1141

I did not vote for OZ Exodus.

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OBJECTION! (with accompanying dramatic gifs)

Didn’t Chief vote 3SL day two?

Spoiler

3rdSTRikeLOVE - kaz, The Chief, DukeC, GodotsRevenge, WTF-AKUMA-HAX

I don’t suppose you are trying to push suspicion on Chief, one of the people capable of making a read like SAD as UC?

You do raise a good point on the vigi, but in doing so, you’re still pushing suspicion on Chief. But assuming 3SL isn’t vigi, the real vigi hasn’t killed him yet since he’s probably not sure if he’s actually civ or mafia. He’s probably doing the smart thing and sitting on his stock. Or, 3SL has been enforced, which is what I’m sure his explanation will be. He’s probably OK with there being doubt about 3SL’s status.

1143

Seeing how no one has been killed by the vigi at yet 3Sl being the real vigi is starting to look like it’s the case, unless the mafia found the real vigi by chance and enforced him tonight or the real vigi is saving his stock and/or being inacitve for whatever reason.

Rolefishing for our own roles even if you’re the vigi is bad though. Doesn’t matter if you want to minimize the risk of killing someone with a role on your own team or w/e since it may lead mafia in his direction that way.

1144

Shit you’re right. In that case LGP is the only person who voted for both of them

1145

I am going to wait on SAD’s checks before acting today.

In fact SAD should just give us those as fast as he can.

1146

@RadicalFuzz?

Does whoever SAD investigated during Night 2 still go through and thus he is allowed to share it in his LG?

Also, I just found the funny :rofl:

1147

Another prime example as to why you shouldn’t play every single mafia game without talking @Sumazndude‌

1148

Order of Actions says Detective first then mafia kill. The worst thing about the checks is that they may have been counterfeit by the Forger.

1149

It wouldn’t surprise me (though I sincerely hope so) if the vigi was sitting on it, or if the vigi just hasn’t been playing the past couple of days. Plenty of people have been acting like wallflowers, making one or two posts only when it’s close to voting time.

1150

I want 3SL gone but considering the back to back purple kills… we might need a home run swing.

I still suspect Kaz is the brains but noone woyld consider him even though he really hasent done anything to help us thus far. And as much as I hate to believe it Synonym is not off the table now either.

1151

@Vynce I hope you’re serious about that IP ban/leaving SRK forever

The Chief feels like mafia to me, and I’d hate to tie Exodus. and pietastic in with you. Some of you 'tards who aren’t participating need to do so. The votes we should have had last go round to kill 3SL that were unaccounted for are starting to hurt.

1152

Even still, it’ll give us some direction in which to start looking for mafia and it’ll provide discussion.

1153

Hokay, so I am composing this post as of 1:30 AM mountain time, at the start of night 2.

I am writing this post now because tomorrow is my last day of classes at the university for the year, and my uni has a great big drinking party thing on the last day of classes every year.

As of 8:00 AM I will be busy getting trashed and will be away from computers at least in any kind of coherent state for at least 24 hours. I’m going to save this as a draft and try to pop by at 10:00AM right as I’m unslienced and get this posted. This means that this whole post is done without knowledge of the night kill or night discussion

Also being silenced super sucks.

In regards to why I think I was silenced:
Honestly I was as confused as most of you when they silenced me, and it was completely unexpected. Thinking more on it, I have distilled it down to a few different scenarios.
On the low yomi end of the scale:

  • LGP is mafia. I voted him, AC listed him as a suspect, MP listed him as suspect, they silence me so I can’t push for his day 2 lynch
  • mafia is legitimately concerned about me putting in the footwork and doing those lists, they silence me to stop them (or for higher yomi, get their own person doing them with slightly incorrect lists)
  • The silencer didn’t play last game and doesn’t realize that my gut reads are quite bad, and was afraid of me having some sort of good read (worst reason)
    Higher yomi:
  • LGP is civ. I voted him, AC and MP suspected him. They silence me and kill them to get us to kill LGP

I personally lean towards the idea that LGP is a mafia.

In regards to the idea that I am a mafia and was silenced to try to build trust. That idea doesn’t make any sense. Honestly, the way that I play (non-confrontational) lends itself to living for a while (see SAD living to the end of every game). If I was a mafia why would I bring myself into the spotlight by silencing myself when I could have just cruised along in the shadows. It simply doesn’t make any sense, but I understand why people have to consider this idea.

My responses to things asked of me while silenced.

Spoiler

What do you mean by more detailed? If you want me to give the posted reasoning behind votes like what DukeC was doing at the end there I can totally do that, just never thought of it before.

You are right I should have had switched vote to AC. The reason why I didn’t was because I just wasn’t playing attention to the part where he voted for Vynce before. I wrote the extra bit about hecatom because he de-voted literally one post after voting so it was super obvious.

To all the other comments mentioning things that I missed in my post tallies. My bad, I tried to get them all right, but some of them were missed to human error (I was drinking that night), and some got chopped off due to the stupid fucking draft system on srk. There was deffo no malicious intent on my part.

My top 6 list at this point:

  1. LGP -Like come on it’s so obvious at this point. Sneaks in the last minute vote on AC day 1. Starts day 2 on the chopping block, then somehow squirms out of it with like what, 2? posts doing the entire day (I wonder who came to his aid)? On top of that puts in the vote that kills OZ, who honestly had been fairly non-suspicious for being OZ this game. (Aside from the stupid I got no PM I cant be mafia play). It would be very very difficult to convince me not to lynch him tomorrow

I am only really confident in LGP, the others I’m less sure of and their numbers are more interchangeable
2)WAH - Comes off as very panicked in his posts, cluttering up the thread with a lot of low value posts. Also near the end of this phase, if people were less on the ball he could have forced tie by repeatedly stating incorrect vote totals. Is hard to get a read on just because of quantity and content of his posts, but something about him really rubs me the wrong way. Also didn’t like how he was insinuating that the couple of mistakes I made on the day 1 vote thingys were malicious, while I am completely unable to defend myself.

3)3SL - He has been super erratic with his posts. Y’all already know this story. The role claim day 1 was crazy, the suicidal aggression on the chief was super weird, just generally all over the place, and even if he is trying to help the civ cause, not really helping by causing so much chaos (chaos in the thread always helps mafia).

4)ForgeDigger - To me, she’s been playing almost exactly like she did last game where she was mafia. Team somuchwork and such. Isn’t really committing to suspicion of anyone except for a big post on OZ. Lots of “if you do the legwork and put yourself on the line I would consider voting for them”.

and my longballs

5)The Chief - I really want to say that hes a mafia, but I just can’t pull the trigger on it. He was right from his comment earlier of switching up his playstyle, as he is playing this one pretty different from last game. I have the same mafia-y feeling on him as I did last game, but seeing as last time he was UC I’m pretty sure that my gut is wrong. I do not think that if 3SL is mafia it clears Chief, as he is definitely clever enough to pull a Kansas City Shuffle with that spat in order to drag more value out of a mafia that is on his way to the grave.

6)BlindKnagg - This is my “feeling myself” gut read. He’s here as I feel that he could be the quiet mafia just skating by. Last game the only person that I really felt strongly that I could trust was him, because I was getting a certain vibe off of his posts. This game I am not getting that same vibe, his posts feel much more skittish, also much less participation. @Blindknagg‌ I would really like to see you participate more if you are a civ, I really appreciated your insight last game.

People that we need more participation out of
GodotsRevenge (suspicious quiet)
MANX! (went totally under the radar this phase)
Pietastic (kinda suspicious quiet)
Exodus. (want you to help more)
Augustus (as much I appreciate you swooping in and fucking with everything at the end of this phase, maybe more posts less panic attacks? augustus pls)
SAD (kinda suspicious quiet)
The Co-Jones (super quiet)

I’ll need to re-read the thread again tomorrow and try to catch some of the things I missed (Haven’t really gone back and looked at who orchestrated the OZ death yet), but for now this is my feelings on the overall state of the game

TL;DR
I’m going to be gone for at least the first half of this next day phase if not more.
fuck it just read the rest of the damn thing its not that bad

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I say we vote out 3SL first. We can order up the rest when we see who SAD has cleared. I don’t think you’ve offered much help either to be honest Chief. You and Bious up to something I see. Throwing out fluff trying to start confusion. I’m surprised no one else sees how off the two of you are and how little both you and he have contributed to this point. The ONLY reason you’re off free right now is because of the large number of inactives who usually post. @Sovi3t where are you?

Bious is going to go free because no one is even bothering to call him out on intentionally trying to start a tie with Augustus.

When 3SL comes up as mafia when I’ve been trying to vote him out the last two phases, I suppose I’m not doing anything to help. What exactly constitutes help considering you’ve done nothing Chief? Vynce won’t confirm you so what gives?

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Yeah I suppose that looks convenient. I mostly posted the Piccolo idea because that was my thought process last night when Duke asked me about it but I didn’t want to say that last night to show the mafia how I was thinking one way or the other and now I was looking for input from others to hear their thoughts on the matter. It might be worth killing 3SL at this point just for the clarity of knowing who he is. I don’t know if this is the optimal direction but its a thought.

The Chief mistally was an honest mistake.

I’m happy Skizzz mentioned ForgeDigger’s noncommittal to other suspects aside from OZ. The way her posts read when questioned about somebody else’s suspect sound exactly like me when I was mafia. An example is when Pie tagged her and asked about me and it went along the lines of, “Yeah I don’t really see it.” then she did something else like that later in the thread when asked by somebody else. Aside from that I don’t really have anything else to go on with her. I think she needs to be watched more closely.

And obviously there are a load of people that are essentially mute.

1156

Hey. All right.

@kaz Absolutely. If I’m mafia, I’m banishing myself from SRK.

@Bious Something occurred to me earlier: you don’t actually think I’m mafia. If I’m right, I appreciate you trying to buy me some time. The other side of my brain: you didn’t include me on your list of suspects once it was revealed we lost our UC. If you’re mafia, this would be a smart play in case I’ve been investigated.

(And yes, I was hoping to be investigated.)

Still, I don’t think you’re mafia. You know if you are or aren’t. If you aren’t, I believe HAX is. I don’t want me saying this to turn into another argument between the two of you. As time goes on, it will likely be evident who is who. Of course, I could be wrong.

Given the read that seemingly occurred last night, I have to entertain the possibility that Pietastic, Chief, or Syn are mafia.

If anyone who has been particularly suspicious turns up having been investigated and innocent, I would be somewhat incredulous about the result.

3SL and LGP both look good for a lynch, though I’ve not really paid much attention to either. The “oh hey. I read 2 pages lynch OZ” thing was pretty outstanding.

1157

Oh- @skizz and @forgedigger you’re both on my radar. Full disclosure.

1158

Lynch: 3rdSTrikeLove

After we find his alignment, we’ll get a ton of info from the end of Day 2.

1159

I’m still wondering how he went from this to FISHING FOR CIVILIAN ROLES DURING NIGHT TIME.

I’m still looking into some other things. Just wanted to put this there though.

1160

I’ll explain it later.

I keep flip-flopping on Hax tbh. I want to believe he’s civ but he went full retard last night. Forgedigger is playing like I expect Mafia Forgedigger to play, but I really have nothing solid on her.

I am extremely tempted to vote Syn today though, but I’m waiting on SAD (Though I don’t think he’ll help much considering Godfather and Forger are still in.)