Accelerating a bandwagon to catch mafia looking to steer wagons seems like a pretty brilliant play for a roleless civ who doesn’t have much to lose. You have my kudos!
Over-the-top defensiveness based on someone going “Well, this dead civilian thought you were Mafia because you wore a red shirt today. I think I agree with him at the moment” isn’t that odd. Maybe the over-the-top-ness was surprising, but as I’ve said, I’m sick and tired of getting lynched for little to no logical reason.
No, I’m not accusing you of not listing your reasons to be suspicious of me. I think it’s quite alright, actually, to keep some reasons hidden, if you’re okay with reduced pull in the thread because of it. I’m accusing you of having stupid ass reasons for suspecting me, at least publicly, and expecting to get me lynched. That is what you’re hoping for today, even if you don’t say it. If your only case is “Well when someone said he was Mafia because he was wearing a red shirt he got super duper mad so he’s defensive and definitely Mafia guys” then I’ll be fine.
Measure of respect? We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Getting lynched for sounding slightly different is not a measure of respect, it’s a statement that I’m not useful enough as civilian to keep around and/or I’m more dangerous as Mafia than I’m worth keeping alive as Civilian.
Forge stood up for me, yes. However, if you’re going to accuse me of being Mafia, then that makes no sense. Why have Alpha push me so hard that another Mafia would have to make a post stopping everyone from lynching me? You’re also ignoring context. Forge, Alpha, and I, along with a couple other guys from these games, play PC games like Garry’s Mod occasionally. You think I’m annoyed here when Alpha insta-locks a vote on me Day 1 for no reason, see him when he’s the only guy with a gun in the server. My point being, she sticks up for me both in Mafia and in other games where Alpha can be a murderous bastard. We also know each other IRL, obviously, so she sees just how frustrated I get at Alpha-nanigans and the like.
That’s a wack present. My point about you miscounting the votes is how you went on about having paid a lot of attention to the votes all game. By you saying that the fourth person to lock in on you would get a prize after the fourth person locked in on you clearly shows that you are not paying attention to the votes. So then, why did you say that? Most likely to make it appear as though, even though you’re acting a bit differently, you’re still pie, the logical numbers guy.
Do you think… maybe, in the vast reaches of probability–I detected that frustration on your end and maybe, just maybe, poked at it to see what would happen?
See #1. Plus, I find it odd that you know, with certainty, I want you dead and nobody else will do. I did list other options, if others are so gracious as to spare me the noose today.
Or it could be because people think you’re so good that you’re unreadable, and therefore a liability to keep around long? I guess it might depend a little bit on your level of self-confidence. Frankly, you should have more of it. You’re a threat if you’re mafia, which is part of the reason I’m continuing this conversation. If I go down first, there’ll be a lot of evidence to take you down next.
Such a menagerie as you’ve described is along the lines of what previous mafias in these games have done, myself included. The context lends credence to said menagerie. It’s not far-fetched.
Hammer on the one point you have. We’ll see what it gets you. There are trends in who has voted when. Nice attempt at getting me to spill the beans, but I won’t tip off the mafia and reveal what meaningful trend there is until tomorrow (either by posting, or LG). Given that the wagon has already started rolling today, there isn’t much point in revealing it yet.
Yes, of course that’s a possibility, but I didn’t think of it then because you were pissing me off. Either annoy me or expect me to think, pick one
I didn’t mean to imply that I’m your only suspect, just that your case against Skizzz is just as lacking as the one against me. Also, by virtue of continuing this conversation and your third point, you either think there’s a good chance of me being Mafia or you think I’m the most likely to get lynched if you aren’t
See, regardless of your honesty with this statement, I don’t like it. You’re implying that, from my first game where I got Mafia and nobody knew me, that I am just that scary as Mafia that about 7 months later people still see me as a threat if I’m Mafia. I’d have a little more self-confidence if I’d pull Mafia again and could even halfway replicate the Marvel game. That was more beginner’s luck than anything else from my point of view. On the other hand, you’re also implying that, as a player in general, I’m so good as to be unreadable. That’s just not true. A few games ago Pimp mentioned something along the lines of “I’m just gonna lynch you from now on because I can’t get a read on you”. That action is dictated by his inability to read me, which I’m convinced is just him, and my skill level as Civilian versus my skill level as Mafia
It may well be. It may not be far-fetched from your point of view, but think of it this way. One Mafia went in hard to lynch me, like always. Another Mafia makes a post saying that I’m at work until 2 in the morning and we shouldn’t lynch me without a reason. I’m just happy for the support, I don’t care if it’s Mafia
At least I have a point. I honestly couldn’t care less about what you say with your magical “voting trends evidence” given that you haven’t been paying enough attention to them to count how many votes are actually on you today, so you’ll have to excuse me if I’m a bit skeptical
Well, looks like we can put points 1-4 to bed. We can talk more about 3 post-game, though. On 5, unless mafia have some really odd wild-card power, or the numbers were severely skewed in their favor, they’re pretty screwed at this point. They need more than just an LG block, for instance. If they don’t realize it, they should probably just concede. Especially with the vigi on point.
Given all of that, if you and others are skeptical about the votes, we absolutely can lynch me today. Mafia, serial killer, or vigi (though probably not the last) can chew through my second life tonight, or I can just stay alive until tomorrow. Either way, I’ll reveal the voting trend analysis. Protip, though: it’ll make a better case against somebody who’s already on my list. The game will end quicker if we just lynch a better suspect today.
Right. I thought I dropped that hint pretty blatantly earlier. But yeah, I die once, and I come back to life. I die twice, and I’m dead for good. Hence my slightly crazy play this game. If I get killed, I take a couple of bullets for the team.
What hint did you drop? And you realize the best course of action is to lynch you now to remove your protection. If you are Mafia then this allows us to kill you in one day if deemed necessary, and if you’re not then it’s up to the killing roles at night to deem what to do with you.
I’m leaving until tonight. I fully expect to see this claim you were talking about when I get back. And I want to know exactly what your role card says.
The only surefire way to find out if Pie is speaking the truth is to lynch him or have vigi waste one of his stocks on him. Well we could also hope that mafia or the killer would oblige and test it for us which I don’t find likely and they could just leave him untoched during the night and place more doubt on Pie being civ.
So let’s say that we lynch Pie today and it turns out that he got a 2nd life. Do we concider him clean then and focus on someone else tommorow? Would seem strange to give mafia a two in one like that.
Or you could vote to lynch the most suspicious person. Now that mafia knows I exist, they have a hard choice to make about whether to role-fish or to start working through my lives.
Of course, based on my role, you may decide I now am the most suspicious person. Fine, but once you kill me once, vengeance shall be wreaked upon those who called for it.
Yeah it would suck to waste one of your lifes on a lynch vote and that’s something I would like to avoid. But at the same time we don’t even know if the role exists in the first place.
This might all be academic since a bunch of people have likely locked in on me. But if you’d go for Cyntalan we might have a start.
The true worst outcome here is a tie, naturally. Saving my first life is not worth that outcome. But whoever forced the tie would be the obvious mafia.
Most likely Cynt or someone else among the undecided group in the list I posted earlier.
I did see this post the first time you made it and it tickled my curiosity a bit. No need to answer but I’ll make a quess on your role (if it exists) being related to a now deceased “white” singer?
Hey I just woke up. I am not locked in on you @pietastic, I was just hoping that saying that I voted for you would maybe get you to respond to my post asked you to explain why you called me out specifically for trying to derail the Oerba train (which you still ignored). I’m not all in on voting you and I would be ok with following bious’s last gasp and voting cynt this phase.