Super Turbo Training Mode for PC, with HUD / hitbox / input display + cheat

DNGR_S_PAPERCUT · 2011-08-04T04:09:42.000Z

blitzfu:

The throwbox tool is so much fun, I’m like a kid in a candy store.:clapdos: There’s so much stuff I want to explore, but just off the top of my head, I checked a few things out. BTW if anybody has any requests to capture images of some throws, lemme know.

Typhoon vs Oichio and SPD:

ObviouslyTyphoon beats Oichio, but surprisingly, not by much. About the same difference as Blanka vs Dhalsim, thanks in part to Honda’s narrow white box. This is assuming that throws in ST go for the white box and not the axis. I’m pretty sure they go for the white box, as the ranges feel right in practice mode. I made sure that I was close enough for the yellow box to touch the white box, but no where near the axis, and it still throws.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1271/typhoonoichiospd.png

Huge difference, almost 3 or 4 times as much as Typhoon vs Oichio.

I fucking knew it. Scumbag capcom. there is no point in even trying a block string that will get you in a sweet spot. The only semi reliable way of typhooning honda is with the sako walking 360.

blitzfu · 2011-08-04T05:05:05.000Z

DNGR_S_PAPERCUT:

I fucking knew it. Scumbag capcom. there is no point in even trying a block string that will get you in a sweet spot. The only semi reliable way of typhooning honda is with the sako walking 360.

Heh, yeah. Sakos were created especially for Honda LOL.

oldschool_BR · 2011-08-04T06:50:06.000Z

blitzfu:

And of course, Shoryukens are ground throwable, and those throw boxes prove it.

You you sure? Ken’s Fierce one actually avoids ticks! B2SPD found it out while messing around with Dammit’s hitbox lua cos of the Wiki.

blitzfu:

Did I miss something? What’s wrong with Balrog’s throw in ST?

Say you pick Ryu. Any time you press towards or backwards and any button but Jab or Short, he will attempt a throw. You may be at the other side of the screen, but your Ryu will still attempt to throw, albeit in vain. At any distance, he will try it, and when you are finally in range, you will succeed. Balrog’s throw is not like that. When you press Strong or Fierce from full screen away, he does not try to throw. You do not get that big throwbox of his trying to grab his poor enemy, you just get the normal. You keep approaching and it still does not come out. Until, at a certain distance, the box appears if you press Strong, but not Fierce. It looks like you are closer than needed to grab, but if you step a pixel back, no throwboxes will appear, and you will not throw. If you approach the opponent a bit more, both throwboxes come out, and you can hold with either Strong or Fierce.

Born2SPD · 2011-08-04T07:37:48.000Z

In WW, Honda had a very big throwable (white) box, just as big as Zangief’s. In CE they lowered it to how it still is in ST. IMO they exaggerated a bit…

blitzfu · 2011-08-05T12:39:13.000Z

oldschool_BR:

You you sure? Ken’s Fierce one actually avoids ticks! B2SPD found it out while messing around with Dammit’s hitbox lua cos of the Wiki.

Those pics are Jab Shoryus. But yeah, I tried to find a white box on Ken’s Fierce Shoryu, nothing. It would be nice to verify the airborne data in YBH, but if it’s true, that’s amazing, it seems to be completely invincible to ground throws until the recovery! Nice find.

oldschool_BR:

Balrog’s throw

Yeah, I can verify that, Balrog’s yellow box, for some weird reason, only appears at close range. I couldn’t get it to appear any farther than this:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4537/balrogc.png

zass · 2011-08-05T21:51:58.000Z

this is all so amazing. Really bringing the next level of understanding to the game. If there is a way to step through the throwbox tool frame by frame, that would be amazing to really narrow down full understanding

papasi · 2011-08-05T22:09:32.000Z

P = pause
` = advance 1 frame

just use tab to go into the menu and check out the input general submenu to see the other hotkeys

SuaSponte75th · 2012-03-20T06:51:08.000Z

Megaupload is down. Any chance of someone re upping this?

TheBastard · 2012-03-20T17:30:42.000Z

[created for the ***]

MEGAUPLOAD - Super Turbo Training Mode

Just download, unzip, put ssf2t.zip in the roms folder, and run.

From the readme:

Double click any of the following to run mame with the corresponding lua script:

1-scrolling-input-display.bat
2-heads-up-display.bat
3-hitbox-only.bat

You can modify mame-rr.ini to customize mame

If you don’t want mame windows to be maximized, set

maximize 0

If you want to run mame full screen, set

window 0

You can use the period [.] key to toggle the fps info at the top right on/off

Press TAB to go into mame menu

Enable cheat in the “cheat” submenu

Set input/stick/pad mapping in the “Input (this game)” submenu

lua script hotkeys mapping can be set in the “Input (general)” submenu

Use MediaFire:

http://www.mediafire.com/

jamiejame911 · 2012-03-22T08:24:28.000Z

I would also like this.

papasi · 2012-04-07T02:55:42.000Z

updated 1st post with download link

jamiejame911 · 2012-07-01T13:52:09.000Z

Thanks again for this. Been putting it to good use!

JGD_CHAOS · 2013-05-22T10:01:00.000Z

Hi

Located the legit link, all good

Thanks

SALADCAT · 2015-05-01T07:06:00.000Z

Got it running perfectly in OSX using the latest version of wineskin.

just throw the whole mamerr folder from the above link into the wineskin wrapper’s “c:” drive and run it. Once you’ve loaded the rom, hit tab and from there go to “Input(general)” > “user interface” > and set a hotkey for the lua interface (it’s set to left ctrl by default but on my mac left ctrl is read as “ctrl”).

hit the hotkey you just set, and choose the script you want.

KungFoo · 2016-03-24T22:26:30.000Z

Just got this working. Its amazing!!!

For people trying to get it to work.

1 Download link in the OP and unzip

2 Download 11.6K KB / 11.3MB MAME ROM Super SFII Turbo US (I believe I got it on emuparadise site)

3 Create folder ‘roms’ and add the zip file ROM here

4 Click on the BAT files for different versions

5 Once in, hit TAB for all options including controls. Sound only comes on when you add in some coins so dont be alarmed at no sound

DominicanPower · 2016-05-31T03:24:38.000Z

I can’t get the buttons to map properly

mattmonster1991 · 2016-06-22T21:56:07.000Z

is there training modes like this for the alphas or 3s? or is st the only sf game like this

eltrouble · 2016-06-23T05:05:35.000Z

mattmonster1991:

is there training modes like this for the alphas or 3s? or is st the only sf game like this

There’s a training mode in HDR. It’s basic but gets the job done. I hear tell there’s custom training mode scripts made available online but I’m not sure where they are anymore.

Otherwise, playing offline on an emulator and just practicing combos and setups against a P2 is fairly effective for learning timing. Fortunately this game isn’t heavy on “tech”, so you can learn a lot about how to play SF2 just by playing it against other players of similar skill.

DominicanPower · 2016-06-23T09:22:01.000Z

mattmonster1991:

is there training modes like this for the alphas or 3s? or is st the only sf game like this

I have training mode for both alphas and 3s.

DesertFox · 2016-09-12T19:01:34.000Z

All of the links in the OP are dead.