Not necessarily, it’s not known if Goutetsu ever used the raging demon move…yes he mastered the satsui no hado but he never let it consume him like Akuma did, he might be a bit stronger but due to having more experience from his wisdom and knowledge in martial arts etc…imo.
Goutetsu is dead. What’s next Dan’s dad? Chunli’s dad?
Move forward, people.
Does the Maki Hype Train have an arrival date yet?
Yes, Chun-Li’s dad makes an epic return to her life. He merely vanished Sherlock Holmes style making everyone think he died.
He’ll rep the thigh…No just no, haha!
They played the cast safe in SF4 which made perfect sense. But with Ultra’s large cast and SF x Tk helping bring more characters out from hiding
people are more familiar with the SF universes varied cast members.
I hope for at least 5 dormant characters to make a triumphant return (Charlie is leading the way so hopefully 4 more)
Any guess when we might get some more tidbits? Not sure of what events are coming up for Capcom to show off characters.
I’m hoping they do their reveals Killer Instinct Style and not that lame SFxTk style. Show a trailer and a teaser for the next. reveal 1 a month (which should be perfect with 16 characters and a 2016 release)
I think we can delve into history more than we already have, but*** without*** digging up another hadou user. I get that capcom could make him different, but really, Goutetsu coming back would be potentially problematic:
1-How did he survive? Where’s he been all this time? Holy crap, Akuma sucks at killing people
2-How different can you make him without straying from of what it means to be a Hadou /Anatsuken fighter? If he’s playable in a flashback, non-canon mode, then you can’t really make him better than Akuma and Gouken NOW (Akuma alone has waaaaaaaay surpassed what anyone could previously do and he’s formed new techniques). We’ve seen all sorts of variants with their style through Ryu, Ken, Sakura, Gouken, and heck Dan and Sean. He could have different mechanics like how Gouken was a charge shoto, but after awhile aesthetically, it gets tiresome. God-help us if they ever decide to bring back Goutetsu and bring back the concept of Gouken’s daughter.
I’m a storyline and lore buff for all the games I play, but I’d rather play Rufus or Fuerte than another dug up Anatsuken character. This is the world warrior, there’s a ton of amazing characters from a design standpoint and playstyle standpoint. I don’t want to keep seeing people in similar looking Gis doing similar moves, with storylines mining similar aspects.
Capcom’s made some interesting characters that are unplayable that could be rather interesting. If we want to pull more characters from existing characters’ backstories, there a couple places we could go. I’m not saying it’s a good idea to do this when we could make new characters, but it’s just a point on how it’s totally possible to expand on the world without needing more shotos:
-Charlie and Guile aren’t the only ones who learned Charlie’s style. If we’re desperate to get more background, bam, who else learned? Guile evolved the fastest, but what if others who struggled incorporated different martial arts to make their overall style stronger.
-Delta Red is rife for the picking. I wanted Ultra’s 5th character to be Luwanda. She wouldn’t play anything like Cammy since she never was taught the Shadaloo style. Wolfman, McCoy and any other random member they could throw in could potentially be interesting too.
-Viper had other partners who were killed over the course of this Blece saga investigation. We know of the scrapped concept of Smart Raven (the pompadour guy in a similar looking suit that one of the Capcom dev blogs showed off)
-Tons of Illuminati/Secret Society characters could be underlings to Urien or Gill. That corner of SF is barley touched upon.
-Shadaloo has a ton of members, but only a few have been seen, the 4 Heavenly Kings (Boxer, Claw, Sagat, Dictator) there could be elite grunts or even any of the crap-ton of Shadaloo Dolls to select.
-Speaking of Shadaloo, there was the ooooooold concept that Bison had a master and trained with 2 other students, sooooo there’s that.
-If we really want more, there’s a ton of ex-Mad Gear members just wandering around who could get boosted up for a modern generation.
-Slammasters was a lot of fun and is part of the SF universe, there’s an entire series just waiting to get resurrected, and they could easily make more characters.
Am I saying Capcom needs to do all this or any of this? NO. I’m just saying we can do so much more, but if we really wanna see Goutetsu, I’d rather animated movie, or storymode flashbacks. While Ryu and Ken are main characters, we still have Chun li, Cammy, Guile and the whole Anti-Shadaloo squad. It’s like Resident Evil where there’s a few groups of “Main Characters”; RE 1/Anti-Wesker side, the RE2/Leon and Claire side or even the Chris/BSAA side.
We’ve done enough developing for the Anatsuken side’s history, if anything, it’s time to make some jumps, move forward, have Akuma just stop messing about in the Shadows. Have that hinted-at climactic battle between him and Ryu. Heck Dan’s developed more than Akuma. Dan stopped looking for vengeance and went into doing the self promoting thing, then reunited with Blanka and “mentored” Sakura and now the three of them have carved out their own little path. It’s not grand, but it’s something.
Y’know, I used to say I didn’t like Shotos, but with the adaptations, and Assassin’s Fist, I think they can be interesting. I’ve had a change of heart. Capcom just needs to move the chess pieces forward in my opinion.
All this talk about Goutetsu might give Capcom the wrong idea that it would be okay to put a bunch of shotos in SFV. Especially if the cast is only starting at 16, it would be a disaster. Ryu, Ken…that’s it. (I know both are auto includes or else I would be fine with just one). Maybe much later when the roster expands greatly the next shoto could appear and it could be Goutetsu.
So much yes to this. I want to play as one other Delta Red character. They look like a very interesting group and it wouldn’t be hard to tie them into Illuminati.
Ryu, Ken, Akuma. No more.
Those 3 are also in 3rd Strike, so it is kind of justified.
Goutetsu… as much as I would like to see this character in action, he just doesnt fit and would screw with the story way too much.
Sakura?
Stahp.
Fuck Akuma.
As I said, those 3 are in 3rd Strike and it looks like the story is taking place around that time. I wouldnt be surprised to see him again.
Street fighter “story” is and always has been a waste of time. It’s never been particularly good and shouldn’t be informing ANY choices in regards to character selection. Capcom should put in characters that are fun to play. That’s it.
Including a character because of “story” is silly and certainly won’t make the game any better or more fun.
Having a fun/good character with a story still is better than having a fun/good character without.
Also there is no excuse for shitty story telling in this day and age.
A fighting game is the last place I’ll look for good storytelling. It’s a genre that can work without shoeing in an excuse plot. Most of SF story doesn’t even come from the games themselves.
I’d like to think Ryu, Ken and Akuma are SF staples and it’s a good bet we’ll see them in SF5.
From a purely visual perspective I’d be very curious to see quite a few characters return just to see how they look in this new engine. Gouken for example I think would look pretty rad. I think Akuma will look great also. Sagat and Vega too. Zangief is one large character I think will look fantastic in this engine and I’d also like to see Dhalsim make a return.
I never felt Guile looked ‘right’ in SF4 so it’ll be interesting to see their take on Charlie this time around.
I’ve never quite understood the fascination for SF’s story after SF2. I’ve put together more coherent descriptive sentences whilst tripping off my balls than Capcom have lashed together to narrate the absurd personalities attached to the franchise’s gaggle of characters. I actually think they might hold the crown for the industry’s worst narrative. It’s just simply awful. Thankfully it doesn’t matter.
One thing I do want to see a return of is the busted up portraits of your opponent post-match. That shit was awesome when they still bothered to do it. What was the last game we saw that in? Third Strike I assume?
**Shoto Fighter V: Shotokan Stories
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This guy seriously asking for lame, ugly, old, and washed up Goutetsu to be in this? Especially over the chance to have fresh new characters, not one that hardly anyone who doesn’t pay attention to the story actually knows exist?
I would actually like to have Goutetsu. Only because of legendary.
I rather have Ryu and Akuma and leave Ken out.
Ditto. Akuma’s Shin state seems like a better candidate for his v-trigger than just giving Ken a fire mode.