can’t believe you’d have ep 2 in the top 3, but A New Hope is my favorite too.
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Ok gentlemen… SW VIDEO GAME TIER LIST??
I want a star wars collabo written by frank miller and josh whedon and directed by Michael Bay and Genndy Tartakovsky. The only thing I’d need Lucas for is to release the rights to his… universe?
Fuck Michael Bay. He would instantly forget all plots and go for 100% flash.
Genndy Tartakovsky did some good work in the Clone Wars mini series.
I love KotoR and the N64 game Shadows of the Empire. I think Shadows of the Empire was the first Star Wars game to not include a main character from the movies as its main character.
It’s worth watching because Luke must confront Vader and his Emperor. Also who wouldn’t want to watch more Han Solo?
Besides, “It’s a trap!” It’s a fucking squid. One of the weirdest races in the entire Star Wars universe. Calamari… I wonder if they taste good fried.
ps I can do the Wookie growl.
SS: Rogue squadron(s)
S: Shadows of the Empire, KOTOR
A: Battlefront, Super Star Wars
B: Jedi Power Battles, TIE fighter, Empire at War, Pod racers
Shit tier: Lego starwars, fuckin Yoda Stories.
This puts me in the position of having to remember which of these damn games I’ve played.
"Hahahahahaha… goooooood!"
Rogue Leader (GC)
Shadows of the Empire (N64)
Star Wars (NES)
“Still paying off?” "Oh, not as well as I’d like."
The Empire Strikes Back (NES)
Star Wars Arcade (32X) (yes, I owned this, and don’t judge me, you cunts)
The Phantom Menace (PS1)
Star Wars Trilogy (arcade)
Star Wars: Racer Arcade (duh)
Star Wars: Racer (N64)
"I have a bad feeling about this."
Return of the Jedi (GB)
Super Star Wars (Super NES)
Masters of Teras Kasi (PS1)
Rebel Assault II (PC)
No Force Unleashed? I loved that game.
Also SWG (before the SOE mutilation), Super Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi (can’t hate on Chewie’s spinning clothesline) and Lego Star Wars.
I thought writers handled to plot. I thought it was the directors job to keep the actors from making asses of themselves.
Pfft. You think the writers handle a damn thing in a Michael Bay movie?
Here’s what happens.
The producers come up with a list of stuff that’s supposed to be in the movie. A sample list might include boobies, explosions, a car chase, a talking dog, a giant spider, and at least five things that can be turned into action figures/other toys. The producers send this list to the writer (more likely, several writers) and demand that they string these things together into a story. The writers do this, according to an extraordinarily rigid three act skeleton structure that demands an action scene or twist every 10 minutes, a major turning point at each half hour mark, and a huge shit-hitting-the-fan final battle during the last half hour. This structure is essentially the container into which the things on the producers’ list will be poured. It is the writers’ job to make sure this happens simply and clearly enough so that the idiot executive producers, who are not creative and might not even like movies, can follow it easily while they’re doing blow and possibly getting a blumpkin.
After the script is done, they send it [S]back to the producers[/S] to some poor underpaid/unpaid intern whose job it is to read the script and verbally summarize it to the producers. The producers will make a list of changes, which they either thought of during the verbal summary or in the interim before that, probably while watching other movies and seeing all the great ideas that went into them. (A retarded younger brother… why didn’t I think of that? That’s perfect for Die Hard 6!) Possibly, they will send these notes back to the original writers, but, more likely, the script and the notes will be sent to another team of writers entirely. Perhaps the process will repeat and yet another team of writers will receive script+notes after that, and so on and so forth.
At some point, this… thing will arrive in the hands of Michael Bay, who may very well have his own opinions about it and make his own alterations, within the permission of the producers. Further changes may be made during production. The last opportunity for changes–and it is a big one–is in the editing room, where everything from individual shots to entire scenes can be shuffled, included, excluded, rejiggered in CGI, or even reshot altogether.
It is possible that the original writers still have delusions of working an element of artistry into these otherwise mass-produced genre entertainments. Assuming that hasn’t been stomped out of them yet, any strain of individualism that they might have worked into the original script will have been filtered out many times over by the time the movie actually hits the screen.
If you want to know what writers handle in a Michael Bay movie, it’s brown and lumpy.
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RIP Star Wars.
I find the lack of Dark Forces/Jedi Knight in your game lists… disturbing.
Also I’m pretty sure Kyle Katarn came before Dash Rendar, in main characters that did not appear in the movies. If you haven’t played any of the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, during their time, you missed out on ALOT. ALOT! It’s those games that really opened my eyes on the expanded universe and stuff. They really gotta make a new DF/JK game.
As for Star Wars in general… What can I say? Long post incoming…
I loved the old Triology, 6 being my favorite. For one particular scene. The part during the space battle, where there’s rows of Tie Fighters attacking the ships. Interceptors, Defenders, and all that good stuff. That shit, when I first saw the movie, seriously blew my fucking mind. Rows after rows of ships, starships, lasers everywhere and crap, holy shit that was amazing. I can see how the Ewoks are retarded, don’t get me wrong, but it was worth it for the space battle, something I have never seen before that moment.
Now, the new triology, ughhh. I remember seeing the previews for it. I remember watching Entertainment Tonight for the FIRST SNEAK PEAK at the trailer and shit… and man… again, it BLEW MY FUCKING MIND, I was so hyped for Episode 1, it’s not even funny. FINALLY, we’ll be able to see Darth Vader and the Emperor killing shit left and right, spaceships, battles, stormtroopers, maybe how they built the empire, maybe some Luke adventures!!! My mind was racing.
Then we got an annoying little kid… cough
… Yeah… ok?
I will never forget coming out of the theater at like 4AM, the midnight was full, so went at 2AM… and just walked away speechless. I didn’t know what to think about the movie, I was seriously speechless, did I enjoy it? No. Was it bad? I don’t think so… I don’t know. I saw it later and yeah it was definatly fucking bad. And here’s why. And this is true for all the new triology. For every amazing scene such as the duel between Qui Gon, Obi Wan and Maul, with the music, and the scenery and the coreographed moves (I enjoyed those) and all that shit, we got a fucking Jar Jar. For every scene where Qui Gon and Obi Wan are fighting droids, we got a fucking annoying whiny kid. For every Pod Race with an annoying fucking kid, we got a retarded kid blowing up a fucking mothership… I mean you know the kid ain’t gonna fucking die, he’s a kid, so of course he will fly trough a fucking mothership, crash, restart his systems, and blow up the core on his way out… of course.
I know where George fucked up, he tried to please EVERYBODY! And that shit don’t work, it might work for an experienced director such as Cameron, Scott, etc who can please all ages, but for George who comes back after 20 years of not shooting a movie and tries to mix, Jar Jar stepping in shit and lolololol it’s sooooooo funny to Galactic Senate Discussions??? Like, really?? REALLY GEORGE?? Who the fuck was this movie designed for? Kids? I don’t think they are enjoying the Galactic Discussions, the Trade Federation, the Power Sturggle within the Senate… Adults? I don’t think they’re enjoying, Jar Jar or little fucktard kids, but nope, George went with it anyways, and nobody enjoyed the movie. Maybe little kids did, I dunno.
Anyways, to keep it short, Ep2, the “love story” BS was so fucking long and boring and unbelievable and shit and fuck and fuck you George. The clones were cool, the battles were cool. Obi Wan vs Jango Fett was awesome. Those space bombs Jango’s ship released with the delay sound effect was AMAZING! But again, for every Obi vs Jango we got Padme eating the fucking fakiest CGI apple I have ever seen, Anakin rolling in the grass… Anakin riding some dumbass bad CGI animal, some really REALLY dumb ass “love” dialogue. Sigh…
Finally Ep3, I know people are saying this movie was “ok” the same way people say Transformers 1 was “ok”, but no, fuck you, both of those movies were pretty bad. Again, you can see the pattern coming here… General Grievious, AMAZING, OMG I CANT WAIT WHEN HES GONNA FIGHT OBI WAN WITH 4 FUCKING LIGHTSABERS!!! Obi Wan pulls gun, one shots him. … WHAT THE FUCK??? The battles we’re great… but then Padme dies of … sadness??? I DONT FUCKING KNOW!!! Anakin joining the Dark Side in the dumbest way possible. The Jedi Council not seeing any of this coming??? I don’t know, I went in this movie not expecting anything… I had no expectations, and as soon as the movie began I couldn’t fucking suspend my mind and just enjoy the movie. Everything looked so fake. For every action that was happening I had 10 diffrent questions of “Why? How? How is that even possible??” Anakin brushing off the spider droids off Obi’s ship… why are they shooting spider droids in space? Why are Anakin and Obi always arguing, why didn’t Anakin turn evil when he decapitaded Dooku, how did they manage to land the big ass star destroyer, non stop questions, I couldnt fucking stop asking basic questions which provided no answers. People say this movie was ok? I say it was the most unblievable of them all.
Anyways, I would LOVE to have Ep 7,8,9 and so on so forth, and I do actually want George involved, but only as an advisor. Let him lead the story, but provide COMPETENT people for directing, script and for the love of God, don’t shoot the whole fucking movie on CG backgrounds. I’m really happy George created this universe, my favorite movie universe, but he should have chosen a diffrent path for the prequels.
Anyways, that pretty much sums it up, I guess.
Bane Trilogy says fuck you all that are hating on EU.
Now that you mention it, I did play the original Dark Forces. I suppose it wasn’t too bad.
If the prequels have the awesome scenes you’re describing, even if it’s only to be undercut by an awful scene soon after, the end balance should be mediocrity, rather than outright badness. I think that’s part of the trouble of comparing an experience you have as an adult to an experience you have as a kid: kids are much more forgiving of flaws if it means getting to the good stuff.
Looking back, I actually liked the Obi-Wan “segments” of Episode II. I mean, we get to see Obi-Wan play smooth operator space detective, fight Jango, uncover a big conspiracy, etc. etc. Kinda wish that the mystery angle was played up more. I call them segments because the first 2/3 of the movie are literally divided between Anakin and Obi-Wan, scene for scene. Yuck.
edit Episode II is enjoyable if you skip the Anakin segments and just watch the Obi-Wan stuff up to the coliseum fight onwards.
IMO The obi-wan sequences were some of the best prequel moments from the first two movies. Everyone hates on the Anakin/Padme scenes (as they probably should) but the clone factory sequences with Kenobi and the lead up to the end battle was kinda solid otherwise. (mystery sequence with investigation, until the big bad/real threat gets outed)
I just wish we had gotten more bro Anakin/Obi moments in the movies. The mustafar duel would have been so much more powerful and all the more tragic for the general audience if they had really realized that it was father/son and brother/brother. However, the EU is taking care of this point with the books and the new CGI clone wars show
Dark Forces was ok… its starting with Dark Forces 2 that things REALLLLY started to pick up!
Also, I didn’t mention it in my previous post but what I meant is that for 1 every good scene, there were 5 bad ones. The radio was 1:5, not 1:1, LoL. And ofcourse the good scenes were amazing, it’s fucking Star Wars! And that’s the thing. I saw those movies as a teenager and I tought they were bad, I’m afraid to watch them now, from what I heard, they really don’t hold up, unlike the old Triology which are timeless, imo.
in this vid harrison ford talks about how there’s going to be 9 star wars films. 3 prequels, trilogy, then epilogue trilogy.
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Episode 2 was my favorite in the new trilogy. You just detailed why. I loved EM’s Obi and he had a lot of great moments in the movie.
Overall, I liked the endpoint of the characters story arcs. This is why I hold it in the highest spot for me. I think for watching, Empire is still the best.
If it would have ended with Anakin waking up from a bad dream, it would have worked so much better
My soul just died watching that.