But seems like zerg are designed so that they are required to out expo their opponents, or they will lose. Corner-trap already raised up some of these points that I’m gonna reiterate on. For example, if both terran and zerg 1 base, terran has MULEs, which means he will get a bigger army out quicker. A terran army of same size (with right comp) will beat a zerg army of same size (even with flanks and perfect surrounds and etc, tank smart fire is just too good). Not to mention the scouting disadvantage, terran can simply scan, whereas zerg must sac an overlord and hope to gain some info. So terran can always come up with a better comp to beat whatever it is the zerg is doing, and get the larger army out more quickly. It seems like a big disadvantage for zerg to not FE.
I’m not sure about ZvP. But. It seems like a lot of players as zerg will FE, use the mobility of speedling and mutas to gain map control, and transition into ultralisks and wtfpwn. Off one base, I don’t think they can produce enough zerglings and mutas to effectively contain. This is because zerg units are just way more fragile. But then again, I’ve never played a zerg who doesn’t FE, so I’m not sure.
I honestly think ZvP is pretty balanced and so I have no clue what’s the point of having the 5 sec delay for protoss. If anything it now gives zerg that much more of an advantage over protoss. A lot of the times that I beat zerg it’s mainly because my opponent has such poor micro skills like he’ll send his speedlings at my army and that’s it. He almost never thinks to run by my army and attack my probes.
It seems like I won a lot of ladder matches vs zerg just by doing 2 gate or 4 warp gate pressure. It felt really lame. I learned nothing from those matches, all I did was loosely follow a build order, and then a-move into their base. I felt like a terran 3 rack whore. Don’t get me wrong, I get roflstomped by zerg all the time, but something is wrong when all you have to do is build 2 gateways and win the majority of your matches. No micro or macro. I’m not even trying to do an all in, or one base on purpose, but it ends up that way. Its boring.
This patch will hopefully make it more exciting. I’m gonna have my friends 6 pool vs me on a small map and see if 12 gateway is still safe, but imo, if you have a good wall in, 5 seconds won’t make a difference, just plug it up with some probes until your first zeal warps in. chrono it if you’re worried. 1 zeal can stop a large number of zerglings on a ramp.
Edit: imo the nerf to warp gate is to stop players from whoring out 4 warp gates. again, boring. they will now have to mix it up, either by macroing up and getting more warp gates, or throwing in a robo or stargate as necessary.
There are a few philosophy concepts that i’m starting to understand as Zerg. Someone brought this up in a TL post, but you really have to treat the races as ROCK (Terran), PAPER (Zerg), SCISSORS (Protoss). No matter how you try as Zerg, they will NOT take out a well defended Terran base early in the game. So get it out of your mind that your gonna take out this guys base in the beginning. Zerg has to flow w/ the offense/defense tactics and take what’s given to you all the while expanding and doing your best to LIMIT your opponents expansion.
Adding an expo in main, I believe is a good thing. Shit, add them wherever you can. And BUILD a lot of queens, especially early in the game if you can. They are fun and they tremendously help to spread creep. Dimiaga does this which is cool. Any information on IDRA btw? I haven’t heard of him in a while. And TLO is just a bad ass. He does so many innovative shit with his gameplay that it’s not even funny.
Game 3 cheese pissed me off so much, I know Hyperdub is a very skilled player but in game 3 I could have easily done the exact same thing and won. Absolutely zero skill required on his part, he won it because of luck.
I guess thats true, it slows those all 4 gate zealot warp ins. Good point on the warp gate thing, thats odd I didn’t really think about that, they could have left the warp game timing untouched and nerfed the regular gateway timing, I assumed they were just trying to stay consistent
Also, it’s funny you’re buying the season pass now more than 1/2 way through the series, but at least you get access to all the VODs which is what I watch to keep up on all the games. Considering I’m getting around 64 series of top level play for $20, it seems worth it to me; I know a lot of people really hate the idea of spending the money but the production value they’re putting into this is awesome. I probably won’t be buying EVERY month; $240 a year for SC2 seems like a lot, but I’ll be watching this years seasons and probably pick up on the big tourneys each year
That cheese in game 3 was awful. I feel for the guy losing out like that, but still, it was a brave move for the cheeser though. It still seemed that he had a stronger earlier game.
Are there any Zerg players left in the tourney?
Any chance of finding some good 2v2 commentary out there? I mostly play 2v2 since I like co-op play more, but I could really use some good info on the game mode.