The Ameяican Government Thread

Trump rant time.

Maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger. Think of presidency under Trump regime. Trump has beaten Clinton on Election Day. Hooray.
Foreign countries think we are stupid and don’t want to even talk to this buffoon. They will judge us on this selection. Other presidents will laugh at Trump except Putin of course. How will he talk to Foreign countries? Rich will get richer. They will get even better loopholes since Trump has done so himself.

He will keep jobs overseas, hell some of his companies operate overseas. He is more likely to cause another war than Hillary. He will build a wall on Mexican borders that we will pay for which will probably raise taxes and put us in further debt. Eventually it be torn down by another president anyways. Also ban all muslims and deported illegal aliens which I am in maybe sort of agreement on maybe?

What I hate on Hillary end in the same old with no change. She lies and is deceitful. But it is has gotten so bad we might have to choose her and hold off till another good ones comes around. Mitt Romney shares this same opinion and I agree on this one. Chalk this one on us. We failed this election.

What proof do you jave that trump will start a war.

What facys exist?

Protectionism, tarrifs, and forced back taxes on companies that export labor to shit holes?

That he will force mexico to pay for a wall? The us already proved that thry can make mexico cave due to economic pressure back in the 70’s.

Tarrifs on Chinese products? Sandera was already implying that.

Hillary was the only one to publicly atate she will declare war, after her goons amd her asshole where righteously blown oit.

Pedoviejo my man you have really got to work on those typing skills of yours

No proof of war but just speculation which is best we can do for now. I have to at least speculate since we are dealing with this guy/girl for 4 years. Speculate now before the day we are stuck with them.

This isn’t the 70s, Mexico has way more economic problems than us. They won’t cave in for a wall they have no benefit from. As to why Mexico already has met with Trump and discussed this. Mexico does not want this but we apparently do.

And you perfectly articulated why Trump needs to win.

Second rate countries that treat their people like shit are under the mistaken impression we care what they think.

Caring what they think leads to Russia invading their neighbors and a5’1 dictators like Raul Castro neither fearing or respecting our President to even show up at the airport when he visits.

Bush was a horrendous drunkard piece of shit but if he flew down to Cuba, Castro would of hoped in the '51 Chevy and went to the airport because we all know Bush would turn that bitch in to a Golf course or not even gotten off the plane.

Schwarzenegger, like Trump is a response to people sick of liberals shit. Grey Davis had California on rolling black outs like a third world country and $300 car tabs. Arnie kept those lights on and dropped the tab fees ASAP.

I am sure Hillary isn’t in going to give the Rich loop holes like they did when they signed NAFTA and repealed Glass-steagall, Wall Street and all the tech Billionaires are just rigging media/metadata and giving her hundreds of millions of dollars out of the kindness of their heart.

Nato just doesnt like Trump cause Trump is like Theodore Roosevelt, and Trump wants to work on America more than other countries, and give more jobs, he doesnt care about giving other countries money, and Americans shouldnt, we are so far in debt, while all of nato has more money than America they still want us to keep giving and giving them money.

Its not like if we stop giving other countries they are going to go completely broke, these countries need to start taking care of themselves, and its not like a if someone attacks one of our allies we are not going to help, cause we still would.

You know the saying “When someone shows you who they are, believe them.”? Well…
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-jumps-to-conclusions-minutes-after-nice-attack-says-he-would-declare-a-world-war-as-president-a733c68d2cb3#.d8bw6k7gb

I disagree with the proposal for multiple reasons, but this logic is actually false. If Trump seriously does threaten to take it out of their remittance money, Mexico has to act quickly or lose a $24 billion source of foreign income.

Mexico is an odd situation because large parts of their economy piggyback off the US. Personally, we should have sent troops to Mexico and stabilized that clusterfuck before trying to clean up the Middle East.

Pretty funny how exaggerated they take Trumps quotes.

Why are you coming to his defense? Do you actually believe that a fascist is correct in wanting America to wage more war for nothing?

Mexico gets something like 6 billion a year in foreign aid and their primary source of income is remittances from the U.S. both of which are stoppable by the stroke of Trumps pen. They’ll pay for it voluntarily with a reasonable accommodation or we will just collect it like your Bank does an overdraft fee.

Did you even read Mechwarrior? I highly doubt dealing with terrorist and immigrants is going to lead to a world war. He would be impeached before he could declare a world war.

Nixon routinely made wild threats all the time and made more peace deals and stopped more wars than any President in modern politics.

It’s called Big stick diplomacy, unlike groveling and causing massive instability like Obama has from Syria to Russia.

I guess people forget in america you cant do whatever you want as president, you still can be impeached. This isnt a dictatorship

If anyone is likely to start a war - it’s Hillary. Bitch might as well be insane at this point due to her age and press the Red Button under her White House table

@Jimbo13 Nixon basically said “Fuck you, I’m the president.” to the Supreme Court and their response was “Nice try. Smell the glove, motherfucker.” That’s not role-model material, but it’s no surprise that you hero-worship that corrupt, hypocritical, vile bastard anyways.

I would love to hear how you would describe the War on Terror.

Well just vote for hillary than, all shes going to do is give more money to nato and have us go even more in debt.

And I dont need to describe the War on Terror, people have already done that over the decade.

I do hero worship Nixon, I looked at his record unlike most people. 18 year olds wouldn’t even get to vote if it wasn’t for Nixon, imagine how disappointed you would be in 3 years when you wanted to write in John Bachtell or whatever commie is running a write in campaign.

how daft are you? None of that is proof that he would start a war that matters and or isn’t already being waged.

the first article talks about how he doesn’t want refugee’s to come, which is grounded in at least valid reasons. And he said he would declare war on ISIS, which is a terror group, a group that is by defacto already at war with the US thanks to the War on Terror. A war started by Something started by Bush, and was heavily expanded under Obezzy. In fact, Obezzy’s mishandling of the middle east has escalated the situation to one where it can’t be dealt with unless we do uncomfortable things. So please do tell me how is declaring war on ISIS equivocal to declaring war against a real power like Russia and or China, especially given the fact that there is at least a basis to routinely target and kill ISIS personnel and institutions, vs Clinton’s promise of declaring war on Russia the next time there’s a cyber attack. There is no proof that Trump would declare or start a war that isn’t already being fought.

Had Trump said, i’m not going to escalate any war’s it’d be different, but that’s not what he’s being accused off.

The second article has nothing to do with starting a war. Its about torturing no name sand people, so what does that have to do with starting a war? In fact, what does this article have to do with the subject at hand? WE aren’t talking about torture and it’s ethics and how the relate to the American standard, we are talking about whether or not this dude would declare war.

the irony is that sanders would be an equal fascist in implementing his policy. You are a proven fascist as well, so stop throwing that word around like it means anything when it comes out of your mouth. You hate Trump for his stance of wanting to oppress others, when you want to oppress and execute said oppressors and simply becoming the oppressor.

then its just fear mongering. If you are going to hype the trump presidency under the pretense of fear, at least ground it on reality. Not some far flung bullshit left wing conspiracy based on weird logic jumps. There are a lot of reasons why we should fear trump being presidency. The opponents of trump in this thread have continuously failed to use the correct examples to prove why trump shouldn’t be president. But what we know is that Hillary has a proven track record of war against foreign nations, crony capitalism, and proof that she’s willing to declare war on a whim when her agenda is at risk. The best we can do with trump is speculate because there is nothing to base his record on.

better? you will continue getting shit typing skills when i’m not on my desktop.

@pedoviejo Fascism is an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization, which is the ideology espoused by Trump and the legions of Blackshirt wannabes that you and Jimbo number among. And…while we’re at it, “oppress”? Really? So seeing good little bootlickers like you for what you are suddenly makes me the bad guy? Get the FUCK out of here. You support a would-be tyrant, so you don’t have the right to have an opinion of who the “bad” guys are. People like YOU with disgraceful, obsolete beliefs like yours are the “bad” guys here. The IJA, the Royal Italian Army, and the Wehrmacht thought they were “good” like you do too, and look how that turned out.

People like you don’t get to play the victim. Not like this. Far right-wing ideologues/Klanners/Neo-Nazis/white supremacists/etc. are never victims. They are simply villains who like playing the victim, like you and your buddy skinhead #2 do in this thread on a daily basis. You don’t get to do that.