more frame data:
http://wiki.livedoor.jp/inatekken/d/���?��?��TBR
the site doesnt use the typical tekken notation and it’s japanese but it’s still understandable. i was able to read through it just fine.
i also came across this notebook that has even more info on all the characters’ frame data. i’ll post that up sometime tomorrow.
edit: new idea for the title “the head giving, chainsaw wielding gundam… the alisa thread” just an idea though…
any exclusive alisa players get removed from games often? about every other game i win like 2 or 3 and ldr removes me. half T6 player online have no fighting spirit and never step up. im about to smash this disc. dear sweet alisa why do ppl hate you so.
The short answer is 1,1. Also, her style is so unorthodox and they’re too lazy to learn the matchup. I haven’t touched online since the first try because I don’t own any scuba gear, but you have to consider that the majority of players who are actually playing online right now are almost all casuals or lag abusers who want their online win/loss to look good once it becomes playable and the big boys come out to play. These types of players know, or care nothing about leveling up.
yea i should take a break. online have me mad steamin too much.
I need to hit the lottery so i can open arcades across North America :sad:
Truly. I couldn’t believe ATL didn’t have one when I moved here. The only fighting arcade game I’ve found here is a broken tekken 4 machine at Dave and Buster’s. They could at least have the decency for it to be a broken TTT machine or something.
a few alisa combos (most from the front page), done by me:
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11 hit juggle:
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Startime in Roswell used to have a T5DR machine, but they apparently closed earlier this year.
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Adding the WS2 combo here, just doing my part
Which launcher is faster, WS2 or d/f+2? Don’t have my frame data pic ATM.
IIRC WS2 isn’t much slower than d/f+2. I know d/f+2 is 16F though.
i believe WS2 is 17F but -13 defended
it just seems to me that all of alisa’s launchers are stupid slow
Just a bit…lol.
I have to say I do like the range on WS2, though.
so any tips on what to do against a grounded opponent? any resets off a backroll? I have bad oki. : /
against a backroll, f 2 works pretty good. i posted a combo a couple posts back that uses the f 2 to get back into a combo.
if they just lay there, you can try ws 2 1. i think it only works against face up feet towards you though. not 100% sure.
about that notebook data i found earlier this week, it seems accurate so i’ll try to post it soon but i’ve been busy with family over.
Hopefully this is the right place for this, but how do you do Alisa’s Sample Combo 5 this combo starts in her destruction/chainsaw form, she hits the opponent in the air retracts her chainsaws and follows up with three more hits., I know which moves she’s using to do the combos but what i don’t understand is how in the world she’s retracting her chainsaws so fast in order to follow up with the next set of hits, anybody figure out how to do this?
I generally do d/b+4 is a good low a bit slow but can catch side rolls. d/b+3 is the safest option to do but low reward for it. u/f+4,4, risky catches low trippers, the second kick hits landed opponents but ppl eventually will learn to block that.
My tips(nothing new for arcade players), Alisa seems to be a defensive orientated character. She can crush low attacks easily. b+3+4 or u/f+4,4 stomps low attacks. If possible, try to do them on reaction.
d/f+33 is a good move to use at times. Just be careful.
She has probably the best running options on the game. running 2 is high but it guarantees a f+1+2 on hit and it gives you an advantage on block or so it seems.
She can mix running 2, running 3,3+4, running throw, running low attack.
DES 2, u/f+1+2, 1+2, f+2 3 3
the second 1+2 retracts the chainsaws. if you’re having trouble with the timing just mash it during the u/f+1+2, then when you see them dissapear go into the f+2 3 3. it’s really easy if you buffer the 1+2 presses. (when you do the DES 2, just hold it down then do u/f+1, then keep mashing 1 for the DES cancel).
and yeah K4polo, thats most of the stuff I do, just thought maybe she had more. 
edit: also how do I get the red light saber chainsaws I see in some videos?
the light sabers are censored chainsaws since korea has something against that. her rocket punches and head giving throws are also censored.
that’s weak, they look awesome. :bluu: