirely honest, simply because the rest of the world is just as much a sociopolitical shitshow if not ten times that. Europe was looking pretty good for a while there but it quickly erupted into a fucking garbage fire that would make Nero himself red with envy. Russia is fucking Russia, was and always will be ‘doin its own thang’. Southeast Asia is constantly walking the line between drug cartel heaven and warscape. Australia is getting too mainstream these days, so I’m thinking New Zealand is looking pretty good right about now. Don’t even talk about Africa.
I see. People donated money to his foundation (lol Vince) and he used their money to buy his own self Portraits and pay legal dispute, and maybe some politicians. He hasn’t even donated to it since 2009. It is not even his money anymore. Suppose to be for charity. People will have quite negative reaction to this but I don’t think you see why.
people will be enraged at Trump and he will surge in the polls
thats been the pattern of this whole fucking election how it surprises people anymore I know not
I agree. He might even surge with this. People are stranger than fiction these days. Core issue is the American people at the end of the day. Not necessarily the candidates.