Teching throws during recovery - does it need to be patched/removed?

[UnshapedOrkRandomNumber]

I’d really prefer throws being an attack button and :s:. Sure, different characters have moves that involve an attack button and :s:, but if they just made it so that you could reserve a specific button for it, like :l::s: or :h::s:, and leave the other two for whatever that special attack is, I’d see this being viable, and we’d still be able to get the whiff animation. But if that never becomes the case, I’m sure there’s something else that could be done.

Doesn’t work with Phoenix Wright, who has all three combinations.

What if they made throws forward :s:? The problem with throws in this game is obviously the option selecting that just so happens to occur. You can’t use :s: as an option select from an air dash. There aren’t any command normals that involve the button. On the ground, a whiffed :s: is easily punishable (unless you’re Wesker). The only down side I can think of it is that a lot of characters have viable air :s: attacks, but other than that, it seems like a better way to go than :h:.

Interesting, but it’ll result in a lot of mistaken throws. Also, there’s the problem of S QCF attacks like Nemesis’ rocket.

[Mustachio]

I believe the general consensus is that the throw command in (U)MvC3 is not preferred; however, this is Capcom’s game and until there’s a drop in profits regarding gameplay itself (Or… Something major) there won’t be any ‘base mechanic’ changes.

[DevilJin_01]

I believe the general consensus is that the throw command in (U)MvC3 is not preferred; however, this is Capcom’s game and until there’s a drop in profits regarding gameplay itself (Or… Something major) there won’t be any ‘base mechanic’ changes.

Just like SFIV…Capcom is not going to change anything revolving the basics of this game. They made the game the way they wanted it to work for a reason and that’s the way it’s going to stay. There were threads like this during the Vanilla SFIV days about the laundry list of things people wanted to get changed about SFIV. Did Capcom ever budge? No…they made the game the way they wanted and that’s pretty much it

. The only thing they did to change the game revolved around the characters but you’ll pretty much have to hold Niitsuma hostage before he changes any of the basic gameplay mechanics.

[Mustachio]

We’ll see if having a player behind the wheel as opposed to a million dollar company brings out the perfect fighting game.

Come on Skullgirls. Make me proud.

[El_Maiz]

I’d really prefer throws being an attack button and :s:. Sure, different characters have moves that involve an attack button and :s:, but if they just made it so that you could reserve a specific button for it, like :l::s: or :h::s:, and leave the other two for whatever that special attack is, I’d see this being viable, and we’d still be able to get the whiff animation. But if that never becomes the case, I’m sure there’s something else that could be done.

What if they made throws forward :s:? The problem with throws in this game is obviously the option selecting that just so happens to occur. You can’t use :s: as an option select from an air dash. There aren’t any command normals that involve the button. On the ground, a whiffed :s: is easily punishable (unless you’re Wesker). The only down side I can think of it is that a lot of characters have viable air :s: attacks, but other than that, it seems like a better way to go than :h:.

Ryu, Storm, Doom, and Akuma also have a -1 on block S. Storm’s is also huge. Ammy’s is -2

Haggar’s is 0 on block. Same with Dark Phoenix

Turnabout PW is +3
Denjin Ryu is +2
Vergil’s can be chained into Upper Slash

People act like Wesker has the only safe launcher in the game.

[Duck_Strong]

Doesn’t work with Phoenix Wright, who has all three combinations.

Wouldn’t be hard to add directional inputs to cover all 3 evidence slots with a single set of buttons. +:l:+:s:, :l:+:s:, :f:+:s:. Omg it’s magic, you freed up 2 button combinations.

Smart bombs worked like this in MvC2.

Ultimately (see what I did there?) we could have avoided all this if Capcom hadn’t used the moronic :l:, ,:h: ,:s: button scheme. :s: is such a waste of a fucking button :annoy:.

[DevilJin_01]

Ryu, Storm, Doom, and Akuma also have a -1 on block S. Storm’s is also huge. Ammy’s is -2

Haggar’s is 0 on block. Same with Dark Phoenix

Turnabout PW is +3
Denjin Ryu is +2
Vergil’s can be chained into Upper Slash

People act like Wesker has the only safe launcher in the game.

If you’re good at the game safe launchers are the last thing you’re worried about. Most good characters can hit confirm easily into cancellable moves that give them more options than mashing on S any way. Zero never needs to hit S ever, X-23 never needs to hit S ever (I’ll take my +12 on block s.H instead), Dante never needs to hit S (jump cancellable low launcher? cool) etc.

[Mustachio]

Smart bombs worked like this in MvC2.

Wait what, they did? Fuck this game… Stupid Shoryuken inputs are the reason I whiff online/hyper cancel my specials so much.