Going off the word of people who were there (i think i read this in one of Zass’s posts), Toutanki was a beast during SBO and killed off many teams by himself. He almost took out Kurahashi except he messed up an SPD. So kinda flies in the face of your theory. Nice try.
For sure a top T-Hawk is very watchable, but it’s also a legitimite threat if he gets in and doesn’t mess up execution wise. It’s not like T-Hawk has no hope of winning, unlike Sean in 3s who never gets any play.
This conversation is still going? Why?
Let people choose who they want. Discussion over.
Anyone ever heard of doing supers with no full meter befor? today i was playing the japanese version of ST on kaillera and i was 2 rush punches away from getting my meter full, but i thought i was only one away, so i rush punched (cant remember if it was kick or punch version into super to try trick my opponent to attack after my rush punch, and anyway the super came out even though my meter was only like 95% full, then after the super came out, it charged up the meter to 100% so i could do another super again.
Anyway p1 was honda i was p2 with rog and it was on the deejay stage, i tried re-creating it but i couldnt, just posting incase anyone knows how this happen.
When did people not allow people to choose a character? sounds more like you’re trying to dictate the topic we talk about. Pretty ironic statement you just made.
T Hawk can put himself in a situation where he can do incredible amounts of damage at zero risk; and once he’s in that position, he can remain there until you are dead. This is a very difficult thing to do, which is why very few T Hawk players get to the finals or win, but the possibility of the above situation always remains. And of course you don’t need cpu reflexes to pull this off, but it does take a good amount of skill and consitency.
I just wanna add to this conversation on two fronts:
When I use Cammy, I almost never get put into that mental freeze point where I think, “Oh shit, what should I do now?” like I do with other characters. And with the other characters, I die a lot of times as a result of that affliction. So in other words, playing Cammy, for me, IS playing to win. I used a higher tier character that I like to use at Evo East and got mopped up. I no doubtedly would have done far better with Cammy. Cammy gives me the best chance to win. There’s nothing more to it than that.
Graham,DSP and NKI please answer the following question!
I’ve been a loyal Sega Saturn player for like 10+ years and enjoy fighting games on it because I really enjoy their pads for fighting games. Back then the Saturn was the 2d power monger that created the quote “2D FOREVER”. My question is what is so horribly bad about Super Turbo on Saturn as I’ve been out of the scene for quite a while and how it differs from the Arcade? I tried playing AE on my xbox with a saturn pad and a magic box but there’s lag(ie button delay) so I went back to saturn as the controller response was much better. I did notice the sprites on the saturn were WAY bigger. Does it affect the total outcome of the game?
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qft on so many levels(is also asian^_). even with the most basic characters, breaking down their game to a point where you’re THAT comfortable takes a while.
I think i’m being misunderstood, so I’m going to try to explain what I was trying to say in my previous post. I appologize for any misunderstandings or anyone feeling insulted, it was not my intent.
I know the post has a negative feel to it, but I’m not trying to discredit anyone or say that anyone is bad.
Key words being …player is better than…player… Ryu and thawk were just used as examples, and can be changed to any character.
Again, thawk was just an example, and can be replaced with pretty much any low tier character. This was meant to discredit anyones reason for picking a low tier character to be the best who uses that character when the best 200 players don’t use said character.
Anything said before this had nothing to do with Toutanki, or anyone else specifically.
This was referring to Toutanki, but wasn’t meant to be in a negative way. Firstly, single elimination only cares about the best player, so semi finals doesn’t mean all that much. Being SBO in a way negates that, as getting that for at such a prestigous tournament would mean something, assuming you aren’t getting carried by your team, which I didn’t mean to imply was the case. I meant that you should ask questions like that to determine if making semi finals meant he was good. Based on the response I got, it would seem that he is, unless everyone he went against just didn’t know how to fight against him. I’m unaware if he has previously been in SBO or other events and shown consistancy, but if not this may have been a fluke. I’m not saying that it was a fluke. It might have been a fluke that he lost, maybe he’ll come back next year and win SBO. I’m just saying that it might be. The same goes for everyone’s first placing.
The rest of the post really doesn’t apply, was mostly me rambling.
If the T.Hawk player was just playing T.Hawk because he was bottom tier, maybe. If because he thought T.Hawk was good, not likely. If because he only understands how to use T.Hawk, no. In other words, how good he is with T.Hawk doesn’t have much to do with it.
Jchensor is a good example of someone playing low tier for the right reasons(assuming Cammy is low here, i’m not fluent on ST tiers). He probably wouldn’t have gotten as far as he did at evo if he tried to use Uber-Sim.
I’m not 100% sure on this, but I think I remember reading that Sega Saturn Super Turbo is one of the closest home versions of ST to the Arcade version. So if you are practicing for an arcade, then it is good.
Again, I’m not sure, so getting confirmation from someone who is is a good idea.
Im half asian myself james lol, but yeah maybe thats a bit much. I dunno though when i go to my asian side family gatherings when they are all facing away from me for a picture i cant tell anyone apart =P but in either case you’re right that was stupid of me to assume that has anything to do with their actions in game.
Still only mentions the bigger sprites on Sega Saturn nothing else but thanks for looking anyways!
actually it mentions that guile gets his cps1 chain back. that’s a pretty big difference.
You are absolutely insane if you think anyone could get on Mayakon’s/Toutanki’s level that easily. Sounds to me like you’ve never seen those two play (Toutanki was winning convincingly at SBO), or you just have no idea what it takes to get good with a character.
Haven’t confirmed this myself, but apparently the Saturn version also has slowdown on certain stages, like DeeJay’s.
I know this is has probably been posted before (can’t find it, if it has), but who are all the players on the Insanity DVD.
Also on another note, this topic is becoming quite dry. This game is very balanced, and has been proven time and time again, that any character can get wins.
People pick characters for all different reasons, you can’t just say its for this reason or that reaon nothing else. And there is no right or wrong reasons either. People pick characters they like, characters they understand and play play well with, and characters to set themselves apart.
I probably enjoy using Blanka the most, even though Bison (dic) is without a doubt my best character, that won’t stop me using Blanka. Doesn’t matter if he low tier. Its like some people on here actually want this game to turn into another 3s, a game that is largely dominated by a few characters. I know’ll you see mainly top tier characters take ST tourneys but at least you see a fair amount of variation in the top spots.
And Zaelar saying just switching from a top tier character to a low tier character and suddenly be the best if you was one of the best with a top tier character is nonsense. Thats just wrong. Maybe that would be true if all the characters were very similar, but there not. Being good with Rog doesn’t make you excellent with hawk.
Like I said, nothing good can come from this topic.
Agreed!
I am all for people expressing opinions (thats cool). However, carrying on & on about it is not the best use of this thread.
It is really difficult to win an argument of opinion over the net. We have ALL learned this.
Ultimately, arguing a pointless topic ruins a thread. We have seen it many times on SRK.
This topic (about Japanese character selection):
Which is what this thread is about, right?
Can we go back to the great discussions about Vega, Balrog, and Dhalsim before all of this started?
That type of information is what makes this thread so great.
about character selection,
i dont know about you but i personally find charge characters really boring to play, having to stay charged most of the time becomes tedious after a while, i like having the freedom to just walk around and dp whatever comes at me (with ken/ryu) or just to stick a limb in their face with dhalsim
i would say dhalsim followed by ken are the two funnest characters to play, for me anyway
you don’t have to stay charged to play a charge character.
Guile for instance likes to sonic boom -> mixup
I also hardly keep a charge with Blanka, I’m too busy pulling shenanigans to keep a charge.
you’re probably playing the chars wrong if you’re trying to keep charge the whole match instead of going for the win.
well if you paid attention to my post i said “having to stay charged most of the time”, i dont know where you’re getting this “keep charge the whole match” business from…
on an unrelated note, i dont see why you feel the need to quote my post when it’s directly above yours