PShrimp: 33
PBomb: 22
Icege: 15
Kaz:11
Keres: 10
Wonky: 10
Bulldancer: 9
PWilly: 8
Code Blue: 7
SWB: 5
Meris: 5
Sovi3t: 4
Zephyr: 3
Wyde: 3
Syke1: 2
Doof: 2
BJ: 2
BlueNu: 1
PapaRhino: 1
Puff: 0
Orochizoolander: 0

High Posters:
PShrimp, PBomb, Icege

Mid Range Posters:
Kaz, Keres, Wonky, BullDancer, PWilly, Code Blue, SWB, Meris

Low Posters:
Sovi3t, Zephyr, Wyde, Syke1, Doof, BJ, BlueNu, PapaRhino, Puff, Orochi

The TZ Trifecta at the top of the list, coincidence, I think not

If Orochi doesn’t post day 1 we need to kill him off, didnt he get killed for inactivity in the last game?

Oh jeez its so easy to point out all the “TZ drama” and sideline everything. If its some odd way for mafia to fit in by calling out the TZ DRAMAAA I might take a hint.

The way I see it, is that lynching Powerbomb will give us a bad longrun,

PShrimp with no cheating and an end to this drama.

Icege with no cheating. He seems to be talking out of his ass for the moment but I think he is a towny.

So PShrimp wins for the moment. Stop bothering with this ‘trifecta’ and try to go for somebody else.

So let GCL take care of him, lynching an inactive won’t do us much but give mafia a free kill in the night.

Lol the drama is only here because of you though. You, Willy, and Kaz are the only ones still talking about it and referring to it as drama. You don’t speak for everyone. Like I said, I’m just a regular kid. You are wasting your time.

:coffee:

I guess what I was saying didn’t really get through to you P. Shrimp. I’m gonna leave it alone for now.

Anyways, here’s who we should be concerned about:

PapaRhino: 1
Puff: 0
Orochizoolander: 0

Orochi as far as I know is always inactive despite saying he wouldn’t be, Puff is usually mafia and his playstyle has never changed (he hardly ever posts), and PR has normally played the same in every mafia game despite being mafia once I believe.

I’m starting to feel bad that votes aren’t reversible, but we need to think this through better next cycle.

I’m waiting for everyone to stop posting about the drama. forget the cheating accusations, the back and forth about it is killing the game. you’re literally ruining it. it’s hard to wade through the posts and try to get a read on people thanks to all the off topic garbage. if that’s part of your plan your play style fucking sucks. GCL needs to start handing out yellow cards or something.

this. I look terrible with my low post count, but I have nothing to add to TZ drama, and every 4 out of 5 posts is somebody accusing another dude of cheating or some shit. Hell, I’m all for voting the drama queens out, I’m glad I voted the way I did so far

Let me tell you my dramas for making this game all abortion SWB

It’s ok man, I have a hard time understanding stuff sometimes. :slight_smile:

PapaRhino is way less active this game than I saw him last game.

I’m sure everyone already knows this, but “number of posts” != “number of content posts”. Off-topic posts about drama or personal issues aren’t really useful for the purposes of the game.

For the sake of transparency, if people have voted they should let people know.

Confirmed votes:

Powerbomb: 2 (Icege, Pistol Shrimp)

I don’t know if I have the bravery to go back and try to filter “content” posts but that sounds fun :stuck_out_tongue: What are you currently thinking this cycle Keres? Would I be right to assume you played on mafiascum.net? Or did you learn how to play somewhere else?

And those of you still rubbing your vag and whispering “drama… drama… TZ… segregate…” need to shoot yourself in the mouth, because there is plenty of reads to be made in all of that text. Don’t be salty because you are either to lazy, illiterate, or ignorant to do so. I personally am starting to get a good idea on at least four different players that are civilian, and another three that are either special roles or mafia.

Maybe we should get rid of the useless players that get pouty face over people talking so much that it makes them even more suspicious for not posting.

My special role is that I’m the photographer, because I’m exposing bitches

i did let people know. I bolded and everything

LYNCH POWERBOMB
LYNCH POWERBOMB
LYNCH POWERBOMB
LYNCH POWERBOMB
LYNCH POWERBOMB

better?

The point is I don’t wanna sift through 5 pages of you, powerbomb, and whoever else calling the other a fucking cheater, and then showing us how you have or haven’t cheated in the past. I don’t care, period. Else we can just vote all you TZ scum to be lynch or booted from the game. Fuck off and grow up

I voted for Pistol Shrimp, I believe Black Jesus and Pimp Willy did as well.

I’ve only played on some other random gaming-related forums and not on MS directly, but I’ve read all of the theory on MafiaScum.net so I’m familiar with it, anyway. I’m also friends with (and have played with repeatedly) a few of the more serious longtime Something Awful players so their knowledge has rubbed off a bit over time.

Anyway, at the moment, here are my main suspicions, in no particular order:

  • Pistol Shrimp: Admittedly voting for someone he thinks is town. (Yeah, he has a metagame “reason” for it, but meta reasons are bad reasons IMO.)
  • Icege: Like the above, declared he’ll constantly vote for Powerbomb until he dies for metagame reasons.
  • SoVi3t: Maybe he’s just a new player(?), but saying something like “who wants to convince me that they’re a fellow town [because I’m totally town guys duh why wouldn’t I be]?” comes across as trying *way *too hard. I’m always suspicious of people who go out of their way to say “by the way I am totally town, I don’t know why you’d ever think otherwise!” Besides that fact, Mafia isn’t a game in which you make everyone else prove their innocence to you. It’s a game in which you go out and hunt the Mafia based on their behavior and actions.
  • BullDancer: Advocating no-lynch on day 1, though maybe this is just due to inexperience(?)
  • And most of the inactive posters (Syke/Doof/Black Jesus/BlueNu/PapaRhino), though obviously the game hasn’t been going on very long. Still not a great sign though.

I’m also going to say that I have no prior knowledge of any of this TZ drama or cheating allegations, and am choosing to disregard them for the purposes of this game. If cheating continues to be a problem, those players should be banned from future games; there’s really nothing to be gained for voting from a person in this game because they’ve done shady stuff in the past. If they do shady stuff in this game and the moderator finds out, they’ll be modkilled and there’ll be no reason to waste our votes on it. Simple as that.

Finally, last thing: I see no benefit to keeping our votes entirely secret (everyone’s going to find out the next morning anyway, and that information can help spur discussion in the short-term), so I’m in support of keeping an unofficial vote tally going as people start claiming their vote targets.

Racist

Well, personally, it seems to me if you’d rather play without drama you’d want to play without Wonky. To be honest, this thread was fine until he derailed it. I dunno, I misunderstood what kaz was trying to say to me so I won’t blame him but Wonky for sure has been pushing the drama with P Willy, so if drama really annoys you, get mad at the people who keep bringing it up lol.

I don’t like BullDancer, OZ, PapaRhino, or Puff right now. BD because of how he waffle against me, it came off like how Korngo came off last game. OZ is once again silent 2 days into the game. Please post man :frowning: Rhino was a lot more aggressive coming out the gate last time we played but hasn’t said anything really this game. And Puff is quiet too. Hrm.

Civs? Meris cause I don’t think he enjoys playing the game as mafia and says he would quit. Besides that, makes good observations so I want him around for now. Powerbomb. I voted literally right after the game started, but after reading his posts I’m pretty much over it at this point. I think he’s civ.

I’m having a real hard time reading Pimp Willy and Wonky right now.

Willy last game, was very smart as mafia. He knows how to do things to make people act how he wants them to act. (IE, getting Puff to pretend to be shuma to try and get Sent killed first which didn’t work because of me) and other stuff. If he is mafia for a second game, he definitely needs to die. If he’s a civ, he could be useful though. I dunno if the drama stuff is him manipulating people to get a lynch he wants pushed, or if it’s something that really bothers him that he just forgot to address at a better time.

Wonky, from what I know having played with him, isn’t a strong player. He played well last game because he was DP and had 2 names to give, but really besides that he didn’t do anything and as “Baraka” on TZ I’ve never seen him really do anything either. Also, he didn’t complain about “cheating” on tz, and didn’t complain about it in srk game 3, so yes, it’s definitely very weird he’s pushing it so hard now. Of the three, Kaz/Willy/Wonky, I feel Wonky is most out of char withy this cheating crap. He’s had 3 games to roast me for it, but never mentioned it until now when someone else brought it up? Ehhh suspicious.

Icege I’m torn about. His “this game is not abortion me” comment could mean he’s not the vigi, since when the game was all abortion him he WAS the vigi. I think he’s trying to feel SWB out right now. I also think he could be mafia, like I said he was really the first one to post about me “cheating”. He made his blow up post at PB and then kind of got quiet about it after Willy and Wonky picked it up. I don’t trust him. Also, he has been “raging” ever sense people didn’t vote for PB, and offered himself up to be lynched in a “If PB is playing I don’t want to” kind of way. Has said he has offered himself up for death as a mafia before to throw people off.

How are other people feeling?

PShrimp: 37
PBomb: 22
Icege: 17
Kaz:12
Keres: 11
Wonky: 11
Bulldancer: 9
PWilly: 9
Code Blue: 7
SWB: 5
Meris: 5
Sovi3t: 5
Zephyr: 3
Wyde: 3
BJ: 3
Syke1: 2
Doof: 2
BlueNu: 1
PapaRhino: 1
Puff: 0
Orochizoolander: 0

People it’s hard to get a read on due to post count:
Pistol Shrimp: I always post a lot. I tend to post as I think of things or when I have a question, so I often post several times in 30 minutes sense we can’t edit our posts and I always tend to have more to add 5 minutes after I submit.

Players whose #'s are probably skewed:
Kaz, Wonky, Willy, Shrimp : These three guys all spent an unnecessary amount of time talking about “drama”. I firmly believe 1 of these 4 is mafia, and I’m civ so :wink:

High Posters:
PBomb, Icege, Keres: These guys have the highest, least inflated post counts. 1 in 3 here to me.

Inactives:
Doof, BlueNu, PapaRhino, Puff, Syke1, and Zoolander: Least active posters. This is Zoolanders second time being inactive. Puff was quiet last game, but not this quiet. BlueNu posted a lot of helpful stuff last game. Syke1 also posted a lot more last game. And PapaRhino came out aggressive last game, so ALL these players except Zoolander are kind of playing differently than they have in the past. I think 1 of these 5 is mafia too.

The Chuff:
Dancer, Code Blue, SWB, Meris, Sovi3t, Wyde, BJ, Zephyr: These guys are the guys with the “truest” post counts. They are also the hardest to read. There is likely 2 mafia here.

Meris: Seems civ like he was civ last time. Can be helpful. I’ve NEVER heard of him continuing to play after being given a mafia role. Read what he writes :slight_smile:
SWB: Hinted at Icege the game was all abortion him. Icege and SWB are tossing hints at each other, so they probably aren’t BOTH mafia, and could be both civs. I’d lean more towards Icege than SWB though.
Dancer: Waffled between PB and I for the longest, and repeatedly said he wanted to wait for me to speak to make a decision, but then when enough people in thread seem against me, he posts he thinks I should be lynched without ever hearing from me. Has also been radio silence since then.
BJ: Wants to lynch me for personal reasons. I just want to say thanks for being mature about it :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: <3
Wyde: To be honest I need to go reread his 3 posts. I think they are on pages 1&2, because Meris suspects him so it’s worth looking at.

No real opinion on the others. Here’s my tl:dr lists

Kaz, Wonky, Willy: 1 in 3
Icege, Keres: 1 in 2 or none.
Doof, BlueNu, PapaRhino, Syke1, Zoolander: 1 or 2 in 5.
Dancer, Code Blue, SWB, Sovi3t, Wyde, BJ, Zephyr: 1 - 3 in 7.

I took names of people I think are civs out (Meris, Powerbomb) and there really isn’t a lot of info this early but that’s kind of where my mind is at right now.

Keres, Kaz, Wonkey, Willy, Sovi3t

At least one mafia in those 5 imo. Possibly 2, but not likely.