theres nothing wrong with exploring different characters. sometimes it takes a few hours, sometimes even just a few minutes, for a character to click with you and just ‘feel right’.
seriously, a few hours taken away from training time with your main won’t hurt you.
to be honest though, if you feel that your ‘main’ is ‘too boring’ to play, then you either chose the wrong main or the wrong game.
Usually if you try and counter pick and you didn’t put work into that character you usually lose. True story.
Dude wants to play competitively aka win AND is interested in learning a new character, how is this not an ideal solution?
Best way to get better with your character is figuring out to win with them even in a bad match up
Yeah because you might not have the chance to counterpick depending on how the set goes! :wow:
I remember someone interviewing daigo and asking what he thought the reason he was so dominant at the competition and he said something in the lines that most people had a main and a secondary, he just only practiced one character. I come from the notion that if you haven’t even mastered one character godly enough, then why the hell are you going to try to master another. Its fine and dandy to learn other characters for your main though because understanding what people tend to fish for is better, but I think using your main to fight other good matchups is better for you.
I don’t know if you’re serious or not but, in character locked tournaments or during blind picks or single elimination tournaments you’re setting your self up for failure if you just toss up your hands every time you have to fight a bad match up.
Yes it would be extremely stupid to not learn your worst matchup. I’m just representing for the cynics.
Using counterpicking sometimes fucks you over, using counterpicking sometimes fucks your opponent over, it’s allowed in most tournaments, people who have won big have done it to win, this guy wants to win, maybe its something to keep in mind, rather than sneer at it (not you), or skirt around it (you) yadda yadda yadda.
I hate to be that stream monster but anyone interested should check out the latest guard crush vids on http://www.youtube.com/user/AkumaHokoru, that tournament was an absolute masterclass/farce in secondary choice and counterpicking.
Do whatever you want. No one can tell you what the “best way” to win a lot is. Just do what works best for you.
I just know that as recently as last week I saw arturo playing ryder and art always plays rose against abel cause it’s such a bad match against abel but he was losing pretty bad and played sim anyway.
He made it look like a bad match up for abel.
And I’ve seen ryder do the same against some really good giefs.
I think ryder is awesome, but arturo is world class.
We can play super video fighter all day! How about the second set (12 mins or so) of sanford/arturo YouTube - ?AkumaHokoru’s Channel? from this week? Successful counterpick, successful counterpick, failed run-out-of-counter-picks-hail-mary counterpick.
Once again, disclaimer, my original/current advice was/is most of the characters in this game probably shouldn’t even be thinking about counterpicking at all. I’m generally with you on this, just lets be realistic, for the sake of the little ones.
I didn’t mean “don’t counterpick.” Obviously you Amreekans love counterpicking, my point was that it’s not necessary to be competitive.
Here I’ll help you out since you’re from out of town. Here are some arguments you might want to try using next time you make this point so you don’t come across as being rude, dismissive or contributing nothing.
Also, I’m not American.
Don’t play chun, she’s a stupid character.
Unfortunately as a bison main I Have never seen any bison player destroying top level guiles… I think it’s ideal to put more focus into your main obviously and do not completely neglect practice with your sub. sorry guile is my demon…
I’ve seen some japanese bisons fight the good fight against some guiles
Unless the guile is a better player than you, it’s still possible
Next story is personal:
My ps3 died about 2 months ago, i used to be a well rounded or at least a decent ken player on PSN(Street Fighter II HD Remix), since my ps3 died, i decided to buy a xbox 360 and of course my first goal was to get HDR.
I have secondaries:
E.Honda
Dee Jay
Fei Long
My first 5 days on X360 was terrible, im not used to X360 pad, my peripherals are PS3 controller or Arcade Stick, since i don´t own stick for 360, i have to stick to 360 pad, that was a real pain in the ass, cause my footsies, combos, reversals, even making or spamming hados and shoryus was so hard, so i decided to stick to my main, Ken, and learn everything again.
Now i feel confortable with 360’s pad and now my ken is almost in shape again and i feel free to train hard with my old secondaries too.
It was a little boring to stick to ken all this time, but it was necessary in order to make my ken decent again.
Daigo does have a secondary, though. Or does he no longer play Guile?
Also it depends on the game and the player. For every single-character specialist like Gamerbee (SSFIV: Adon) and Holeman (T6: Lars), you have multi-character specialists a Sanford (SSFIV: Cammy, Sagat, Sakura, Viper, Ryu, etc.) and Afrolegends (ST/HDR: Boxer, Dee Jay). Overall,the best option is to have a main and focus on that character the most, but if you want to use a secondary or a tertiary, go ahead.
I feel for most games, you should never play more than two characters with one less serious alt. Granted, plenty of people playing SSFIV have been successful with 5+ characters, but SSFIV is not as difficult in terms of basics and links for each character as some fighting games. Games like OG SF2 and Vampire Savior almost force you to stick with one single character, due to each character being significantly different (ST Dictator, for example, requires a completely different playstyle from say, a shoto, or even a fellow charge character like DeeJay) and the extreme depth of mechanics and hitstrings.
Obviously, for older games or extremely involved and challenging games like GG, it’s better to play one character only and learn it inside and out. But in a game like SSFIV, you can get away with learning enough about a number of characters and counterpicking. Then again, Daigo, Vangief and Gamerbee were all dedicated to their characters and made it much further at EVO than other players who are more well known for counterpicking and having many strong alts, so maybe sticking with one main char rings as true in IV as it does in II.