"Target Sighted"! Jill Valentine Matchup Thread V2!

Wow gg’s sir, yes with modoks bomb she can convert into a full combo, some things are just harder online sometimes and its my new team at
the moment that im trying to get down. There so technical together, at the moment i am practicing some mad beast combos so i can also
use those if she happens to need them (sometimes that level 3 can save your life by making the kill with it without a reset.

I’m sure there are some (NSR probably got that tech :wink: but for now I will stick with the basics.
But yeah its a team in progress, Jill/Sent can be dangerous on block cause drones allow Jill to put people in obscure mixups. It’s hard to block jill
when her assist has you pinned sometimes impossible she has too many options, including command grabs. Thanks for the comment,
i still have a lot of training to do especially with modok, gg’s again.

As far as the bomb yes she can convert in a scary way heres one of my vids so far.

Heres something that will help you learn though, this is paulow’s vid.

Nice vids, deffinately gonna be using them… To get my revenge, lol! I’ll send you a friend request for dat salty run back.

Hey guys what do you guys do in the event you have to face team F-Champ, I hate that team with a passion cause of how disgustingly good it is. It seems like Dormammu with missiles counters the hell out of Modok. So I dont really know how to fight this team. Maybe I should consider picking up Skrull seriously. IDK

Well it looks like Paulow and KBR will go at it in 2 weeks when KBR goes to Brazil, I was at his stream today and asked him. Sounds hype to me good luck to you both.

Speaking of which, I forgot to respond to your post.

I think this is a tough fight for us. Missiles totally destroys any forward momentum. I’ve fought against Wentinel, and you just have to do a bunch of stray hits against Doom and Mag. Be aware that Missiles are coming, so be prepared to somersault and jump cancel and block it. Or, if you happen to hit him early enough, you could probably do the early wall bounce combo and escape Missiles altogether.

Now for my question, I hate Zero w/ a passion. Safe buster mixups frame traps, convert everywhere, large sweeping normals, hadangeki zoning, lightning that crosses up for no reason. I went to TRB last week, and lost 1-2 both to Zeros. How do you deal with this character? I can’t seem to do anything against him. Should I just say screw it and swap out?

another character i hate with all my heart is zero lol XD.

Hey rice, I have a question. I picked up jill again and just from playing Dante, I learned good spacing. So now that my spacing and mixups are pretty much on par with most jills IMO, I need to pick up the setups. But how do I learn to read and adapt to opponents like you do? Even Evil_Toaster said that you have the ability to adapt quicker than anybody he’s ever seen. How do I learn to do this? Thanks in advance.

Is that something you can learn? Lol. I say you just gotta have a good understanding of your character because you need to know your options creatively in any situation. Instead of guessing where they’re going to tech roll watch them, you have enough time. Or just somersault :wink:

True haha. And I’ve never really thought about just watching them. I’ve always plink dashed a few times so it follows them and then lead in with a 50/50 feral dash.

Are you asking me how to read opponents? There’s no answer to that, at all.

there’s thousands of opponents with thousands of different playstyles. There’s no formula on how to read opponents.

I know there’s no like formula. But how do you get better at downloading people in general?

By looking at your opponent’s character’s options and going from there.

You know Vergil’s going to helm breaker.
You know Doom’s going to footdive
etc.

Ah okay, gotcha. Thanks!

Sometimes i watch there habits as well, like are they a person who is uber defensive or do they try to press too many dame buttons all the time? If there always pressing buttons most of the time i just use somersault as a mixup right in there face when they wake up cause i know there gonna do something most of the time they get hit. There tech roll habits, there air recovery habits. I killed a doom one time with like 4 somersaults cause he just didnt get it. Footdive = somersault all day (just make sure to cancel it in case they change the timing. I will somersault and make them learn it cant be messed with, and converting into a Feral M when somersault connects for a combo will make then think twice about reckless foot dives. Although some people are more stubborn then others :shake: . Then you can enjoy other mix-ups on them cause now they respect it.

If there always pressing buttons they can get reset all day. Once they decide to block or freeze up due to her crack head like rush down, you can set them up for command grab setups. ect… ect,.
It just comes down to playing the person and getting used to there play style.

I’m pretty much convinced that unless Vergil is being silly and going for Helm Breaker, Jill can’t do anything to him because of Spiral Swords and standing H forcing a defense for like twelve seconds and completely ignoring FC dash mix-ups. He’s among the most unfair things I’ve ever seen, and yes, I know I’m late to the party. Anyone experienced enough in the match-up to share any good tips?

@Gangie tbh i just avoid vergil until he makes a mistake or whiffs a move. Also don’t call assists unless you want both characters to die lol.

You can’t do anything. He’s perfectly safe until he runs out of meter. A well placed somersault will help him stop, but other than that, there’s nothing else you can really do but block. A random MGS might help too. Also, get a feel on how much your opponent likes to teleport, and punish him. I think you can somersault his recovery. Yes, it’s very unfair.

@NonSexualRice -
I have seen you play against alot of zeros, some dooms, firebrands, ammy ect.
I would love to see some gameplay from you against power shells like
morrigan doom, hulk haggar, dorm doom, zero may cry ect. Do you have any footage like that or can direct me to those vids. You and Paulo are the highest level Jills that we have, and Paulo has non jill teams for POOR matchups. Do you use a different team against Jills bad matchups. I love Jill but against some characters Jill become such a liability and useless IMO.

Anyone have some suggestions for the wolverine matchup? I particularly have problems against wolvie backed by plasma beam. I know the obvious stuff like somersault dive kicks but getting any pressure on a good wolverine seems very hard. His normals have massive priority and I can’t seem to get a good feel on the matchup.

F*#K Zero… That is all :wink: