If Luke was making a dozen or so boulders hover around a week after meeting Obi-wan? You might have a point.

But It took Luke the events of A New Hope, plus a whole year, just to figure out how to yank a 2-3lb LightSaber hilt from the snow. There’s no comparison.

Remember that time when that whiny kid from the desert managed to destroy a space station the size of a moon by forgoing his starfighter computer-assisted aiming console and instead decided to wing it because some old dead guy told him to use the force, after his only training with it was swinging a laser sword around at a floaty ball that shocked him?
Good times.

That ship was on auto pilot half the time.

So really military pilots in SW are just dog shit at their job, they got out piloted by a 9 year old who had the shit stuck on Auto Pilot.

Exactly.

Considering Stormtrooper Aim, that’s actually believable.

they missed all the shots because… the Force did it…

luke was always supposed to be a hot hand with a stick because he raced t16s through beggar’s canyon. like American Graffiti, lucas had fond memories of being a teenager racing cars.
that moment was built up to for the entire film and it fit the narrative structure of the film, i dont think many people found it forced or mary sue at all.
luke’s whiny attitude and unhappiness with being a poor farm yokel gave him a personality, even if it wasn’t very popular.
what personality does the female lead in the new movies have, exactly?

She’s nice (to look at)?

I know. Do you also remember the time that same whiney kid from the Desert who, within a few days of meeting some crazy old man, learned how to manipulate the minds of others, and then defeated the galaxy’s most feared space wizard in a laser sword duel?

Good Ti— Wait. That never happened. Because that would have been idiotic. Glad no one made a movie like that…

That 20 year old kid from a desert out piloted every space pilot in the galaxy and blew up a planet sized space ship with his eyes closed cause a voice talked to him

Ran across this on YouTube. Someone redid Luke’s green saber with blue.

Green works better for me.

The thing is Luke spent almost the entire duration of A New Hope as pretty much a damsel in distress, so when he finally blew up the Death Star at the end, it was like a Rudy moment. He wouldn’t even have been able to blow up the Death Star if someone hadn’t shown up to save his ass for the 4th or 5th time. It showed his progression from naive farm boy to a legendary war hero; this is called character development.

Rey is pretty much capable from the start. She’s a skilled fighter, pilot, mechanic, understands Wookie-ese(?), Droid-ese and is even force sensitive. The one time she shows some vulnerability when she’s captured by the First Order she gets herself out using an ancient Jedi technique she had only heard about.

Don’t forget beating an evil space wizard in her very first lasersword duel to the death.

The new trilogies premier villain, owes the hero for sparing his life after the first movie.

No, he owes Chewie for saving his life. You don’t think he could have hit Kylo in the head? The only thing that saved him was uncle Chewie had mercy on little Ben and only hit him in the side.

What are ya’ll even arguing about anymore? Seriously WTF?

Star Wars. :coffee:

2 thing about star wars that are important about its success.
1)underdogs. the little dog standing up to the big dog.
2)friendship. which this vid reminded me of.
in the og trilogy, luke, leia and han are seen together, all 3 in the same shots multiple times to build that feel…that anime, “friendship is forever” vibe
TFA and TLJ doesnt succeed in that.
rey po and finn are never in the same framed shot even once this whole entire time.
which doesnt help either movie. i like both movies but im more worried about how ep 9 will work when TLJ wrapped everything up ecept rey v kaylo finale.
i have…no idea how jj abrams…what story he can possibly tell. with so much wrapped up within tlj
also, luke han and leia are also never in the same frame either. which doesnt reinforce the friendship vibe that is a backbone of star wars goodness. but whatevs.

That also describes every Giant Mecha Anime ever, angsty Teen out piloting Seasoned Veterans,

Well to be fair, when shooting a person, its easier to hit center mass than a headshot, and knowing what Chewbacca’s Bowcaster does to regular storm troopers, all you need is a single shot in the chess or abdomen.
Kylo took that hit like a chap.

sorry if posted before.
its interesting how scenes were originally placed.