4281

I dunno, Dhalsim versus Hakan is really, really bad, you guys.

4282

Well to be honest, Sim is so full of bad match up, it’s just sad to discuss about lol.

4283

Learn to count knockdown timings, I had meaties figured out in 2 minutes in training mode without doing the math.

4284

Capcom has their work cut out for them no matter what. The things that great players vs good players vs bad players find annoying about the game are usually different with only some overlap. So if you make Dhalsim or charge characters better you are going to annoy the shit out of lower level players for example.

It’s an unintended of side effect of (relatively) frequent patching I think. If you’re actively trying to make your fanbase happy you’re juggling at least three different groups of people, and they all won’t see the game the same way. At least with older Capcom games they released the game, and whatever it was was what it was. I’m sure ST/3S/CVS2 would look a lot different if they were getting yearly patches now. A lot of the stuff people discovered in those games would not have made it past the first patch in SF4.

You can see it clearly with Dhalsim. Even a mediocre Dhalsim player just wrecks low level players and saps the enjoyment they’re taking from the game, while at high level the shoe is on the opposite foot. Go either direction on that character and you either make him completely unusable for good players or an unfun nightmare for the others.

4285

That is true. Some characters are nightmares at lower levels, some at mid levels and some in the higher levels.

Fei Long is not frightening at the lower level but Bison, Vega, Guy ( I’ve come to learn this one personally), Blanka, and Dhalsim are a curse at this level.

Later on they are not viable characters. However, this isn’t exclusive. If you want to balance a character in the highest level, balance his highest level tools in a matter of frames. Don’t give them a faster walkspeed, an invincible reversal, or far more dominant normals, etc.

Micromanage them and this shouldn’t be a problem.

4286

Why do people not understand that blanka ball is a PROJECTILE by design, show me a projectile that’s punishable on hit. Damn the people that say blanka ball should be nerfed

4287

Do you get a free jumpin if you predict Blanka ball like you do projectiles?

4288

Rose LP Soul Spark. It’s -8F on hit.

4289

More like, does half the game screw blanka balls over for no damn reason?

4290

-8 is unpunishable by most of the game standards save for chun li super and Ryu super. Blanka ball is like so slow that Fei can dash in and light rekka, but eternal u get my point a projectile shouldn’t beminus twenty on block wtf!

4291

How the fuck is Blanka Ball a projectile by design
You have no idea what the fuck a projectile is, do you

4292

Dhalsim has got to be the most frustrating character to main. It takes the patience of a saint, the focus of a sniper, and mensa level intelligence. After all that patience, focus, and intelligence carefully reading your opponent and using the right limbs to control space for tiny bits of damage…your opponent gets in and you die in 10 seconds. The Dhalsim needs to make dozens of great reads to win, the opponent needs to make one.

4293

-8 is punishable even from range. So many Ultras will catch that.

4294

That minus 8 is only relevant if she throws a raw one point blank though so really that discussion is rather pointless.

4295

Tell me smart guy, what is a PROJECTILE?

4296

predicting balls with backjumps is actually how hawk wins the match vs. blanka.

Also projectiles and blanka ball serve the same purpose in a lot of respects. They are how both blanka and projectile characters set the tone of the match and establish a lifelead. They also control space horizontally but also carry some risk of a guess or reaction punishing them.

In every game balls don’t work that way(though his other tools are stronger), but in this game they do and they are actually less safe as a neutral tool than they were in Super which is a shame. If he’s not able to control neutral with them he needs to have more frame advantage, damage, and tools to do other stuff through either more up close options or better footsie normals.

4297

@Vulpes
A projectile is any object projected into
space (empty or not) by the exertion of a force.

Now in the game generally its for space control and reasonably safe on hit and block and can be made safe by meaty and spacing.

So tell me why should blanka be punishable for hurling himself at you. Even Honda headbutt for me is considered a projectile.

4298

Yeah but Eternals frame data pager went off (Still rocking the pager). I’m surprised it took so long, I went through two bags of popcorn and these 3D glasses hurt my eyes after a while.

4299

Blanka ball isn’t a projectile. A projectile is something thrown, shot out, or propelled through some other force. A bullet fired from a gun is a projectile, an arrow fired from a bow is a projectile, a rock thrown by a person is a projectile, etc. Blanka is launching himself using his own force. If he was fired out of a cannon, then he would be considered a projectile.

In fighting games projectiles are things that can’t incur damage themselves, they are fired by the character. Sumo headbutt is not a projectile either.

4300

Dee Jay too strong!!! Up kicks greater than Dive kicks