Street Fighter 5 spoilers

Is there a better resolution of that calendar? Have any other 12 doll pics? I’ve seen all the ones on that fansite also with the drawing of Gouken’s daughter and also have the 12 dolls chibi style that I think was pulled from some Capcom artbook.

That’s probably because Udon has to cram 40+ characters into 18 issues (that’s the amount of characters and issues before SF3 starts. That’s less than one half issue per character, and that’s not even including supporting characters like Eliza, grumpy surly Kei, or the Dolls!). The Street Fighter storyline is simply way too massive and also unfocussed for one comic book series to do without it feeling cramped. (I don’t really mean that as a criticism so much as the SF storyline in the game canon really didn’t focus on one thing too much and consisted of many different branches). …and it makes me realize that 16 pages a month is not a lot of pages.

I’m still trying to figure out how on earth Udon will be able to cram in a faithful representation of Final Fight with such a small amount of space. I’d be amazed if they pulled it off because I seriously am thinking it’s impossible right now given the size of the SF storyline and the amount of space Udon has to work with in the comic book format.

My own dream thing would be of course something starring the twelve Dolls as more than just Cammy’s jobbers, but that would practically require an entire comic series in and of itself, and if Udon were to pull that off, where would the room for the other 30 street fighter characters who haven’t really done much yet go?

Regarding Doll art (muahahaha, silly Capcom and their wasted potential): Yea, I have more, but all my book marks are on another comp so I can’t access them right now. Maybe in 5 hours or so if I don’t forget. Don’t have a higher res pic of that calender, though. It’s a merchandise pic for advertising purposes so there isn’t a higher res one around. Wonder if I can import that calender, but this is pretty vague stuff here…

That’s why Udon needs to do a Final Fight miniseries.

I think about 2-4 issues should do the trick.

And then, what of Maki? I must be the only person on the planet who has played Final Fight 2.

Hmm, I wonder if Udon has the rights in the work to do spin off stuff? Spin off as in doing works focusing on a specific character (Like Cammy Gaiden or something).

Your neighborhood friendly reminder.

Getting back on topic…

I liked the issue overall, although it did seem a bit even more cramped than previous ones (probably because this one had two and a half reasonably sized fight scenes instead of one). Heh, it feels so early for a fight with big boss M. Bison (ditto for the upcoming fight with Akuma when I think about it) but given the layout and schedule of the arcs, it had to happen this issue. Not much room to have things build up over the span of many issues, after all.

Grumpy surly Kei (doing grumpy surly things! Like complaining about grades and Sakura and Karin beating each other up!) is probably my favorite character. When will she get her own fight scene? :wink:

All enjoyment of Kill-Bill-ish intros aside, the Dolls in the Doll scene really seemed to exist mainly to just make Cammy look good. But in retrospect, if I only had one page to do things with and had to appeal to the majority fanbase of Street Fighter (as opposed to say, the fan whims of a four-headed dragon that has delusions of grandeur), that’d have been what I’d have done for that one page, too. Besides, any real storyline involving the Dolls is supposed to happen with the next arc.

Regarding mini-series, if they were to make a series for the Dolls (which I think would currently be way too risky a business venture for anyone to make, frankly), my project I’m doing would lose any semblance of originality (…what little it had in the first place). …come to think of it, I’m not sure if Final Fight would have enough fanbase to justify a comic of its own, either, and using it as a mini-series in the actual Street Fighter comic to take up entire issues would make the comic seem slightly… I dunno, unfocused unless it could find a way to tie into the other storylines (big problem with the Final Fight side of the Street Fighter universe is that it’s plot doesn’t really interconnect much with the rest of the SF universe, even if the characters have a lot of relationships with various SF chars)

Speaking of whims of a four-headed dragon that has delusions of grandeur, I guess I’d better get off my lazy ass and post the links. I think these guys (Miyabi and Tokaiser) together with Ataru make up some kind of Doll doujinshi producing fan circle or something.

http://www12.plala.or.jp/miyabi-ya/ (two top links)

http://www.honet.ne.jp/~tokaiser/index.html (rakugaki.htm link)

All I gotta say is, crap DAMMIT this was a DAMN good issue.

It made up for #4’s lack of action, bigtime.

this was a pimpin issue … would have liked it better if sagat ended ryu there ! but then ryu would be dead and what would happen then … :mad:

Cool issue. I like what the writer is doing. He is very consistant as well as the art. I thought that the street fighter comic was going to bad when first came out. But I was wrong and it actually was solid.

I guess Charlie ain’t coming back. However I can tell that Bison will be back.

Damn straight, hawt Cammy= satisfied customer yet again

I was quite surprised at how Chuckles tore up that cliff(?) with his Somersault Justice too. And I was half-expecting Sagat to c.fierce when he first charged at Ryu XD

I got #5 today I thought it was pretty good, looking forward to an issue where Sagat has a real fight with Ryu though, it seems like Udon kind of merged Sagat’s personality trade from Alpha 1/2 with 3.
In 1&2 he was a hateful & vengeful man but in Alpha 3 he woke up & realised that anger would not be his path to victory, if you get what I mean he was his honorable self mixed with an angry & more short-tempered personna.

Anyway I’ll shut up I think Charlie, Guile, Chun-Li & Bison parts could have been better though, I liked the back-up story.

I think Sagat was about to bust out the invincible low fierce but held back at the last minute. lol

To be honest though, it was pretty obvious that Sagat was about to uppercut Ryu for making the rooooookie mistake of jumping so soon after the round started. Didn’t even set it up or anything. I think Ryu got all greedy, thinking Sagat didn’t have an uppercut (cuz he didn’t in SF1 right?) but Sagat had developed the Tiger Uppercut move already. But now i dunno, cuz maybe Ryu saw that Sagat was gonna do some crazy new uppercut so maybe next time he won’t be so jump-happy.

Or maybe i’m just reading way too much into it all …

You have a good point there I don’t believe Sagat did have the Tiger Blow/Uppercut in the 1st tournament (Well he’s never used it on me in SF1), but he still had the Tiger Knee/Crush, may not be the best counter for air attacks but it still works pretty efficiently & he had the Tiger Knee/Crush in the 1st tournament so Ryu would have still known he could counter an air attack really, heat of the moment?:smiley:

sf 1 sagat’s move list

high tiger shot

tiger knee.

I just wonder why did they decide to pace the comic so fast. I mean, US comics are usually fast, yeah. But come on! Theyll get in SF3 in what, a year? Thats just plain rushing it. They shouldve allowed breathing time. No need to cram characters every issue. Only really whiny fanboys would complain about “Character X or Y not appearing yet”. They shouldve used 12, 18 issues for each arc.

I guess “character development” is not something SF writers care for.

My thoughts exactly can’t wait for #6 to come out.

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You’d be surprised at the number of “Where’s Ibuki?” or such posts I’ve seen on other message boards.

But I still agree that at the very least, a doubling of the issues for each arc would have been preferable. 6 issues (18 total for SFA through SF2) is really too little for even the main cast (for all the SF1 and SFA characters, that’s less than half an issue per character). Since Udon seems to want to give even supporting characters their dues (Eliza’s already gotten more development and space time than I believe most playable SF chars will get. Actually, grumpy surly Kei probably has, also), they really could have used all the space they could get.

I’m not sure if it’s a matter of shunning character development so much as just an unfortunate miscalculation in space planning. From what little space they’ve had, I can tell that they’re trying to cram some character development in there.

Well, if you step away from the undying love we all have for Street Fighter, it is ultimately a comic based on a video game.

The general public’s view of both is that they’re for kids and nerds, (Which is actually quite true, just look at the people who post here, myself included…:bluu: )

I’m guessing that they planned the book not knowing if they were going to sell a single copy, let alone it being the smash hit it is. Relatively speaking. (We’re not talking G1 revival here…)

Still, it’s a great book and I look forward to seeing more.

Speculation: Maybe they’re going so fast because Capcom’s planning another SF which should come out right around when Udon finishes up SF3…

Udoneko: clear your throat once for yes, twice for no and three times for "Maybe… :wink: "

Hold on Tiamat, did you say that all the events in the SFA series through SF2 WILL BE COVERED IN JUST 18 ISSUES??? I’m interested in seeing how that will turn out.

Not sure IF Capcom will be releasing anothe SF game anytime soon. Last time I talk with them, I know they were not too confident in 2D fighters… but I know the Anniversary Hyper SF release has proven to be otherwise.

As for the pacing of the story goes, we are trying to maintain a balance between action, story, and character development. For the first issue, we have to establish quite a bit of things to solidify the “universe” and the “players”. We (everyone here, including myself!) have all been HARD CORE SF fans that we probably would not mind (and would like to!) seeing the story span out longer and touch on every detail. However, for the general comic audience, if we do a story spanning 18 issues, that is going to be one and a half year long that could be a little too stretched out to follow through.

Given the amount of character and material that we can do, ideally, we want to do everything, everyone. But we have to be realistic. We have the license for 3 years initially. So we have to plan and see what we can achieve in this period of time first.

It is only the first 6 months, and the project is still rather new. The first arc we want to lay down the map. Then we can start building houses and buildings on it … I just put together the TPB files. And I am happy looking thru all the pages as one volume. If you go back and read the whole first arc, you will realized what we had done for the past year (starting from developing till end of issue 6) is all wrapped up tightly in this little trade paperback. If this is going to be a TV series, this first 6 issue is meant to be the PILOT of a syndication show… and starting with issue 7, for about 8 to 10 issues at least, it will be season 1.

Yes, we have decided to extend a bit between end of first arc and the SF tournament. And all depends on how sales are on #7 onward, we do have plans on doing some one shot stories that will focus on individual characters and will give the character more development on his/her own.

18 issues was the current plan, last I heard. Although of course, these things aren’t set in stone.

16 to 20 pages a month really doesn’t let you accomplish much, these days. At least, not when you’re dealing with something not designed for the format. If you were starting a new comic book series from scratch, it wouldn’t be too bad (so long as sales let you keep going), but starting with an established licensed (especially one as large as Street Fighter) means you have a lot of stuff you have to cram in as fast as possible. If they were to devote just one issue to each character, that’d be like, more than forty issues just to get to SF3, which is more than three years! Which… now that Udoneko has pointed it out, is longer than the license Udon has :eek: