1461

Rindoukan approved.
Image looks magical. Future looks bleak for Juri.

1462

He’s not talking about FADC’ing the hayate. In 3S if you hold the punch button when you do a hayate it’ll charge it much like Sakura’s fireball. If you press a kick button while she’s charging hayate it will cancel it completely (no meter required).

1463

I put in my SF Anniversary disc in last night and played around with Makoto and something I haven’t seen discussed on this board before is her kara-xxx ability. Does anyone know anything about her kara-cancelling moves will be carried over from 3rd strike? It would seem logical if Capcom say to preserve her feel as much as they could but I am just wondering if they carry over something like kara-cancels from 3rd strike to SSF4…

Also, how important were her kara-ability in terms of her game play in 3rd strike? If they didn’t carry them over, would it hurt her in any ways??

Just wondering out loud…

1464

I for one feel that her Kara moves are important to her game, so I hope they’ve kept that intact. Then again the engine is different, so it might not be needed. But, the more tools the better.

1465

Well, lk-kara was very good. But if we don’t get that, we’ll just use f.HK feint>Whatever. Sagat style.

1466

Oh that. Well hell if that worked then it’d be an infinite.

1467

Kara-karakusa is in I read. If that’s so then kara throws will be and potentially (POTENTIALLY) kara fukiage might be. I don’t know SF4 well enough but I don’t remember other characters having kara-specials unless it’s a special normal like Sagat’s LK or +HK etc.

1468

Gief has Kara green hand.

1469

hayate feint didnt move her forward in 3s. because of the pushback of hitstun theres no way that would be an inf. maybe with sf4’s terrible stun mechanics/hit detection you could do two but the shortcuts and accidental negative edge would kill the practical value of it.

1470

cant wait to choke some people.

1471

Maybe you could get off Fierce, Hayate cancel, C.Strong -> Hayate. Or, if the hitstun pushback isn’t too bad and/or the cancel goes fast enough, Fierce, Hayate cancel, Fierce, Hayate cancel, C.Strong -> Hayate. The second sounds more like a tool-assisted-only combo, if it’s even possible.

And I’d feel better about it if those Makoto players were talking after some hands-on experience with Super, rather than conjecture after looking at the same videos the rest of us have, combined with their SF3 experience.

1472

hayate -> fierce xx hayate cancel low strong

call psylocke

rom infinite

makofuckingneto

1473

Yes you’re right, I thought I remembered him saying Hayate cancel then dash then do another HP. Of course if she’s standing in place then it wouldn’t be an infinite.

1474

Maybe im thinking of things all wrong he but most time when i FADC its to cancel into ultra or to extend a combo like hands, or to be safe.

edit after typing a long drawn out response : in a nut shell im seeing sim like issues. The only saving grace is that its fast.

1475

Not to butt in, but I thought I’d remind folks that the Japanese Makoto blog goes up today (25th) if I’m right. Many of our questions and predictions/suspicions will be answered if the Ibuki blog was anything to go by.

I can’t wait. Here’s hoping for a quick Azrael translation and if nothing else, some purdy screenies :wink:

1476

Oh snap! Are we are pulling an all nighter on a work day like we used to every Tuesday and Friday of last month in hopes of seeing some better alternate costume pics instead of character announcements?

1477

I’ll likely be up, I took a long nap this afternoon. X_X

Anyway, at least I’ll have some Makoto info to entertain me later.

1478

Nope. Makoto blog is next tuesday (Japan time)

1479

Oh curses. Oh well, at least there’ll be a bunch of Nakky fanboys to laugh at then.

1480

LMAO. That shit would rock.