capcom only needs to implement an improved ggpo netcode and its done!
So learn to red parry. 123 also has crappy range. Itâs only real advantages as a way to activate is that it builds good meter, and has good startup. So maybe keep yourself a little spaced out when Yun has 90% meter or is waking up, and this overpowered tool might become a little easier to deal with.
Honestly man, I think you need to spend more time in the character forums, because every time you post in this thread, it just exposes how much more work you need to put in the game, instead of being a reasonable criticism of 3sâs balance.
Dude, I all ready pointed out that you need to Red Parry that. Why are you angry about that?
Iâm trying to make sense of the asshole reply left: I write that Yun is probably the best character in the game, he builds meter fast (everyone will agree with this I think) and 123 is safe, and youâre right they like doing it on wakeup, but also after a Dive Kick making it a requirement to Red Parry that shit if you havenât parried the Dive Kick. You get mad and re-iterate what I all ready pointed out (need to Red Parry) and offered an incredibly generic tip (space yourself) and then try to tear me down a peg. Thatâs basically what you wrote.
Why get so mad dude? You donât see me getting all pissed off and writing âRoar! I disagree with this manâs statement! Iâm going to call him a scrub and insinuate he plays baby games! Iâll feel self-empowered after insulting him, thus raising my status among my peers.â
Srsly dude.
Who says Iâm mad? Iâm just saying every time you post in this thread, you make a better case for you being an inexperienced player than whatever it is youâre actually trying to prove. Itâs obnoxious coming into this thread and reading someone post about how 123 makes geneijin overpowered.
You can write off the idea of being conscious of your spacing when its likely that a Yun player will want to do geneijin, but really man, it shouldnât be that easy for anyone to be at point blank range on you. How often are Yun players able to do 123 against you per game anyway?
Besides all that, even if Yun couldnât activate geneijin off 123, he can activate it off a million other things. What huge difference does 123 make?
Are you 5? You realize you canât just guess at inflection from text right? Nothing he said was angry. Youâre just hurt because basically no one agrees with you on anything.
And actually you are getting all pissed and writing âRoar! I disagree with this manâs statement! Iâm going to call him a scrub and insinuate he plays baby games! Iâll feel self-empowered after insulting him, thus raising my status among my peers.â
Thatâs exactly what youâre doing by saying that. Did you realize that? If you werenât you wouldnât have bothered to type about how the other person made you feel.
Relax.
Take a breath.
Itâs the internet. Iâll give you the benefit of the doubt but stop the the immediate hissy fits when someone thinks your opinion is worthless. Weâre (kind of) discussing a game, everyone wonât agree, accept that and move on.
There are many experienced players on these forums. They know a lot more than you. 3S is a game that rewards experience probably more than any other game I know. Accept that your perspective is extremely limited and move on. I know that I know very little compared to whatâs out there so I donât bother making suggestions. It bugs me to see other people who clearly donât know much either acting like their word should have weight.
Play the game, watch some videos, read, learn from more experienced players. No one is going to respect you if you just want to fight everyone who criticizes you.
Checks in
Hes STILL posting in here?
Meh maybe he will go away sooner or later.
Also didnât they say somewhere the game was going to run on version A? Is that confirmed or no?
It was a tweet from Ono saying theyâre basing the port on it.
Oh okay so that doesnât mean they are keeping it to version A exactly, at least as of now⌠Hopefully they keep it the same.
Thanks!
lol at 123 being safe. Yeah maybe in 2002 it was unbeatable.
You know what? If I came off as pissy, you have my apologies. I think the 123 is safe, at least from what Iâve seen. It just makes the match that much more frustrating, you know? He does Dive, 123, and you want to punish him, you want to do something to get in there. But then he activatesâŚIâve probably played very different Yun players then you though. I never said spacing is pointless, I know about that. It just seemed like you threw that in there to spite me, like a generic âjust block itâ reply.
I donât really have any peers here tbh. Iâm not writing shit trying to be funny or trolling people. I actually like conversation. But itâs hard to engage in that when thereâs so much trolling going on (for example Keninblackâs previous post). Some of you guys really need to look at your posts from another perspective and see how they might be perceived. Iâm not continuing this by the way, Iâm not trying to get the final word or anything, I just want to play 3S.
Alexander you donât have to be pushing a button at all times like in Vampire Savior. You got to see openings and mistakes your opponents make. learn there normals see whats safe get a general view of what their hit boxes are and punish. I know Qâs SA2 (High Damage and 2 taunts) and how far the distance is for it to connect fully (especially Alex) and its a lot farther then many scrubs believe.
Itâs cool dude you just need to know how to react to it. Ignore it. Consider what people say as it pertains to what you want to discuss, everything outside of that just put it behind you. Itâs the internet. Weâre all assholes.
I pray this game comes to us in good form and in good time. Online will always be online but if they can make it work just a bit better than ggpo itll be plenty playable. Especially because i think itll add a bunch of people to the player pool so all of us will have more local people to connect to. In GGPO when the ping is like 60 or lower its pretty good. Its definitely playable but of course its not like being in person.
from what ive played not many yun players are capable of actually getting decent damage off of GJ anymore except for top players like Issei, or othersâŚmost players now and days seem to just focus on either command grab or just pressure (just from these two options alone you can just decide either to jump when yun is running out of meter or just block depending on the type of player and/or previous situation), ive gotten out of MANY GJ setups because of this problemâŚYun with GJ is not as bad as everyone seems to think unless youâre playing a top playerâŚyou just have to think about the situation a lil bit and not press buttons (unless the character youâre using has a quick poke like yangs or chuns low lp)
but this is just my 2 cents on the yun with GJ stuff
A lot of top Yuns(or decent Yuns in general) activate whenever possible and wherever, and donât just aim for 123. There may not be a chance they land big damage from it, but they can always just build it back and try again. THAT is what makes Geneijin so good: they have multiple chances for Supers in a match, faster than the other two SAs.
Alexander: Thereâs a reason why we go âblock that shitâ: if youâre at a disadvantageous position, then blocking truly is the best option. Donât try to be flashy, because itâs already been decided for years that Yun during Geneijin will be faster and better than you for like six or so game seconds. Playing smart will always be the better decision than trying to pull off miracles.
this can be said of any top player though with any character (except maybe Sean ;p - sorry, Sean).
It WILL take some practice and good reaction time to parry his dive every time and stop Yun in his tracks. ButâŚremember he can land his short one right in front of you making him whiff and you anticipating a hit and then Yun can go crazy on you. ;p
Yun is tops for a reason, but he is not unbeatable at all. He is one of the easiest to stun (at least for me with Necro) and he doesnât take damage as well as most of the others.
Basically what Nica said, in the hands of TOP players of course he will be lethal.
lol 5 on 1.
I love this thread.
100% of the complaints in this thread are from players specifically using GGPO as their main source of Third Strike. Itâs been said before, but apparently it has to be beaten in your god damn skulls that this is probably the WORST form of the game available. The game is played at such a high speed online due to the fact that players just cant react. So for example, youâre playing a Yun online, he just continues to spam dive kick 123 because he knows you cant react to the dive to parry and he knows you cant red parry, what exactly is stopping him from doing it all day on you? Nothing, insert nerd rage --> FUCK DIS IâM GOING ON 3S FORUMS DIS IS SO OP FUCKIN BOOSHIT 123 SO OP OMGZZZZZZ⌠This is a common recurrence of players that watch a bunch of Youtube videos and feel like they have significant knowledge of the game and how it should and shouldnât be played.
Iâm sure you guys complaining think you know what 3s is all about, but you simply donât. Playing at Denjin Arcade or anywhere with Japanese cabs, itâs just surreal how different the two are. Everything is easier to see, things are slower, the game is fucking perfect offline. When you play at that setting, you understand why people are so passionate about this game, why they would drop hundreds of dollars just to travel to play at such arcades. But if you havenât and you just keep getting mashed and gayed online to things you cant react to, how are you supposed to be passionate about this game? The only thing pushing the players that use GGPO as their source is the fact that they know they love the game enough to travel to play at arcades, so they suck it up and endure how shitty it is online.
I fucking hate playing online, Iâm sure Nica K.O knows this by now as I complain to him every damn time we play :D. Itâs no secret that we all get mad, we just donât come crying about it on the forums because we understand that itâs possible to get past whats fucking us over offline.
I read this and lolâd because this is exactly whatâs been done to me. Granted Iâm not a good player but in person itâs not nearly as difficult to block it correctly/parry. But just spamming divekick in your face is suddenly very difficult to deal with online. GGPO is just an entirely different animal. Since the ping is variable parrying isnât entirely consistent from game to game either so itâs just a mess and any confidence you might have in things you do offline goes out the window. I mean sometimes I feel like a real chump until I realize iâm playing in a 90 ping game on ggpo and I donât care that much, iâm just trying out how some stuff feels. People who get angry about ggpo are of questionable sanity.
Iâve been killed by ibukiâs taunt like maybe 3-4 times. Guy was doing some kind of pretty cool cross up using her dash. It was a reset though but because he could choose which side to go each time and it was online it was very difficult to react to. After losing to it like 14 times though I started to get the timing down and it wasnât too hard to block. Offline I feel like that wouldnât really work⌠At least not for as long as he had me going in the beginning. Once I got the timing despite him changing up his patterns it still wasnât that scary, even online.
Why exactly is she somewhere on the lower side of middle tier? I guess some of the ways she wants to set things up can be obvious but when she gets going she can really mix it up canât she? Anyone who has experience against or with quality Ibukiâs care to explain? I mean certainly she getâs a huge advantage from online due to the latency and how much harder that makes it to react to ambiguous moves/mix-ups but Iâm talking offline here.
Still when the ping is like sub 50-60 it feels pretty good. Itâs better than just being able to play no one but the cpu.
lol, pherai and pretty much everyone else in this thread is right. if you complain about yunâs 123 that just shows how much of a noob you are.
at denjin if that gets blocked, it gets red parried either on the third hit or on the fourth (shoulder) if youâre dumb enough to risk it. Trying to activate geneijin off of a blocked 123 is a risky and bad option for Yun against good players. You risk being parried & punished when you could just find a safe time to activate and get free damage (knock down, from full screen, etc).
also, i know youâre primarily a ggpo player, but thatâs exactly the reason why you should stop talking. nobody cares about your ggpo specific issues, because ggpo sucks balls and itâs no way to learn/understand the real 3rd strike. youâre just getting everyone more annoyed at this point.
mmm Iâm glad 3S is ported online from the arcade, hopefully we get a god port at last.
I also understand 3S on GGPO can be frustrating but a better online would restore the fun there.
That said, anyone to support a color edit mode for 3SOE ?
Iâve been playing with the arcade emulated port for a few years now and, I belive this would be worth having on newer consoles⌠provided you can force your edits/original colours on your own screen.
here are a few previews from what I did along with LET here on srk.
Most stages are just tests, as itâs quite recent.
I wanted to make a video as it would be more way more demonstrating, but I doubt Iâll ever get the time and material for that.
Of course I edited tons of other things (like big protraits, vs screen, characters effects, etc).
Should I make a devoted thread here as capcom supposedly reads this ?