I think I may have found the lili killer in Lee. Must test online though.
Lilis aren’t a problem for me. Let them do their flips and I’ll just b3,3 with Eddie and take care of them. Asuka and King players annoy me the most I think. You want to low parry those dumb Asukas that use the stupid jab then low kick shit. Too bad you can’t low parry them because DR:Online is laggy. It’s very annoying playing online. King annoys me a lot online because everyone uses the same moves and just keeps attacking. Therefore, I just have to dumb myself down to beat them (AKA using launchers constantly) and counter hits. Add me though people. The people that have added me so far never seem to be on when I am. I’m usually on between 9-12 central time on random weeknights. I’m a very busy person though, but add me anyway so you have some competition. Not to mention, I don’t abuse lag.
i done that tooo watch lol
Bryan players be owning my lili :sad:
CK, why not extend the juggle? You know you can essentially carry them to the wall with that one Lee juggle.
There’s no walls in the swamp stage ^
That lili wasn’t very abusive.
Offline, I just tested it and uf+4 interrupts the cartwheel between the first and second hits, basically you can throw it out after blocking the first, (hopefully it doesn’t lag and the move comes out) If they do only one flip, or if you block both flips, you should still be able hit them afterwards if they tried a d+1 or any low hit due to the crush system. If they are still back turned you get 2,1,1 followup, if they are frontwards when they are launched you get a full combo.
I’m also going to try hitting them with d+4,4,4,4 (online tactic FTW) after cartwheels.
also blocked uf+3 with lili gives lee free 1,2,4.
People who use d+4,4,4,4 online are assholes though if the other player isn’t abusing lag. You should only use that on people who are abusing lag and need some counter-abuse. If you used that in real life, I would easily low parry that crap. It’s not a good move. I will be online today in the afternoon if anyone wants to play. I don’t abuse lag, so they will be good matches :).
I don’t think I have ever seen soooo many flips online like you did against Hades. Fuck…
Correct.
Basically, any quick mid attack will stop the flip inbetween the two parts, or if she stops. However be careful of BT+1+2 if you do a mid that doesn’t knock down or launch: you’ll end up trading and might get juggled.
For people having problems with Lili and her flips, she can’t track for shit(especially to her left). Just sidewalk/sidestep her ass.
Ugh stupid king player, I swear his grapples are beastly.
other than that i did ok today 
She’s can’t track on her left, meaning you should go to the right right? That’s what I do on her a lot too. Sidewalk right in general I think is good on a lot of characters.
Lee’s d+4,4,4,4 online is nothing compared to eddy’s stuff online. Yes offline both would get parried instantly, but I honestly have no shame in doing that to cartwheel lili players. Plus, in my post, I mentioned it as a BT tactic, not when the other person is facing forward. Hopefully they’ll eat all of them from behind.
I’m not trying to be a dick Ephidel, but the way you played was the most abusive lag tactics I have ever seen. I still won, but I really don’t care about winning. I just want to get games in with people who don’t use lag tactics. I know you are learning, but that doesn’t mean you should abuse the living shit out of the lag. Do you play locally? You should have someone teach you the right way to play. If you went to a tournament and used the jab, low kick spin with Asuka like you repeatedly did to me, you would get low parried and launched. Also, if you did the flipping with Lili at a tournament, you would get juggled in the middle of one of your flips. This is why I fucking hate DR Online. I get fucking frustrated that everyone abuses lag and I can’t ever find anyone to get good games in with. Basically, everyone whores out Paul more than anyone and uses major lag tactics. He is the most annoying fucker online. People use King, Paul, Lili, and Asuka more online than anyone. Not to mention it’s fucking annoying that the lag doesn’t really allow you to low parry efficiently. Anyway, this wasn’t meant to be mean Ephidel, but it was really annoying playing against you since you kept doing the same thing over and over again while using your lag tactics to do it. I had to keep launching and pretty much nothing else because you kept attacking. Does anyone other than me and Cyclone not abuse the hell out of lag? I play online like I would play offline, unless someone abuses lag and forces me to change tactics.(other than giving up on low parries)
Naw man it’s all good, I don’t intentionally abuse lag but that’s the way I fight online or not. Thing is, I still get low parried online ALL the time haha…you sure I kept doing low spin kick cuz I don’t remember abusing it. Mixups yeah, but I’ve gotten better not throwing that shit out randomly because it spells death. (low spin kick)
And yeah, I’m still learning so I hope you can cut me some slack man. Lag is part of online play, and I know my record would be pretty bad offline. That’s why I practice to become better - I’ve been in matches where the screen doesn’t even move for 5 secs, messing up combos and juggles. Now THAT’s true lag my friend…like pressing foward and the character doesn’t move. Then a split second later he or she does…maybe I should quit this game. I was never good to begin with…
It is. Most characters has a side that their most dominant on. Usually it’s their left but sometimes it’s their right, so you have to step accordingly. Some characters have moves that track both ways so you need to predict these attacks to step right.
Ex:
Julia: Weak vs SSR. Her b+4 tracks both ways but it’s high.
Marduk: Weak vs SSL. His circular attacks are pretty slow but mid.
Eddy: Not weak vs any side(his u/f+4 is too good and his other attacks just natually cover space), but he can’t sidestep for shit.
Also, there are some attacks that won’t track SS, but will track SW, and vice versa. EWGF’s are one of them(you have to SSL and SWR to evade it I believe).
ephidel: you should keep playing and not be discouraged. Online is not for serious play, it’s for fun and to get better if you’re not familiar with the game. Hopefully we’ll play sometime, and if it doesn’t lag too much, you can see what tactics are good and what aren’t so good since I play multiple characters or mokujin.
shinkuur: Yeah thanks for the info. I always knew ewgf had to be ssl, but I guess since sidewalk is good in tekken 5, it can be SSR’ed or people have told me to go right when it’s always been left. I disagree with Julia though I think she is weak against ssl not ssr (probably both)
You can SSR against EWGF but you’ve got to be very correct about timing.
Anyway online sucks, you can’t react well 
I figured it was either one of the two, but I could never remember right. Which is probably why I keep my distance from Mishimas, or jab them alot up close lol.
evilj: Julia is pretty weak on both sides, but the reason people SSR against her is because her elbow is strong against SSL from max distance. You’d have to use f,F+1 for the elbow to track SSR a little. At jab range though, which way you SS doesn’t matter nearly as much.
ShunkuuR: oh ok that’s good to know, since I play julia, i’ll tell my friends now that ssl is better than ssr so they can’t evade me:devil:
ephidel & cable: To add what I said earlier, Cable I think most people who use lag tactics don’t really know any better that’s why they use it. I’m under the assumption that most people on srk don’t care too much about wins, they just want to get better, so if their lag tactics stop working, they will try something else…unlike some players who have 2000 wins and once their tactic stops working, they go to a different room and find different people to abuse it on.
Every character (some more than others) have gimmicks and shenanigans offline that are powered up online, such as lili’s cartwheels. Lili’s cartwheels are actually a pretty decent offline tactic (otherwise they wouldn’t work so well online), especially when you’re desperate. It can be a good move on oki, and one of those random good moves to throw out when let’s say you have 10 percent health left, and your opponent has more than 50 percent.
I’ve yet to complain about paul because I can usually beat pauls online and I’ll just pick paul myself or heihachi. I’m not too sure what people are complaining about, his scrub mixups? (d+1,2/d+1,4,2, qcb+3,2,1/2 mixups?) His deathfist qcf+2 (the power punch) is still his main move offline, so no point in complaining about that.
As far as asuka, well i wouldn’t really call her low sweeps gimmicks or shenanigans, more like scrub tactics because it isn’t really that good in the first place. If you can’t parry it you can just block it. It’s not as bad as eddy’s shit because with his shit, if you don’t parry it, you can’t followup or start attacking after blocking it cause it can go on forever.
I guess I don’t mind using lag tactics myself to win, or just going for launchers forever.
man, anybody getting on tonight, i wanna get some good matches in
seen some horribly scrubby lili’s and they dissapoint me, d/f+3+4, 3+4 all the time, it almost makes me ashamed to use her
I got beasted on by lili players tonight.
Then when I got close to beating one using lili myself, I got booted. Same thing happened later when I beat a lili with much effort involved using lee.
I’m starting not to like this anymore.