Buy? Oh hell no, I’m trying to get some of dat paypuh, all about my hustle! 
We’ve been playing poorly and/or the mafia have been playing well because we’re down 4 civs and haven’t gotten a mafia yet, we’re in a bad situation, but it’s not over we have a lot of information to work with so we can still win!
@alphacommando
@cyntalan
@hecatom
@forgedigger
@mrmattroxx …even though you didn’t fucking post!
These are the confirmed civs so the medic and I will pay very close attention to their posts use them to find 1 mafia to lynch by tomorrow. If a mafia is not lynched by tomorrow I will offer myself up to be lynched next because that will give the civs a better shot at winning with the voting info plus I’m not the medic so it’s better I die than us accidentally lynching our own medic, oh and I’ll feel like a failure at this game if I can’t get a mafia kill tomorrow with all the info contained in this thread.
Of the remaining players I can only confirm myself as a civ I have no idea who the medic is nor do I care at the moment, all I know for sure is that there are 2 mafia in this list:
Augustus
Combo_Knight
Exodus
sumazndude
WTF-AKUMA-HAX
The civs need to do 2 things to sniff out a mafia. First we must use the posts of the confirmed civs and cross reference them with everyone else, then put ourselves in the shoes of the mafia and think from their perspectives on what voting patterns and night kills would benefit them most. Also keep in mind 1 Aussie Punch stock was used to gag AC, that is a valuable resource of the mafia so they must have been threatened by him especially, now I realize it is possible that the mafia would gag AC in an attempt to make us all pay extra special attention to his posts and lead us down the wrong path even further, but that’s a yomi level 2 tactic that I sincerely doubt is being used because we the civs have been far more dangerous to ourselves than the mafia have so far. And besides if AC was wrong about who he suspects than mafia wouldn’t waste a night kill on him, they’d go after someone more incriminating to them.
With all this being established, being able to read between the lines and find out at least 1 definite mafia should be doable for me, but the hard part will be convincing 3 of you to vote for the person I vote, because the 2 mafia left sure as hell won’t vote for who I vote for assuming I do correctly sniff out a mafia. Or maybe 1 of them will vote for the mafia I find, because if I do find a mafia and convince the 3 other civs left to vote with me, that mafia will be dead anyways so it would make perfect sense for the 1 remaining mafia to blend in with the majority rather than stand out and bring attention to himself. And yet the fact that I posted that thought may lead that 1 remaining mafia to do exactly that…LOL mind games driving me nuts.
Down to business. Page 1 as usual doesn’t give us a ton of information but there is some, except for the fact that WAH reminded everyone that the Hale in this game chose his partner and so logically that means the Hale picked a “good” player to be his spy and then Exodus agreed with that assessment. It just dawned on me right now that the civs in this game have all along went with this assumption, none of us ever stopped to realize that maybe the Hale picked a lesser experienced player to throw us off, I mean Hale obviously knew before this game started that the civs would know he got to pick his player so why would he pick someone that we could figure out that easily? If I were Hale in this game, I would be tempted to pick someone like AC or Cyntalan, but I’d more likely go with someone else because players of previous mafia games inherently appear more suspicious, even hecatom said it himself he never trusts cyntalan! I would probably pick @pertho to be my spy because he as a newbie he would fly under the radar and he’s a pretty intelligent poster in general so he would adapt to this game quickly. The other noteworthy posts on page 1 would be AC saying Combo_Knight would be his spy pick and then Combo_Knight saying we need more information…even though there never is any information to go on in day1 that’s just how the game goes 99.9% of the time day1 lynches are inactives/useless civs. And let’s not forget AC the player the mafia deemed dangerous enough to spend their Aussie Punch on wanted to lynch Augustus as early as page 1 for using a misdirection tactic, not solid evidence but something to keep in mind going forward.
On to page 2. Forgedigger I understand my misunderstanding of the roles made you suspicious, but lay off I’m not mafia, I won’t bother typing a longass essay convincing you, I’m just letting you know I’m not mafia or medic so chill on me. WAH defended me twice against forgedigger on my poor wording of the roles which would have been a perfect mistake for mafia to capitalize on, so that’s a tiny bit of circumstantial evidence that WAH is civ at this point in the thread. After this Cyntalan our confirmed pyro who at this point doesn’t have much info says he is sure there is a mafia among hecatom/AC/CK…and we’ve confirmed AC and hecatom as civs so that leaves Combo_Knight. At this point forgedigger and I are suspicious of each other without mafia having to lift a finger to make it happen, Augustus chooses Pertho for the same reason I did initially but admitted he was more stubborn about his choice and AC called him out for it with everyone else quiet. Now if I were a mafia I’d be quiet at this point too, since sticking your neck out this early is likely to make you a target later on if you’re wrong, but I’d have 1 mafia make an accusation to get the ball rolling in the other direction too. WAH out of nowhere starts the mrmattroxx bandwagon because…he’s an inactive…hmmmm fishy. So now we have this:
CK claims he didn’t see the timer on his cell and we understand mistakes do happen, but seriously the voting deadline has been posted in the OP and we’ve been talking about votes for 2 pages previously so it’s much more likely CK knew about the deadline and decided to intentionally not vote so he could maintain his cover as an unsure civ that hasn’t put his foot down one way or the other. At this point CK and WAH would be my most likely mafia targets, from the point of view as a civ they hurt the civs the most and as a mafia I would give them the most props for getting a civ killed while also keeping everyone in the dark about who is/isn’t mafia. Then AC comes up with a really interesting idea to which WAH responds as not having any negatives, despite seeing that it could be turned against the civs to rolehunt for the UC/pyro. The sumazndude makes his first post defending forgedigger from me…okay possible civ assuming pertho (my pick for spy if I were mafia remember) wasn’t already mafia. AC was on the wrong track obviously voting for hecatomb however, the logic for it was sound as he was a “middle of the road/low poster” as cyntalan pointed out earlier. Everyone keep in mind just because WAH supported AC’s great idea that doesn’t mean he’s automatically a civ, because if he was mafia he could have agreed with AC while planning to kill him so that others would think he’s a civ for that reason. Now this part is really interesting Augustus says forgedigger and I are probably innocent since mafia isn’t likely to go after each other so early which is sound logic however, then he says if they’re innocent (I know for a fact I am and we all know Forge is duh) then he’ll go after CK, AC, and sumazndude…right before saying all 3 of them are clean… :wtf: why didn’t this set off any alarms for us before? The CK with another useless filler post…the evidence is starting to take shape when we get this:
Hecatom laughs at Augustus being suspicious of half the players left at that point and has a post that has become retroactively wise:
Onto page 4 CK with another useless post that doesn’t help and only states the obvious, at this point he still hasn’t given us any insight as to what the civs should do. WAH then says I’m wrong about there being a mafia between him, exodus, and hecatom and his logic was sound I was too stupid at the time to listen. Exodus’s analysis of the vocal players at that point whether he is mafia or not ws true, given what we’ve posted so far at that point he laid it out well. Now we’re here:
At this point I’m convinced of 2 things: Exodus is a civ and CK is mafia. Two other things I’m less sure of but still am leaning towards: WAH being a civ and Augustus being mafia.
@Exodus I’ll say it again do not waste time and effort suspecting me, just go with me for one more day and then if I’m wrong about CK as I said I’ll offer up myself to be lynched next, you’re the only player besides @forgedigger I trust in this game both of you please I’m going nuts wishing I could show you the proof that I’ ma civ but that would obviously be against the rules, read my longass post above, think for yourself us 3 need to stick together.
I left out any clues about who the medic is because that’s not my concern at the moment and I don’t want to risk getting him exposed and night killed, but I am fairly certain of who you are. Just keep doing what you’ve been doing, don’t bother protecting me.
Lynch Combo_Knight
I don’t think you quite understood what I was saying… I didn’t say Forge and yourself were both innocent - I said that both of you wouldn’t turn out as the mafia pair. In other words, either only one of you would be mafia, or neither of you would be. If it was the latter, that’s when I’d be forced to look into the group of people I thought were clean for the mafia member hiding among them. Now, Forge is clean so I should be looking your way. However, Combo_Knight’s lack of helpfulness prior to his latest post has made me reevaluate things and push him above yourself on my suspects list.
Also, if I don’t see Sumazndude put in a vote within the next couple of hours, I’m voting to no lynch. Because if we guess wrong and he gets DQ’d, then we just lost 3 civilians in a row and the game.
@Sumazndude Put in your damn vote. It’s frustrating when we get an inactive replaced by someone that’s mostly inactive.
Welcome to the Game Combo Knight.
Admittingly -in another post- waiting for ‘someone to just slip up’ back there.
I called out orochizoo the most and nobody cared, even the guy who was on the block and didn’t have orochi voting for him yet. I think I was trying to align with Hecatom more than anybody, even if that could’ve implicated me if he was guilty-since I argued against his being lynched. I’ve admitted being wary of the ideas orochi had and explained why I joined up with him the last vote.
If nobody joins up for any vote, its all a quick painful bandwagon end. So good luck with that.
I could still be wrong, but we’re very close to losing. Going against the easy/popular vote is probably the only way left to get a Mafia and turn this around.
Being ridiculously quiet only works if you’re the last role left. But there’s not a lot of time left for self preservation. You might stay alive until the end and still lose.
A veteran that people said was good at the Mafia games?
Doing just what Cyntalan did/does and got taken out maybe because of it?
If he wanted zoo out before there was a much better chance last time with me and Hecatom not liking his plans and he said jack shit.
My longass post isn’t filler people, there’s a lot of good solid intel in that whether you think I’m mafia or not consider that my last gasp if I’m killed.
@forgedigger and @exodus I’m confident after you both read this page you’ll agree we can trust each other, the 3 of us need to stick together and unify our votes from now on if we want to win. Both of you decide if you want to vote for CK or Augustus I’ll back either one.
Is this in regards to me?
That is something I believe is blown out of proportion as I only made it to night 2 in a game we were both present, where you succeeded to the end game.
I stayed til the end, we lost. I was a bad Civilian player and didn’t figure it out.
Getting killed in the game is respect and leans towards you being a good player who the Mafia thought would figure them out.
Oh, is that what you want to do? If I were mafia, I could just easily save myself by putting you on the chopping block and have you lynched since I’m inclined to believe that those two find you slightly more than dirty than they do me. Consider that.
And I’m serious about the no lynch thing. If Sumazndude doesn’t put in his vote within the next 11 hours or so, I’m no lynching and I suggest the rest of you do as well. Because I refuse to lose like that.
If we’re going by all the Manipulation by Mafia, there are some other targets who did more in the thread. But Mafia has benefited quite a bit from the night kills they made.
It also stands to reason like we are all saying we made a lot of mistakes going after our own guys. Mafia might have pulled the trigger early on Alpha since he could definitely have taken the fall with Augustus’ plan and my thoughts on Alpha as well.
If you have any more on how Augustus is being really dangerous, moreso than CKnight as you’re saying, that could be helpful to point out. I think we shut down most of orochi’s bad ideas and nobody went with those, which could’ve spelled our doom even earlier. Which is interesting that Combo left me and you being named by orochi out of his listing of players. We could’ve been lynched if that idea on the first bandwagon was received better by the group
Combo Knight is a major player today.
It really looks like he has a ton of power. Which he hasn’t used very well if he’s a civ.
Combo Knight
No Lynch
Are current vote choices. Combo Knight won’t be voting for himself and still can miss another vote this time because it won’t be 2 in a row. There’s another thing. The group can vote sumazndude out to prevent his being lost to inactivity. Combo Knight survives. We’re not down 2 players in one Day Phase and like you’re pointing out-> setup to lose after a Night Kill, while its still blockable its already like we got knocked down and have to wakeup/standup into the oncoming setup and have no nearly time to react.
Going from 7 players to 4 players and losing. With 2 Mafia Left and 2 Civs left.
I think you should hold out on that vote, & try to get Combo Knight’s vote to help his cause and this cause as well to get him some trust. If you really believe him and don’t think he’s Mafia so with his death the numbers of Civilians/Mafia are better & we aren’t at risk of losing after this Day Vote and the Night Kill.
Shit, sumazndude could be Mafia too.
We could Win with just the 4 players left after their 2 deaths. Even if its not 3 Civs and 1 Mafia left.
I guess I’ll detail the rest of this in another post.
I didn’t say I believe Combo_Knight’s clean. I want him dead, but I could still turn out to be wrong in my suspicion. That’s why I don’t want to risk it if the useless one is fixing to probably get himself DQ’d. And if you read this, yes, I called you useless. You’re not doing anything to help us.
Screwed up the Math, maybe? Way to make me do it all and leave myself open to scrutiny if I did it too fast. I definitely didn’t go into that post to talk the math out.
Forge is Cleared.
You won’t consider yourself a Mafia.
That leaves Exodus, orochizoo, and AkumaHax. Sounds a lot like the day 1 bandwagon thing.
You could go ahead and try to go after us today instead of No Lynch if you don’t think Combo is a Mafia. Because if you don’t think he is a Mafia, and you aren’t a Mafia, these are the only guys left who could be - in your side of the game.
No Lynch was an idea to help. But it doesn’t matter too much-how we lose, we’re really about to lose anyway. Whether we Get Perfected or die on the last pixel of Health where we are forced to block a move that does damage even when we block, “chip damage” which used to be denoted by a Cheese symbol with a flashing message of “CHEAP!”
If its important for you not to lose, how about Finding a Mafia while you still can? Beat yourself up over how much time we wasted not getting one at all and bandwagoning on the easy vote instead of being the nail that’s sticking out or at least coming up with your own reasons if you didn’t have a different suspect.
‘Nobody should worry about being wrong in an SRK Mafia game, Everyone is wrong!’ And they don’t care too much that they were. They might be wrong 10 times in a row! They might not give a damn to even read and consider last gasps!
So I just think you’re playing bold, knowing that Combo or even sumazndude might turn up as Mafia. That will spell your end, the game will almost be over, but swinging the other way for the Civilians to win!
& like you’re saying about rallying 2 voters to get someone else out. What’s to say Exodus and orochi don’t believe you and we all vote for you. Where only 3 votes now is hard to beat, with so few voters left.
I could be wrong here, wrote that then checked back your new post saying you do think Combo is Mafia. Didn’t just re-write that part.
Alright if we let him live, he might be their Spy and have another Last Gasp block that IIRC only he can use and not Hale. Or it doesn’t matter, they have 1 left, they have both players left. It only matters if they can’t use it until Hale is dead and Spy takes the reigns. checked on the 1st page. They only get the 2nd last gasp block if we kill a Mafia. Either one, Hale gets another, Spy would get one from hale Dying.
Not too dangerous, just post a lot more insight intended as a last gasp; like I did expecting to die the other night.
What if we vote with you, for sumazndude?
You get what you want, the game can continue, ever so slightly more. I didn’t get the full details on that yet how much longer we get to play.
Even if we agree to get you to vote for Combo Knight next time in exchange for today’s votes, there’s no guarantee you will, like you could miss a vote due to some unforseen circumstances, or you could be killed at night as well. That does help the team with that last part, giving Mafia the chance to takeout one vote against them.
These things are making you seem very dangerous, even if I’m only thinking of the downsides and saying a lot more than you are about this plan.
In any case, the civs of that match were out to lynch me the next day, if someone wasn’t protected by that medic role I had called in that game. that’s all they shot at me for, cause I was stupid enough to just call a roll like that, and I couldn’t have been much of a player because I chief and pietastic caught Alpha’s best newcomer awards, And I wasn’t included in the allstar mafia game either, I believe I was only considered by one person if I recall? and for a last gasp, and that’s about all.
While I may not consider myself a strong player here I know that combined we all can single out the killers here. I also think the best course of action is gonna have to be to call a no lynch. Like you said earlier we are still in this and the mafia hasn’t truly won yet.
I know it’s not the way we do things but It’s just safer to call a no lynch at this point. And I understand that these are the two options on the line, but we gotta minimize unnecessary daytime casualty.
Again, I do NOT think Combo_Knight is clean.
I wasn’t threatening orochizoolander, though I know it really looks like that, lol. I was simply telling him to consider his current situation. Exodus, ForgeDigger, and Combo_Knight all suspect him. If I were mafia, what’s stopping me from joining them to lynch him? It would be easy and I could hide among three other people if the lynch went wrong for the civilians. However, I am not and am sticking with Combo_Knight. If he’s civilian like he says he is, then he should consider what I’m saying because I could definitely have gotten him killed if I wanted to.