I wish I had the money for that, for so many reasons.
So until I become a millionaire, what exactly do I need for my whole situation right now? I’m so confused.
VGA to S-video? Where would I even get a VGA splitter? I can’t seem to find one.
Dude are you seriously looking for these?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10104 Splitters. take your pick I guess, no experience with any of these
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011407&p_id=4724&seq=1&format=2 VGA converter, has a passthrough so you may not need a splitter.
Both of these found on monoprice within like 2 minutes of googling. Come on smashbro flex those google muscles!
My Google-Fu has been lacking, this whole issue just makes me feel helpless lately.
But will this setup only work out for the Dreamcast? I heard people saying the old systems won’t work through composite, will that have changed because I’m running it differently than most?
I think they mean that 240p signal that most modern day capture cards hate, composite from consoles can be be 240p but also vanilla 480i and I don’t see how that will be rejected or anything. Seeing as you’d be pushing your consoles for which that will matter through that CHINESE UPSCALER and then through a VGA->S-video adapter the original signal will be totally irrelevant. And if the output signal from that adapter isn’t 480i I’ll eat my hat.
Personally for when I have my “all this retro crap with various signals” capture setup I’ll use a bt878 PCI card with a RGB powered splitter for RGB stuff, that feeds into a RGB->NTSC encoder and from there to the capture card, and for non-RGB (S-Video or Composite) stuff I’d just use my TV itself as a splitter if the console only does composite (has a built in splitter for a VCR) or if it has S-Video I’d use composite on my TV (no S-Video jack) and shove the S-Video through an extension cable into my capture card. Won’t work for anything not 15khz (such a DC VGA) but that’s fine with me.
Your setup seems slightly better but at the same time that’s a lot more crap to pile onto my setup.
Ok, I’m so in for this setup. 480i all day.
My only concern is for the audio which is all through 3.5 mm audio cables, I need a powered audio splitter (maybe?) the switchis already one unpowered device, not sure what’s gonna happen if I do one more thing to the audio with no power involved. (Relieved as hell I solved this issue though).
Finally got my computer chassis in! I’m currently trying to create a case similar to Jaxel’s mobile streaming rig. I’m cutting some corners and trying to economize the setup by using Keystone instead of neutrik. Overall, just the chassis, rack, and panels cost about 500 bucks. Not including cables, computer parts, and audio equipment!
EDIT: Lucky me! All my other stuff came in! It’s done.
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384261_10151176664857236_480190890_n.jpg
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I’ve ordered one, and will share my thoughts when it arrives 
Hello everyone, I’m having trouble with my recording setup.
Was following Jaxel’s guide and I opted to get the Avermedia USB HD DVR rather than a Hauppage, and was using a Decrescent HDMI to Component converter to try and capture. My setup therefore looks like this. However for some reason, it can only capture from my PS3, not my 360, and only for fighting games, as I was only able to capture footage from UMvC3 and P4A, but not any other games that I had tried (MGS Collection, ICO and SotC, Jet Set Radio). I thought maybe using and HDFury2 would solve the problem, but with my current setup, the HDFury2 doesn’t even seem to be powered when everything is running, even with the supplied power supply; it’s supposed to glow blue on it’s little window, but I see nothing.
Anyone have any experience with the Avermedia USB PVR? Is it a problem with that and I need to buy an entirely new capture device? Is my HDFury2 broken or is it just not getting enough power because of the splitter I’m using?
My setup looks like this, if it helps:
360/PS3 HDMI IN - Splitter
Output 1: HDMI OUT- Monitor
Output 2: HDMI OUT- HDFury2/Decrescent HDMI to Component Converter - Component In - Avermedia PVR USB - Laptop
Is your 360 set to 1080p and your PS3 too (though it doesnt upscale hence the fighters remaining 720p)?
Yup, they’re set. I just tried to capture DoA5 on my 360 just now, but it won’t work on my HDFury2, and I just get static screen with my Decrescent Converter.
Aha. Set to 1080p? What I was getting at is, I’m betting somewhere along the line your equipment doesn’t support 1080p. Try 720p.
So apparently this device is magical. What device? Why this device!
But why is it magical? Well, it strips HDCP. Yes, apparently it does just that. So I’m thinking PS3-splitter-this thing-back to HDMI-capture device. My one real issue is how to get the audio through my mixer than back out. This could be huge for quality! I’m hype.
EDIT:I could be totally off base here, apparently it’s DVI to HDMI, is there a HDMI to DVI? My idea is for it to go HDMI-DVI-HDMI. Damn, I should read things better.
EDIT2: This was wildly off base. I can’t seem to find a HDMI to DVI converter. Well there’s plenty of little cheapo pieces but those usually suck, right?
Most if not all chinese HDMI splitters strip HDCP. Most likely a secondary feature thats a happy accident.
That converter seems pretty silly. Any HDMI enabled console has the ability to output HDMI video, and then output RCA audio on it’s A/V port.
Also, HDMI and DVI use the same signal, You can go HDMI>DVI>HDMI>DVI>HDMI ad nauseum and it’ll work fine. I currently use an HDMI port in my patch panel for computer monitors to save space and use HDMI to DVI cables for the monitors. You dont need a complicated converter for HDMI and DVI.
So essentially you can do what that converter does, with your basic A/V cable and an HDMI to DVI cable.
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However, in my very specific setup, I don’t capture straight from the console, I go from the PS3 to a switch and then split that signal, it’s a hundred times easier. I’m looking to streamline everything, all the consoles on a few neat cables. However, if you can find me a HDMI splitter that loses no quality, adds no input lag and strips HDCP, send it my way it’ll simplify everything.
Then I’d need something that takes in HDMI and outputs HDMI and and red and white audio I can then put that red and white audio on my mixer (I can handle one more set of those on my mixer) and BOOM. Problem solved.
That converter you posted still requires you to have COAX or Digital SPIF signal to have audio, so either way your setup is null if you want to use that converter. Like I said, most if not all Chinese HDMI distribution amplifiers strip HDCP. I use them and have no noticeable input lag. Just ebay a chinese one.
Your problem is already solved, you’re just over complicating things by thinking a converter would be more convenient than a few extra cables. Just use an A/V cord for audio and HDMI for video. Why spend 50 bucks on a converter when you already have all the tools necessary to create your ideal setup? If wires bother you that much, go and get some split loom.
Because what you describe is NOT my ideal setup, I have 360/PS3 and soon WiiU to capture, if I can get a switch going rather than an individual console my life will be SO much easier in the long run. I understand that the converter won’t solve my problem, it’s not even really a problem, I’m just trying to get some higher quality video.
If I can find this ambiguous HDMI splitter that strips HDCP and doesn’t mess anything up in the process, and (if it exists Edit: It exists looking at different models now) get a HDMI to HDMI with analog audio converter, I can get better quality 720p stuff AND even potentially end up in the green by selling my current HDMI splitter and HDMI to component converter.
So the way I see it, if I switch out my current HDMI splitter and my HDMI -> component converter I can get better video and potentially MAKE money on this whole thing.
Edit: I’m not sure what to look for exactly when you say Chinese but this seems fairly generic: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-HD-1x2-Port-HDMI-Splitter-Amplifier-Repeater-3D-1080p-Female-/380462771799?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item5895592e57
Whatever floats your boat. I didnt even mention anything going against a switch setup, I merely said you should not try finding a converter for something that doesn’t need a converter. It’s obviously logical to want a video switcher for multiple consoles when streaming, I do it so your setup isn’t unfamiliar with me at all.
Like I said, your search has already been done and I mentioned a chinese distro amp will work fine, ANY would work fine. In my experience a 1x2, 1x4, and even 2x8 matrix were stripping HDCP. I don’t know the reason why, but im assuming it’s a secondary feature.
The item you linked is the same 1x2 splitter I used for a small project. It strips HDCP while it splits the signal.
I have used quite a few HDMI splitters and have never seen one that “feature” exhibited in any of them, nor have I heard of this aspect of chinese HDMI splitters before. Considering how everybody has to deal with HDCP, and it’s always been a major thorn in the PS3 capture side of things, I’d very much like to confirm what you’re saying. You’re sure that Smahbro’s link is the same one you use? I’m gonna order one to check it out.
EDIT: This is not me trying to talk mess; I’m excited by the possibility that this problem has been “solved”, I just haven’t heard it from anybody but you. The DVI->HDMI stripping converters I’d heard before, too, but hadn’t tried to verify that. Considering how cheap an HDMI->DVI converter is (it’s a passive dongle, or just a cable), those could be a boon as well if they can get confirmed.
I just tested it for confirmation that my HDMI splitter strips HDCP as I was able to record and stream off of 720p video. The splitter I used, which is a generic chinese model, looks like this: http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/639219410/FREESHIPPING-font-b-HDMI-b-font-Distribution-Amplifier-1-IN-4-OUT-font-b-Splitter-b.jpg
Ideally, any model with the same sort of design should work too.
I also just tested your DVI to HDMI idea. What I used was a Male HDMI to female DVI coupler, and a male DVI to male HDMI cable, making a DVI conversion mid-cable. I plugged it into my PS3 and was able to get video into my cap card that was HDCP stripped. This can be a much cheaper solution to strip HDCP and still be able to use HDMI.
