The 2020 Election Thread: Harris Drops from race, only 2,000 other democrats still in

Dime · 2019-08-13T03:29:02.112Z

restoring-america.com

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pedoviejo · 2019-08-13T03:32:54.531Z

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Exrtrapolate that number for me.

Or do you need a source to calculate it for you? Part of reading research papers is to extatpolate relevant data amd numbers. Asking to be feed numbera is bad practice and poor synthesis

Optimus124 · 2019-08-13T03:37:26.012Z

You’re saying extrapolate the numbers when the source states a total is only 13% of all homicides. That’s magic you are asking to be done. How can that be 65-75% of all violent deaths (homicide) by firearms.

I also posted that source earlier as well.

pedoviejo · 2019-08-13T03:52:21.631Z

I saw rhat, lol

en.m.wikipedia.org

Gun violence in the United States

In the United States, gun violence results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually, and was the leading cause of death for children 19 and younger in 2020. In 2018, the most recent year for which data are available as of 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics reports 38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were by suicide. The rate of firearm deaths per 100,000 people rose from 10.3 per 100,000 in 1999 to 12 pe About 1.4...

Overwhelming majority of homicide in the US are by handguns. Overwhlming majority of homicde offenders are aged 17 to 34, of which an overwhelming majority are concentrated in specific areas urban areas. An article i posted earlier stated only 46% of homicides are reaolved, amd are conce trated in those same specific areas with high gang activity, effectively allowing for the doubling of that 2k ish gang homicide number.

You also have to account for thr fact that a lot of strong armed robbery, home invasion, and mugging are done by individuals in gangs, which adds to the aggrgate of gang related homicides and violence. Which btw iant factored as gang violence, although perpetuated by gang indoctrination and behavior.

Optimus124 · 2019-08-13T04:00:42.584Z

pedoviejo:

An article i posted earlier stated only 46% of homicides are reaolved, amd are conce trated in those same specific areas with high gang activity, effectively allowing for the doubling of that 2k ish gang homicide number.

You’re attempting to impute the number without any sort of measure.

pedoviejo:

You also have to account for thr fact that a lot of strong armed robbery, home invasion, and mugging are done by individuals in gangs, which adds to the aggrgate of gang related homicides and violence.

Again that’s an assumption. While it may be true by anecdotal support, there is a specific category for the statistic you are referencing. If there was some sort of factor to account for it, I’d agree. For example, NHTSA accounts certain single nighttime vehicle crashes with an imputation factor of it being a drunk driver based on other contributing factors within a report. Even then it’s not doubled. It’s in the single percentage points.

dab00g · 2019-08-13T04:12:09.109Z

You won

I am proud.

You should qualify to own a gun

Like you should qualify to drive

Who disagrees with this is an idiot.

maxx · 2019-08-13T08:25:18.154Z

Sith lord level moves

New York Post – 5 Feb 19

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard gets 2020 endorsement from David Duke

Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has apparently gotten an endorsement she said she can do without — from former KKK leader David Duke. The 68-year-old white supremacist and former…

Darksakul · 2019-08-13T08:33:14.234Z

I would too reject the endorsement of a former head of the KKK.

Red_Rock_Candy · 2019-08-13T09:00:51.883Z

Mike_MF_Hall:

I never said white people ARE a threat. I said nobody is giving guns up in the hood because of the same dumb ass irrational fear that makes hillbilly militia folk think the government or some other country is coming to invade. Except my irrational hypothetical fear story is more likely.

Irrational my ass. You not see this missile Putin was testing?

Darksakul · 2019-08-13T10:13:35.704Z

And what makes you think a bunch of hillbillies are qualified to deal with a ICBM from Russia?

Mike_MF_Hall · 2019-08-13T11:06:47.473Z

Keep shifting blame to minorities and immigrants. Its clear you got your agenda and you’re holding it. But imma drop out. Looks like the premise you building all this shit on isn’t factual at all.

Optimus keeps swatting your shit to the second row. I thought facts didn’t care about feelings?

AriesWarlock · 2019-08-13T12:32:49.780Z

CNN’s Chris Cuomo Filmed Erupting at Heckler Who Called Him ‘Fredo’: ‘I’ll Fcking Ruin Your Sht’

CNN’s Chris Cuomo erupted at a man in public who apparently called him “Fredo,” in a wild moment caught on video that went viral Monday night.

“Punk-ass bitches from the right call me Fredo,” Cuomo told the man, who claimed he thought the CNN anchor was named Fredo. “My name is Chris Cuomo. I’m an anchor on CNN. Fredo is from The Godfather .”

“They use it as an Italian aspersion. Any of you Italian?” Cuomo continued. “It’s an insult to your fucking people. It’s like the N-word for us.”

They went back and forth, and at one point Cuomo said, “I’ll fucking ruin your shit. I’ll fucking throw you down these stairs like a fucking punk.”

A CNN spokesperson told Mediaite in a statement, “Chris Cuomo defended himself when he was verbally attacked with the use of an ethnic slur in an orchestrated setup. We completely support him.”

Houston Chronicle Ed. Board Calls on Beto O’Rourke to Drop Out and Run for Senate: ‘Come Home … Texas Needs You’

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Beto-come-home-Texas-needs-you-Editorial-14294396.php

Houston Chronicle has determined that Beto O’Rourke can’t win the 2020 Democratic nomination, but he still might be able to politically serve Texas if he drops out of the race now.

The Chronicle ‘s editorial board released an op-ed on Saturday commending O’Rourke for his actions and statements following the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings. The piece especially approves of O’Rourke’s media blitz against President Donald Trump , describing it as “a human moment” when the former Texas congressman was straight-forward as he pronounced Trump a racist and racial divider.

From the piece:

We aren’t used to seeing candidates act like real people.

Frankly, it’s made us wish O’Rourke would shift gears, and rather than unpause his presidential campaign, we’d like to see him take a new direction.

So Beto, if you’re listening: Come home. Drop out of the race for president and come back to Texas to run for senator. The chances of winning the race you’re in now are vanishingly small. And Texas needs you.

The op-ed goes on to suggest O’Rourke compete against Senator John Cornyn , saying “Trump is no longer rock-solid in Texas. Neither are the Republicans who support him.”

Red_Rock_Candy · 2019-08-13T12:36:05.437Z

Your mothers clit. That’s my answer.

Also you still need boots on the ground to win a war.

Darksakul · 2019-08-13T12:44:38.184Z

First off, leave my mother out of this.
2nd What do hillbillies know?
Nothing

Don’t tell me about boots on the ground, I served in the military, I know that trained and disciplined troops are needed to hold ground.
Untrained civilians are more a liability than anything else, especially bunch of red neck idiots who think they can hit a deer with a scope at 150 yards can match a trained and season veteran who can hit a target 500 yards away with iron sights.

Stop getting your shit from movies and TV and read a fucking book.

Optimus124 · 2019-08-13T13:41:51.436Z

AriesWarlock:

CNN’s Chris Cuomo erupted at a man in public who apparently called him “Fredo,” in a wild moment caught on video that went viral Monday night.

“Punk-ass bitches from the right call me Fredo,” Cuomo told the man, who claimed he thought the CNN anchor was named Fredo. “My name is Chris Cuomo. I’m an anchor on CNN. Fredo is from The Godfather .”

“They use it as an Italian aspersion. Any of you Italian?” Cuomo continued. “It’s an insult to your fucking people. It’s like the N-word for us.”

In the words of Mr. Johnathan Smith

Don’t start no shit, it won’t be no shit!

Those are some of the worst types of people.

odin · 2019-08-13T13:43:37.769Z

Happy birthday, Sakul.

pedoviejo · 2019-08-13T14:41:32.525Z

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I posted this link, therea your value, whih i undershoot. Making me work, shame on you.

pedoviejo · 2019-08-13T14:59:17.725Z

The Bismarck Tribune

The 30 cities with the highest murder rates in the US

Despite a 20-year downward trend for violent crime in the U.S., murder rates have gone up in the past two years. Here's a look at the cities that currently have

Theres no agenda. The numbers speak for themselves. I refuse to deprive american citizens their God given rights because minorities cant seem to get their shit togheter.

If you track the demographics of each of those cities you will see that an iverwhelming of them are predominantly minorities. Based on the DOJ publications, minorities constitute the super majority of criminal gang elements, tracking the DOJ data on prison population with respect to violent crime, the overwhelming majority are minority individuals. Tracking the firearm homicide rate, as well as violent assault which is concentrated in inner coty areas.

Stating facts isnt agenda
Refusing to yeild my rights on the account for a shit demographic is not oushing an agenda
Forcing the nation to adopt draconian innefective laws for a problem demographic is not an agenda

If you cant accept the facts, and still expect people to go along with your bullshit laws and restrictions on peooles liberty, then its you with the agenda.

Optimus124 · 2019-08-13T15:42:32.528Z

You posted that article earlier which I stated they did not line up with the CDC or NGC studies. Not sure what you are getting at. I even quoted from that article in a response.
EDIT: As a recap

pedoviejo:

Putting Gun Death Statistics in Perspective

This is the section that I specifically addressed earlier in the highlighted box

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Optimus124:

The si gle largest chink associated with violent death by firearm is at about 12 to 15k lives per year, of whi h 65 to 75% are due to gangs. Gangs font care about your laws, as rhey dont buy legal weapons.

There is no source either of us has provided that proves this point. It’s only stated in the text from that link, but it is no where listed in the document referenced.

Gang Violence Driving Force of Gun Violence

To hear gun control advocates speak, one would be led to believe that gun violence is a widespread problem whereby the mere existence of a gun is as much a problem as the person who intends to wield it. But the reality is that gun homicides are overwhelmingly tied to gang violence. In fact, a staggering 80% of gun homicides are gang-related. According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC), gang homicides accounted for roughly 8,900 of 11,100 gun murders in both 2010 and 2011. That means that there were just 2,200 non gang-related firearm murders in both years in a country of over 300 million people and 250 million guns.

Here is the study linked in “accounted for”

cdc.gov

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There is nothing in the document that correlates to gang violence. Like I mentioned previously, it’s not in the CDC dataset. All of those are based off of the ICD-10 codes. There is one for gangs , but it is not listed within the report provided. You are reading into the number incorrectly.

Mike_MF_Hall · 2019-08-13T15:49:14.850Z

Naw dog. I can cite slanted ass website numbers too. In fact this one goes directly against the numbers and data used in that one, citing numbers from the same article and telling you why its wrong

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/do-we-have-a-gang-problem_b_5071639

So, do we have a gang problem or a gun problem? Data collected by the National Gang Center, the government agency responsible for cataloging gang violence, makes clear that it’s the latter. There were 1,824 gang-related killings in 2011. This total includes deaths by means other than a gun. The Bureau of Justice Statistics finds this number to be even lower, identifying a little more than 1,000 gang-related homicides in 2008. In comparison, there were 11,101 homicides and 19,766 suicides committed with firearms in 2011

According to the Federal Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP), the number of gangs and gang members has been on the rise for some time now, increasing by more than one-third in the past decade. Between 2010 and 2011, for example, there was a 3 percent increase in the number of gangs, but an 8 percent decrease in gang-related homicides. If gang violence was truly driving the gun homicide rate, we should not see gang membership and gun homicide rates moving in opposite directions.

The most recent Centers for Disease Control study on this subject lends further credence to our claim. It examined five cities that met the criterion for having a high prevalence of gang homicides: Los Angeles, California; Oklahoma City, Oklahoma; Long Beach, California; Oakland, California; and Newark, New Jersey. In these cities, a total of 856 gang and 2,077 non-gang homicides were identified and included in the analyses. So, even when examining cities with the largest gang problems, gang homicides only accounted for 29 percent of the total for the period under consideration (2003-2008). For the nation as a whole it would be much smaller.

The 80 percent of gang-related gun homicides figure purporting to support Loesch’s claim, then, is not only false, but off by nearly a factor of five. The direct opposite is necessarily true: more than 80 percent of gun homicides are non-gang related. While gang violence is still a serious problem that needs to be addressed, it is disingenuous to assert that the vast majority of our gun problem (even excluding suicides) is caused by gangs.

In spite of this, LaPierre’s proposed solution to gun violence is to “contact every U.S. Attorney and ask them to bring at least 10 cases per month against drug dealers, gang members and other violent felons caught illegally possessing firearms.”

That same CDC study, however, also refutes LaPierre’s claim that the drug trade is fueling gun-violence, saying, "the proportion of gang homicides resulting from drug trade/use or with other crimes in progress was consistently low in the five cities, ranging from zero to 25 percent.