Tekken 5 DR Online Good Games Thread

[evilj]

The idea is to give him tips, since you want to nitpick

CH ss+2 leads to hella damage, if don’t want to use it, don’t use it then. It’s safe, I have good judgment and timing of distance, so I use it. I’m guessing you don’t so don’t use it.

I haven’t found much success myself with db+1+2, but I still list it because people mention it.

qcf+3 is unsafe I agree, I just gave him a launcher
df+3+4, I was unsure if it’s safe or not, you can’t attack after they block this i know, but again it’s another easy launcher and whiff punisher, plus I don’t this would be punishable online.

I still use jabs so I use 1,2. I don’t see how you can NOT use jabs with ANY character.

yeah I use df+1~1 not df+1

ss+4 can go into HS
b+3 is quick mid, I honestly don’t use it much myself but I heard and saw Qdogg use this move a lot back in tekken tag so I listed it.

edit: I was actually playing this online yesterday, honestly eddy only needs a few moves to win, d+4 to space, u+4 to punish and low crush (I don’t know why that one guy fixed my post replacing u+4 with uf+4 because it’s the same move afaik), slippery kicks or rlx 4~3 for low hit into big damage which is impossible to block if you play like you would offline and don’t become predictable, and mids like df+2 and df+11 for up close. Occasional infinite strings for confusion is good too. (ie b+4,3 strings or db+3,4 strings)

I played more mokujin though and ended losing to a bryan who would go for df+3 everytime (easy as hell to block off online). When I started blocking or anticipating this, he’d go for uf+4 lol. It doesn’t matter if he whiffs the df+3 from max range (let’s say you bait it) if you run up to punish, you’ll eat a ws+3 lol. Funny game.

Cable1096 add me again.

[Son_Them_All]

I use Lili’s flips offline and they work just as good as they do online… lol. Tekken Online is trash? That’s going a bit too far. I do have a really good connection (verizon FIOS), so “Tekken” hasn’t changed all that much for me when I go up against someone else with a decent connection.

I really do play the same online as I do offline… I also throw a lot too, and that doesn’t stop me from throwing online (I could care less what people consider to be good etiquette). I can also escape throws online just the same… It’s not as different as you think. By the way, I LOVE Tekken Online, just for the record.

I’m also used to playing fighting games with a little bit of lag because I’ve been playing on Kaillera for YEARS. That might be a reason why a little bit of lag doesn’t phase me much.

Wait wait wait wait…you’re not THE Frankie are you? As in, runs Fighter’s Gen? If so mad props for that.

Buuuut 2 things. 1. Lili’s flips are not as effective online, that’s just silly and 2. No throws cannot be escaped in lag that’s just silly.

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

The idea is to give him tips, since you want to nitpick

CH ss+2 leads to hella damage, if don’t want to use it, don’t use it then. It’s safe, I have good judgment and timing of distance, so I use it. I’m guessing you don’t so don’t use it.

I haven’t found much success myself with db+1+2, but I still list it because people mention it.

qcf+3 is unsafe I agree, I just gave him a launcher
df+3+4, I was unsure if it’s safe or not, you can’t attack after they block this i know, but again it’s another easy launcher and whiff punisher, plus I don’t this would be punishable online.

I still use jabs so I use 1,2. I don’t see how you can NOT use jabs with ANY character.

yeah I use df+1~1 not df+1

ss+4 can go into HS
b+3 is quick mid, I honestly don’t use it much myself but I heard and saw Qdogg use this move a lot back in tekken tag so I listed it.

edit: I was actually playing this online yesterday, honestly eddy only needs a few moves to win, d+4 to space, u+4 to punish and low crush (I don’t know why that one guy fixed my post replacing u+4 with uf+4 because it’s the same move afaik), slippery kicks or rlx 4~3 for low hit into big damage which is impossible to block if you play like you would offline and don’t become predictable, and mids like df+2 and df+11 for up close. Occasional infinite strings for confusion is good too. (ie b+4,3 strings or db+3,4 strings)

I played more mokujin though and ended losing to a bryan who would go for df+3 everytime (easy as hell to block off online). When I started blocking or anticipating this, he’d go for uf+4 lol. It doesn’t matter if he whiffs the df+3 from max range (let’s say you bait it) if you run up to punish, you’ll eat a ws+3 lol. Funny game.

Cable1096 add me again.

I wasnt nitpicking, if you dont play christie and I do play christie then its only natural I fix the errors in your post, because there were errors. Sorry.

I never use 12. I use 124~4 and 1243. But not 12. Moves like Wangs f1+2 eat it alive.

ss+4 into handstand? Whos gonna let you do that? I dunno . .maybe once you get them to start freezing.

u+4 isnt the same as uf+4. The latter moves you forward while the former keeps you in place, if you are using it to punish then the one that moves forward is a no-brainer.

I been playing a lot with christies infinite and ss+3 cancel into negativa mixups. Oh there are just too sexy.

[evilj]

i honestly do not see the difference between u+4 and uf+4…they both move forward to me. its just the command list lists it as uf+4. in tag it was u+4. most people these days started on t5.

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

At any rate, Christie has to work too damn hard for her wins.

[Ephidel]

Man my Dragonov is hella scrubby, but I think I’m improving a bit.

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

I started out playing with him, not unpredictable enough for me.

qcf+2 and uf+4 are the shit tho.

[Frankie]

If you use Lili’s flips offline you must be playing hella trash! Lili can be poked out of those cartwheels with ease. Its just hard with the online stuttering to be able to accurately time the counters to her moves. Lili is terribly linear.

LOL. I know she can be poked out of those flips… people do it to me online and I’ve actually learned which moves she can be poked with (lol). Sometimes I only do the first flip (df 3+4), then I can do some mix up, or if it hits, I go into a combo. Ohh and I sidestep a lot, I definitely don’t play her linear. She’s really a beast if you play her right. :wgrin:

[Frankie]

Wait wait wait wait…you’re not THE Frankie are you? As in, runs Fighter’s Gen? If so mad props for that.

Buuuut 2 things. 1. Lili’s flips are not as effective online, that’s just silly and 2. No throws cannot be escaped in lag that’s just silly.

Yea yea, it’s me… FYagami. I haven’t been on SRK in YEARS. Anywho, read my post above… Lili is a beast online or offline! And yeah I totally escape throws even with yellow bars. Red bars? Well, that’s different. lol.

[evilj]

Lili is a beast online or offline!

Yeah she can be (offline), not because of flips though. She has a lot of post launch setups, where you sacrafice guaranteed juggle damage to gamble for more damage, she has stuff to punish backrollers, tech rolls, and people who lie down, but once they figure you out, good luck actually launching them. uf+3 and ss+3 are punishable and can be baited, df+2 is not punishable but you can’t do anything after that. qcf+1 is punishable, d+3+4 is very punishable.

all she’s really left with to start her offense is jabs, df+1, d+4, b+1 for block stun, and ff+4 which is hard to see. I guess db+4 and db+3 are ok lows too. 1+2 is good punisher too. of course none of this matters online when you can do cartwheels, uf+3, and throws.

Again, you said you know she can be poked out of the flips, so you stop and only do one flip, even then, the mixup after blocking one flip is not in lili’s favor. Sidestepping a lot doesn’t make her any less linear.

[Sonickun]

got a question 4 anybody…
is lee any good? online? what startagies can lee use?

[evilj]

lee has a strong wall game (easy carry, strong combo), he can punish a lot of stuff with 1,2,4 such as lili’s launchers. uf+4 is quick and low crush but it’s jab punishable. it also interrupt between lili’s cartwheels. online, you can just keep doing for juggles with df+2.

mixup wise, not that many good lows, he can keep away with ff+3.

I don’t know any good japanese or korean lee players so i’ll just post old vids of my friend

you can steal some setups.

[torn]

I hear Fightinggm is a good Lee player though you can ask on the TZ forums to get some more names. Either way, you can youtube some of his matches.

Off the top of my head, here are people you want to watch if you want to learn someone.

Eddy: Slips or Spero Gin
Baek:
Devil Jin: Kane
Asuka: YIMACHINE, Hatman
Ganyru: insanelee
Bob (Hwo): MadDogJin
Hei: FilthyRich
Jack: Arario
Steve: Nin, Myk
Kaz: Leedy
Ling: JMS/Jio
Bryan: Knee

That’s all I got for now…

[yah_yaahh_b_tch]

Lili’s d3+4 is punishable? By WHAT?

I though it caused block stun and pushback.

[evilj]

^That’s actually probably her most punishable move-if it wasn’t though, it’d be broken as hell.

Yeah you’re right, it does look like it puts people in block stun, but much like bruces uf+3 (which looks like it causes block stun), it’s punishable at least jab strings, I think it’s punishable by electrics too but I’m unsure. Lee’s hopkick could probably punish it too.

qcf+1 is another punishable move too even though it doesn’t look like it. DJ get’s free 112 on it. 1+2 on block is punishable too with 112.

Torn: Only thing I disagree about your list is JMS-but in general I hate watching other lings play. MYK is my friend and he’s pretty solid but he’s still far behind nin. Kane has a pretty good lili too. I haven’t seen anyone else play lili seriously in the us.

[Frankie]

Again, you said you know she can be poked out of the flips, so you stop and only do one flip, even then, the mixup after blocking one flip is not in lili’s favor. Sidestepping a lot doesn’t make her any less linear.

That’s why I try to make the first flip hit… :wgrin: And if it doesn’t hit, a lot of times my opponent doesn’t know what to do, so I get to choose my second attack as well, and she has quite a few options… several lows, highs, and not to mention A or B throw.

Flipping aside… Her air combos and variety of launchers are probably what make her the most dangerous. Mixing in that flip though has really worked for me lately… especially when you make your opponent thing you are going low… then Df 3 + 4… Into combo. Ouch.

[ShinkuuR]

Lili’s d3+4 is punishable? By WHAT?

I though it caused block stun and pushback.

Naw, you can hop kick her without much effort. At least -17 on block.

[yimaxi]

I play this sometime, alway up for some good matchs when I am on.

[Cable1096]

I have some good info for your guys! lol ss+4 can be cancelled. Press back right after you do a SS+4 and it cancels in to handstand. ss+2 is good when used right and it has enough guard stun that you can’t cancel it. You can be jabbed out of uf+4 (Slips will do it). Still a good move though.

df+3+4 with Lili is good if used correctly. It has mix-up game afterwards and knocks down for a nice juggle on CH. It’s actually on the top 10 list of her best moves on TZ. Don’t do the 2nd df+3+4.

LOL, btw, funniest character to use online is Yoshi. You can use his 1+4 for so many things. I don’t know if you guys know this, but Lili’s df+2 is deemed as unpunishable. NOT TO YOSHI THOUGH! He can do 1+4 right after it and get a nice little combo out of it. Guess it would be SLIGHTLY punishable then. Yoshi is fun.

I will add you again evilj82.

BTW, what are you talking about Shinkuur? I’ve tried to hopkick Lili after the 2nd flip. All she needs to do is a d+2 or a BT 1+2 and she has you. BTW, Eddy’s b+3,3 doesn’t work against Lili’s 2nd flip, depending on which BT option they use with her. BTW, good Julia man.

[evilj]

he’s talking about d+3+4, not df+3+4. But going with what you said, a hopkick should beat a d+2 since it low crushes…