he doesnt mean newbie in that sense. He means join date I believe. Its so people dont just make a new account in hopes of getting on both sides and knowing all the information or some shit.
I 'll be honest and say I did confront those people due to your list.
Those 3 people actually pressured me first though.
Still, Doof accusing me was kinda one of the major factors in me searching him.
I get mad and stay mad. Hate 4life.
Oh yeah, Willy - Was LGP intended to be an add-on Day 2, or was he just a late arrival?
Nah, your list wasn’t ignored, tried to push it but during that time was the Shinku debacle and I started trying to push for BJ because i thought he led it as a diversion after we pretty much decided to lynch either Kaz or Oz. But I didn’t see Doof, just Kaz and .Exodus.
It’s hard associating with bad guys like me. I lived a rough life, and I thought you knew what to expect.
I was signed up originally, then they did the check in PM while i was away, so by the time i got back you guys had pretty much already started. I checked in with Pimp Willy a couple hours or something after he started the game up. If he planned it that way or just did it on the fly im not sure
Mafia chat logs…
Gonna post these as I put them together. Somehow I didn’t have the first chat log, but at this first log, Cyntalan and I first began talking over AIM. This is already at the point at which Dramatix and Doof knew we’d be using AIM due to SRK being unreliable. However, you’ll quickly notice that at this point early in the day phase Dramatix is already screwed…
Day 1:
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cyntalan (4:04:26 PM): gotcha
cyntalan (8:09:07 PM): aaaaaaand dramatix is likely fucked at this rate. ^^;
cyntalan (8:11:36 PM): at least Ben’s settin’ himself up for failure if they do end up axin’ him.
kaz (9:46:03 AM): yooooo cynt
cyntalan (9:46:12 AM): oy
kaz (9:46:26 AM): i’ll be on throughout the rest of the day until i leave work. i’ll have to sign on at home later though
kaz (9:46:38 AM): i assume we gotta vote dramatix at this point
cyntalan (9:46:46 AM): ‘s what I did
kaz (9:46:55 AM): lol
cyntalan (9:46:57 AM): good lamb at least
kaz (9:47:05 AM): whats his role again?
cyntalan (9:47:08 AM): enforcer
kaz (9:47:19 AM): hmmm. do you think we’ll miss him much?
cyntalan (9:47:51 AM): will miss him more than the witnessed. 
kaz (9:47:59 AM): lol
cyntalan (9:48:18 AM): doof’s got the fun role, though
cyntalan (9:48:24 AM): especially this early
kaz (9:49:04 AM): i see his last PM, and he’s right. only 6 or so people have admitted to voting for him. it’s still quite a few votes left. you don’t think we can swing it another way?
cyntalan (9:49:15 AM): I’m bettin’ the sherrif’s gonna investigate Ben Perkins at this point. Maybe zoolander.
cyntalan (9:49:47 AM): it’s more a “gonna be hard to convince without making us suspicious, as so many have already done” kinda thing
kaz (9:50:00 AM): right
kaz (9:50:06 AM): ugh
cyntalan (9:50:19 AM): bad start, but I think we can make this work for us
cyntalan (9:50:44 AM): of course, I’ll laugh if the black guy jumps in front of him
kaz (9:50:50 AM): lol
kaz (9:51:54 AM): i’m going through counting the would be votes, i’ve counted 10 or so so far, dramatix is done
kaz (9:53:01 AM): sent in my vote. i’ll brb
kaz (10:22:32 AM): hmmm. whats your strategy on makin’ ‘tix vote for GBS?
cyntalan (10:23:48 AM): zoolander did as well
cyntalan (10:24:39 AM): basically, zoolander’s gettin’ lynched tomorrow. 
kaz (10:24:59 AM): you mean on the day phase?
cyntalan (10:25:03 AM): yeah
kaz (10:25:41 AM): whats our plan for the night phase? i’ve got to scramble and find the witness
cyntalan (10:26:45 AM): I’d say doof should forge Ben or zoo. If we’re setting him up for absolute fail, prolly zoo.
cyntalan (10:27:19 AM): can’t tell if BullDancer is trying too hard or not
kaz (10:28:18 AM): same here
kaz (10:28:29 AM): i’m really leery of BJ and beta
kaz (10:28:44 AM): i think keeping him around too long could potentially be a problem
cyntalan (10:29:01 AM): yeah, I’d say for kill votes, one then the other
kaz (10:29:27 AM): have you spoken with doof on AIM recently?
cyntalan (10:29:43 AM): he hasn’t IMed me yet, don’t know his AIM
kaz (10:31:35 AM): yeah i’m really wishing we had set this up earlier. i’m not even sure when doof gets on SRK but we need him to be around a lot more or it could be game over in record time
cyntalan (11:51:02 AM): gah, why the fuck does SRK have to be such a continual piece of shit?
kaz (11:51:09 AM): lol
kaz (11:51:16 AM): loading slow for you too?
cyntalan (11:51:30 AM): I’d be thankful for a slow load. >_>
cyntalan (11:53:23 AM): “Don’t ask why… I have a reason…” - I can’t fucking tell because of shitty SRK… but do the teen lovers know who each other are?
kaz (11:53:38 AM): yes
cyntalan (11:53:57 AM): so BD and BP are the lovers, I’m assuming.
kaz (11:55:03 AM): what makes you say that?
cyntalan (11:55:23 AM): judging by BD’s insistence that BP is civ
cyntalan (11:56:43 AM): of course, he may be full of shit, but it doesn’t seem like the smartest play to make such an announcement day 1 ("Don’t ask why… I have a reason… ") when no one has a clue who is what. For all he knows, BP could be mafia.
cyntalan (11:56:58 AM): only way he WOULD know is by being one of the lovers.
kaz (11:57:02 AM): true
kaz (11:57:15 AM): i must have missed it. do you have a link by chance?
cyntalan (11:57:25 AM): last post of page 3
kaz (11:59:51 AM): it could be a ploy to get someone to target him and possibly out one of us. i don’t think he’s that dumb to say outright he’s that sure of it
cyntalan (12:00:43 PM): yeah, but it’s all the more reason to say “meh, leave him be”. Unless he’s the carpenter, what he said is foolish at best, dumb at worst.
cyntalan (12:02:34 PM): I mean, one of three outcomes with that statement: he’s either full of shit, one of the lovers, or mafia. We can rule out #3, and #1 is a big gamble if people believe him and BP ended up being mafia after all (something we can rule out but not anyone else).
cyntalan (12:03:21 PM): of course, if sherriff ends up investigating Ben, Doof’ll have forged him and then BD will be “outed”.
kaz (12:05:59 PM): i’m trying to get to page 4 but its loading as slow as molasses. i think my last pm said to forge Ben right?
kaz (12:06:06 PM): if so, then we’re on the right page
cyntalan (12:06:32 PM): yeah
kaz (12:11:01 PM): alright, well lets roll with that plan for now. it’d be pretty hard at this moment for me to try and guess anyone as a witness. i don’t see any reason why anyone would stick out like a sore thumb knowing that i’d be revealed after night 3
kaz (12:11:33 PM): i’ve got to nail some solid guesses and hope whoever the witness is isn’t an experienced player who can sway votes
kaz (12:11:49 PM): that’s why i want BJ or Beta out early, followed by GBS
cyntalan (12:11:57 PM): right
kaz (12:12:20 PM): got any suspicion?
cyntalan (12:13:54 PM): still thinkin’ on it. Though you could take the safe route and investigate GBS, considering we prolly won’t axe him ‘til night 3 unless we find the witness.
cyntalan (12:22:53 PM): ok, wtf
kaz (12:22:55 PM): looks like the story is up
cyntalan (12:23:00 PM): Ben voted for BD? XD
cyntalan (12:23:08 PM): totally the lovers…
kaz (12:23:26 PM): you mean DB voted ben
kaz (12:23:30 PM): BD*
cyntalan (12:24:15 PM): nope, Ben was the only one to have voted for BD
kaz (12:24:33 PM): oh wait i read it wrong
cyntalan (12:24:50 PM): look at that dogpile tho… XD
kaz (12:25:03 PM): alright, well if that’s the case…should we take one of them out or go for a potential bigger threat now?
cyntalan (12:25:37 PM): I would leave them be for now. Neither of ‘em are threats, as the only thing they’re good for is figuring out who the other one is once you kill one
kaz (12:26:42 PM): alright. big threat it is…BJ/Beta?
cyntalan (12:26:57 PM): so far, BJ/Beta/GBS, yeah
kaz (12:27:13 PM): you make the final call sir lol.
kaz (12:27:26 PM): i dunno if we wanna talk with Doof first?
cyntalan (12:27:44 PM): I’ll watch the fallout a bit first, and would like to hear Doof’s opinion as well. Got 12 hours yet.
cyntalan (12:29:44 PM): I wonder how many people hammer on F5 when SRK gets like this… XD
kaz (12:29:58 PM): i know i’ve been doing that all morning
cyntalan (12:34:14 PM): Dramatix did epically fuck up though…
cyntalan (12:34:35 PM): inactive, poor excuse for inactivity, “message” slip…
kaz (12:34:51 PM): i think he got confused. you can’t be silent in this game and i don’t know how accessible srk was to him
kaz (12:34:55 PM): he’s in high school i think
cyntalan (12:34:58 PM): right
cyntalan (12:39:13 PM): at least his sacrifice will be useful
kaz (12:39:52 PM): i hope so. i could see if i went first but my role isn’t as useful as is unless we’re just talking pure numbers
kaz (12:40:03 PM): now i’ve got to hope the person who knows me is an idiot
cyntalan (12:40:12 PM): yeah, but the heat is off the 3 of us
cyntalan (12:40:16 PM): for now
cyntalan (12:40:28 PM): we’re readin’ arctic
kaz (12:42:19 PM): doof’s profile says he’s in new zealand lol. i hope that isn’t really true. what’s the time difference on that
kaz (12:42:45 PM): he’s got to get in here soon. i’m not going to spend my entire friday night trying to nail a strategy
cyntalan (12:42:54 PM): heh
cyntalan (12:42:59 PM): you ec?
kaz (12:43:03 PM): yeah? you?
cyntalan (12:43:10 PM): wc
kaz (12:43:16 PM): lord
kaz (12:43:35 PM): yeah, we gonna have to work this out soon…
cyntalan (12:43:49 PM): well lesse, it’s 6:45 in Wellington, NZ
cyntalan (12:43:58 PM): so he can’t be more than 4 hours behind me
kaz (12:44:47 PM): i guess we can hope to hear from him by at least 2 pm your time which would be 5pm here
kaz (12:45:15 PM): i can hop on AIM when i get home which is usually around that time
cyntalan (12:45:17 PM): I’m bettin’ we hear from him by 3pm your time
kaz (12:46:30 PM): ok. well just so you know M-F you can count on me being up here until 430pm est. after that its a crapshoot after 5pm with the kid at home. i’ll hop on when i know its necessary, but i want to try and get as much stuff done as possible coordinated between us 3
cyntalan (12:46:55 PM): sure
kaz (12:47:39 PM): well, i won’t send in an investigation yet until we talk with him. we should be able to set up a chat between the 3 of us
cyntalan (12:48:56 PM): aim chat’ll work, I think
So with Dramatix pretty much gone on Day 1, we kept looking for Doof who didn’t show up until the last minute of night 1. I think at this point Cynt and I were operating at a two man team until we heard from Doof. Here’s where we thought throwing him under the bus and lynching him on the next day phase would buy us some time.
Night 1:
Spoiler
kaz (18:26:51): ok…what now i guess? has he posted?
cyntalan (18:27:11): fuck no
cyntalan (18:27:13): ^^;
cyntalan (18:27:27): totally awol
kaz (18:27:33): lol.
cyntalan (18:28:50): soundin’ more and more like I’mma gonna have to throw him under the bus tonight
kaz (18:29:49): maybe. i thought i could do that?
cyntalan (18:30:36): I thought we got worried about the witness
kaz (18:30:53): he’s going to find me out anyway
kaz (18:31:03): at least you wont be found out before me
cyntalan (18:31:18): right, which is why I’d be the one to throw him under
kaz (18:31:51): do you always show up when investigated as innocent?
cyntalan (18:31:55): yup
kaz (18:31:59): ok.
cyntalan (18:32:36): I’ll say if GBS (or whoever you investigate) ends up being the witness, I’ll let you take it
kaz (18:33:24): hold that thought
cyntalan (18:34:42): one shot, really
kaz (18:34:48): what’s that?
cyntalan (18:34:48): hmm?
kaz (18:35:20): i don’t have any suspicions about GBS other than he’s a powerful player based on previous games
cyntalan (18:35:29): ah
kaz (18:35:31): i would much rather try for someone else
cyntalan (18:35:56): yeah, I honestly have no clue who could be the witness.
kaz (18:36:33): this sucks man
kaz (18:36:47): i’m so tempted to ask willy to start over and reassign roles its not even funny
cyntalan (18:37:00): but it’s basically one true shot (two if you count the kill). If doof doesn’t make his presence known by 10pm, I’m throwin’ him down.
kaz (18:37:27): i’d wait until 11:56 PM your time until that happens
cyntalan (18:37:32): maybe
kaz (18:37:35): lol
cyntalan (18:37:41): that’s a bit late for me, though. ^^;
kaz (18:37:48): i totally understand
kaz (18:38:36): i would wait until the night phase is totally over, but if he doesn’t show by then, it might be worth it
cyntalan (18:39:10): well yeah, that’d be 9 though. Figure I’d give him an hour or so after.
kaz (18:39:24): its friday and i usually play call of duty with SRK late on this night so i’ll stay up and see what goes on. if he doesn’t show up by 11PM EST it might be worth while for me to throw him under the bus
kaz (18:39:37): i think if you come behind me you won’t look suspicious still
kaz (18:39:45): if i don’t find the witness, i’m done either way
kaz (18:40:00): you just have to chime in after me to fit in
cyntalan (18:40:13): yeah, but not too soon after. ^^;
kaz (18:40:50): how long realistically should we drag this out? 10:30PM EST?
cyntalan (18:41:09): you mean before makin’ the vote?
kaz (18:41:13): yeah
cyntalan (18:41:33): whatever you’re feelin’, I guess. You have hours on me.
kaz (18:41:48): i’m going to guess most of the night actions for civs have been put in well by now
kaz (18:42:10): its all random guesses for them, but we have to make ours count. i’ll be up until 12AM EST tonight more than likely
kaz (18:42:20): so i can wait it out
cyntalan (18:42:28): k
kaz (18:44:13): tell you what
kaz (18:44:29): who do you want to kill with the night kill?
cyntalan (18:44:43): night kill? Beta.
kaz (18:44:56): sounds good.
kaz (18:46:02): i keep wanting to investigate a power player, but something tells me someone’s sitting back allowing themselves not to look funny because they want to wait until after night 3 to find me
kaz (18:46:10): people like Bious, Oerba
kaz (18:46:16): sikwidit
kaz (18:46:22): Beta possibly
kaz (18:46:27): Black Jesus
kaz (18:46:46): let me check the thread to see if anyone else has posted
cyntalan (18:46:59): mostly off topic argument.
kaz (18:47:04): ugh
cyntalan (18:47:52): I’d say this is still far from over, though.
cyntalan (18:48:11): End of night 3 will make or break it, I think.
cyntalan (18:48:53): a dead carpenter and/or dead witness would be enough, I think.
kaz (18:49:27): do you think anyone’s grabbing your attention for carpenter though?
cyntalan (18:49:47): part of why I’m sayin’ beta first.
kaz (18:49:52): bulldancer? or is he one of the teen lovers?
kaz (18:49:53): ok
cyntalan (18:50:03): bulldancer is another thought, yeah
cyntalan (18:50:34): something about beta is off, though.
kaz (18:50:40): agreed
cyntalan (18:50:49): he’s got a role at least
kaz (18:52:42): ok. i’m going to wait a little while longer, see if they make any posts in the thread and check back on AIM say at 930 EST if that works for you
cyntalan (18:52:50): k
kaz (18:53:32): i’ll think about a witness to try and nail down but i’ll see if any posts in the thread might make it jump out. otherwise, you and i both are still waiting on doof
kaz (18:54:19): i say at around 830 pm your time, if we don’t hear from doof, its no point in holding it up, submit your vote for beta and throwing him under the greyhound commences
kaz (18:55:14): i’ll be back in a couple hours probably…
Then finally Doof shows up at the ninth hour before the night phase is over:
Spoiler
kaz (21:14:46): finally
kaz (21:14:56): doof, you got some explaining to do
cyntalan (21:14:57): ^^;
Doof (21:15:23): my bad! but im here, how long till the night phase ends?
cyntalan (21:15:28): about 3 hrs
kaz (21:15:38): 2 hours 45 mins exactly
kaz (21:15:53): we have to get better coordinated man
Doof (21:16:03): sorry bout that haha
Doof (21:16:13): but ben perkins would be the pick to forge?
cyntalan (21:16:19): I think the plan is to kill beta this time around. kaz was gonna do his thing, and we were thinking you forge Ben
kaz (21:17:20): works for me
kaz (21:17:27): doof are you really in new zealand?
Doof (21:17:24): cool
Doof (21:17:32): yeah haha auckland nz
kaz (21:17:43): whats the time difference where you are?
cyntalan (21:17:45): so you’re like 4-5 hours diff from me, right?
Doof (21:17:56): right now its 3:17pm
Doof (21:18:03): where are you?
cyntalan (21:18:06): alright. That’s not too bad of a spread
kaz (21:18:13): he’s 6 hours behind me, i’m east coast time
cyntalan (21:18:23): PST here, smack dab in the middle of you two
Doof (21:18:23): pming pimp willy with the forger choice
kaz (21:18:49): ok. doof, should we not here from you in a timely fashion next time what should we do?
kaz (21:19:00): we were so close to giving you away on the day phase
cyntalan (21:19:06): indeed
kaz (21:20:03): i guess if the trend of voting an inactive continues we can possibly make a play on darabidduckie on the day phase
Doof (21:20:08): I just slept in today is all but should be on more often
kaz (21:20:37): ok
cyntalan (21:20:40): fair enough. I take it you are a bit of a night owl?
Doof (21:21:40): since holidays started yeah
i dont think they’ll be going after inactives anymore at this point in the game
cyntalan (21:22:09): nah, I’m thinkin’ the mob’s gonna jump OZ
kaz (21:22:29): if so, thats where i might toss a vote. i’m going to try and start getting votes in earlier
kaz (21:22:43): it could help us out to start doing that
Doof (21:22:40): OZ and Ben Perkins seem to be on peoples minds as of late but im guessing Ben is safe for now
kaz (21:23:00): so should you forge someone else?
cyntalan (21:23:09): wait, why is Ben safe?
Doof (21:23:26): its just a hunch
cyntalan (21:23:39): if anything, if my guess was correct and the sherrif investigated him, he’s on radar.
Doof (21:23:53): but this is my first time as mafia so im probably not thinking as i should be lol
cyntalan (21:24:11): that, coupled with him being one of the only people to NOT axe Dramatix
kaz (21:24:57): i think you should forge ben. OZ should be lynched next
kaz (21:25:05): we’ll take out beta this night phase
cyntalan (21:25:06): that’s my guess too
kaz (21:25:33): i’m thinking of investigating GBS/Bious/DRD for now
cyntalan (21:25:43): if it does, it’s gonna be mostly thanks to Dramatix’s last stand. XD
Doof (21:25:48): if the sheriff investigates him tonight then thats one more civ down since i’ve forged him this phase
Doof (21:26:15): him=ben perkins
kaz (21:26:25): ok.
kaz (21:26:34): so have all our actions been sent in?
Doof (21:27:12): just sent mine in
cyntalan (21:27:21): I can send in my kill vote whenever, really. Shall I go ahead?
kaz (21:27:29): yeah
kaz (21:27:36): i need to get on mine
kaz (21:27:41): i’m so torn though
kaz (21:28:33): doof what do you think?
cyntalan (21:28:38): alright, SWBeta ded
kaz (21:28:59): anyone stick out to you as a potential witness doof?
Doof (21:29:02): out of the 3 you listed?
kaz (21:29:13): yeah, but anyone else in game?
Doof (21:29:26): im thinking oerba
cyntalan (21:29:28): only other I’d consider is Oerba
Doof (21:29:37): bingo
kaz (21:30:47): alright. i’ll give it a whirl with him. 2 strikes left i suppose
cyntalan (21:31:27): well, one really. The last one is the foul of obnoxiousness, as we DON’T wanna kill him if we find out night 3
cyntalan (21:32:00): at least with the dude alive, people can call bullshit
kaz (21:32:55): alright. sent in oerba
kaz (21:33:22): well, i suppose i’m off for now. doof, will you be on AIM after the night story has been updated?
Doof (21:33:41): thats only in a few hours
Doof (21:33:45): yeah i should be
kaz (21:34:56): i hope so. i should be on then. i’m probably going to jump on OZ as soon as i can on the day phase
kaz (21:35:23): we’ll talk more then. i’m off for a couple hours…
Doof (21:36:48): so rendezvous when the night story is posted
see you guys then
Day 2. Shocked the redneck didn’t kill me…
Spoiler
kaz (00:19:20): sweeeeeet
kaz (00:19:25): i get to stay alive
Doof (00:19:43): thank you mr redneck
cyntalan(00:29:23): nice
kaz (00:29:42): so looks like we were right about beta
kaz (00:29:55): he was a bit too quiet for me
cyntalan(00:29:58): mmhmm
Doof (00:30:39): civs lose 2 and we could possibly gain another, seems like its working out so far
cyntalan(00:31:05): and I’m still expecting zoo to get lynched
kaz (00:32:17): i’m posting now, going to try and work on getting sovi3t to become an alliance. if i can work him i think i can convince someone who’s usually pretty vocal against me to work with me. if it works we should have no heat for a while
kaz (00:32:22): agreed on OZ
cyntalan(00:33:55): so basically we lucked out same as the civs
kaz (00:34:09): yeah
kaz (00:34:48): i’m going to toss in a vote early tomorrow which may conflict with you guys, but i won’t be around through the later part of the day phase
cyntalan(00:35:01): hmm?
kaz (00:35:15): i wont be near a computer
cyntalan(00:35:23): from when ‘til end?
kaz (00:35:40): nevermind
cyntalan(00:35:44): ^^;
kaz (00:35:47): i thought the phase ended tomorrow
Doof (00:35:51): do you guys think we need to do much work to lynch oz?
kaz (00:35:53): we have until sunday
cyntalan(00:35:57): right
cyntalan(00:36:00): I don’t think so, no
Doof (00:36:14): then this phase should be a breeze
kaz (00:36:16): i don’t either but i say lets get on it somewhat early
kaz (00:36:35): don’t want to be lumped into the ‘trying to fit in’ group
cyntalan(00:36:54): I’mma wait a few before making any posts, but I’ll do so before I go to bed tonight
kaz (00:37:26): i just posted. i’m dead tired so i’ll check in with you guys maybe tomorrow via PM
Doof (00:37:51): cool, i’ll post in a bit later too
cyntalan(00:37:57): I say ya gotta start conceeding about GBS, tho
kaz (00:38:22): what do you mean cynt?
cyntalan(00:38:34): he’s made it pretty damn apparent he’s civ already.
cyntalan(00:38:50): better off axin’ him, I think
kaz (00:39:01): well, its just speculation at this point
kaz (00:39:10): not yet
cyntalan(00:39:12): right, but there’s not much to speculate about him anymore. ^^;
kaz (00:39:20): i say keep him around
kaz (00:39:40): i don’t think it looks so obvious to anyone else he’s civ
cyntalan(00:39:59): even though he was first to call out Dramatix and throw him under the bus?
cyntalan(00:40:38): I mean, we were about to do that to doof, sure
kaz (00:40:57): i guess. unless someone wants to try and throw out the possibility they did so to get heat off themselves like we almost did doof
kaz (00:41:14): if someone wants to go that far
Doof (00:41:21): hahahaha uh thanks?..
it would be good for our ‘suspect lists’ to differ though
kaz (00:41:24): its a stretch to try and attempt
cyntalan(00:41:23): yeah, that’s a stretch tho
kaz (00:42:24): well i’ll let you guys do your thing. i’m tired
cyntalan(00:42:28): this is true, though I would still say repeatedly being suspicious of GBS might be a bit much. Not sayin’ to drop him altogether, but to conceed when Sovi3t inevitably disagrees
kaz (00:42:41): ok
cyntalan(00:45:50): BD tryin’ to get the redneck on you
kaz (00:46:09): yeah i see
Doof (00:46:21): damn srk’s being a bitch for me
kaz (00:46:27): might need that forge this round doof
cyntalan(00:47:00): forge is night phase only right?
kaz (00:47:17): yeah, i’m just saying when it rolls around i might need it
Doof (00:47:21): sure but a lot could happen in 36 hours
cyntalan(00:47:22): ah
Doof (00:47:33): but if it looks like you still need it then no problem
kaz (00:54:53): i’m gonna try and lay low for a minute after this
cyntalan(00:57:21): wonder what BD’s gettin’ at with his “please lynch me” bit
kaz (01:01:04): he’s always played that way
Doof (01:01:08): he probably is just a no role civ but we could use that in our favour
kaz (01:01:45): im out guys
Day 2 continued:
kaz (00:54:49): doof? cynt?
cyntalan(00:56:04): derp
kaz (00:56:16): hey who’d you vote for?
cyntalan(00:56:27): haven’t yet, but zoo is my plan
kaz (00:56:34): hmm
cyntalan(00:56:44): mostly ‘cause I kinda committed to it earlier
kaz (00:56:55): i wonder if this bandwagon he’s trying to start will continue against me
cyntalan(00:56:55): if I flipflop to Ben now, it’ll look suspicious
kaz (00:57:00): right
Doof (01:04:24): i think im going with ben, be back later with more though
cyntalan(01:10:11): I think the question is how do we get the heat off kaz
kaz (01:10:41): i’m going to post now. i’m going to try and play on OZ’s inactivity in past games as a way to make him look suspicious
kaz (01:11:03): i dont think anyone’s really voted for me yet though
cyntalan(01:11:15): no, but they mad suspicious
cyntalan(01:11:27): you’re #1 on like, 5 people’s shitlist
kaz (01:11:59): more people have voted for ben though
cyntalan(01:12:11): well yeah
cyntalan(01:12:22): but I’m sayin’ you’re next up on the block at this point
kaz (01:12:38): i think i should be able to get through this phase
cyntalan(01:12:44): oh yes for sure
cyntalan(01:12:53): I’m already callin’ this day as Ben’s fucked
cyntalan(01:13:06): already lookin’ towards our day 3 setup
kaz (01:13:24): who are you guys thinking for night kill? missing person? BJ?
cyntalan(01:13:38): BJ prolly. Either BJ or maybe Bious
cyntalan(01:13:41): maybe
kaz (01:14:02): if we go BJ we can possibly put the heat on MP
kaz (01:19:16): i’m going to bed guys. just wanted to see if there were any new developments
kaz (01:19:36): BJ is next on the hit list
kaz (01:19:39): i’m out…
Night 3:
Spoiler
kaz (20:16:21): whats up guys
cyntalan (20:16:33): sup
kaz (20:16:44): i see i havent missed much
kaz (20:16:46): lol
cyntalan (20:16:51): not really, no
cyntalan (20:17:07): shall we stick with hangin’ BJ, or do you have a better name in mind?
kaz (20:17:40): im nervous about BD, but we cant kill him yet. i say either BJ or MP still
cyntalan (20:17:51): agreed
kaz (20:18:01): i’m fine with either one
cyntalan (20:18:17): BD and Zoo need to stay a while, that’s for sure.
kaz (20:18:53): next night phase we get rid of oerba?
cyntalan (20:19:22): I was thinkin’ Bious, myself.
cyntalan (20:19:35): but who knows what the day holds
kaz (20:19:59): really? right. i need to get my son ready for bed. i’ll be back in 30 mins
cyntalan (20:20:11): k
kaz (20:20:10): hold that thought…
kaz (20:57:53): alright. so you were saying about bious?
cyntalan (21:15:46): oh, just was thinkin’ him over Oerba.
kaz (21:16:18): any reason why?
cyntalan (21:17:06): if only over the suspicion of Bious over Oerba.
kaz (21:18:23): ok. its up to you in the end. i guess we’ll see what happens on the next day phase. i guess i’ll have to contribute something meaningful then as well.
kaz (21:20:02): have you sent in the night kill already?
cyntalan (21:20:01): just did
cyntalan (21:20:04): BJ
kaz (21:20:44): i wonder if we were to change it to MP
kaz (21:21:02): for some reason i think if BJ is gone the heat gets turned up on me
kaz (21:21:19): its like someone can see through the fact that there’s veteran players of the game
cyntalan (21:21:13): hmm… can we change it?
kaz (21:21:23): i dunno
kaz (21:21:27): if you can i would say do so
kaz (21:21:40): i’m having second thoughts about BJ
kaz (21:23:19): i mean
kaz (21:23:48): its up to you, i just know i better have a good explanation as to why i’m not mafia
kaz (21:24:01): i don’t think anyone knows you’ve played as much as me
kaz (21:24:05): as well as some other people
cyntalan (21:24:12): I have?
kaz (21:24:29): o
kaz (21:24:30): ok
kaz (21:24:31): well
kaz (21:24:36): leave it at BJ
kaz (21:24:47): we should be able to focus on a couple other people
kaz (21:25:03): or at least raise suspicion on them anyway
cyntalan (21:25:09): I think I’m pretty damn well under the radar, largely thanks to Beta
Doof (21:25:35): mp is getting some heat now, almost as much as you kaz
Doof (21:26:12): we could try and get bd the next day and mp afterwards
cyntalan (21:26:27): welp, we’ll let Willy decide
Night 3 cont:
Spoiler
kaz (20:16:21): whats up guys
cyntalan (20:16:33): sup
kaz (20:16:44): i see i havent missed much
kaz (20:16:46): lol
cyntalan (20:16:51): not really, no
cyntalan (20:17:07): shall we stick with hangin’ BJ, or do you have a better name in mind?
kaz (20:17:40): im nervous about BD, but we cant kill him yet. i say either BJ or MP still
cyntalan (20:17:51): agreed
kaz (20:18:01): i’m fine with either one
cyntalan (20:18:17): BD and Zoo need to stay a while, that’s for sure.
kaz (20:18:53): next night phase we get rid of oerba?
cyntalan (20:19:22): I was thinkin’ Bious, myself.
cyntalan (20:19:35): but who knows what the day holds
kaz (20:19:59): really? right. i need to get my son ready for bed. i’ll be back in 30 mins
cyntalan (20:20:11): k
kaz (20:20:10): hold that thought…
kaz (20:57:53): alright. so you were saying about bious?
cyntalan (21:15:46): oh, just was thinkin’ him over Oerba.
kaz (21:16:18): any reason why?
cyntalan (21:17:06): if only over the suspicion of Bious over Oerba.
kaz (21:18:23): ok. its up to you in the end. i guess we’ll see what happens on the next day phase. i guess i’ll have to contribute something meaningful then as well.
kaz (21:20:02): have you sent in the night kill already?
cyntalan (21:20:01): just did
cyntalan (21:20:04): BJ
kaz (21:20:44): i wonder if we were to change it to MP
kaz (21:21:02): for some reason i think if BJ is gone the heat gets turned up on me
kaz (21:21:19): its like someone can see through the fact that there’s veteran players of the game
cyntalan (21:21:13): hmm… can we change it?
kaz (21:21:23): i dunno
kaz (21:21:27): if you can i would say do so
kaz (21:21:40): i’m having second thoughts about BJ
kaz (21:23:19): i mean
kaz (21:23:48): its up to you, i just know i better have a good explanation as to why i’m not mafia
kaz (21:24:01): i don’t think anyone knows you’ve played as much as me
kaz (21:24:05): as well as some other people
cyntalan (21:24:12): I have?
kaz (21:24:29): o
kaz (21:24:30): ok
kaz (21:24:31): well
kaz (21:24:36): leave it at BJ
kaz (21:24:47): we should be able to focus on a couple other people
kaz (21:25:03): or at least raise suspicion on them anyway
cyntalan (21:25:09): I think I’m pretty damn well under the radar, largely thanks to Beta
Doof (21:25:35): mp is getting some heat now, almost as much as you kaz
Doof (21:26:12): we could try and get bd the next day and mp afterwards
cyntalan (21:26:27): welp, we’ll let Willy decide
cyntalan (21:26:39): if he says “yeah, you can change it” it’s changed to MP.
cyntalan (21:26:47): ‘cause I already sent in the revision. XD
kaz (21:27:02): ok
kaz (21:27:16): i’m fine with either one. i think MP is slightlty safer
kaz (21:29:33): by the way, i talked to beta last night on the phone
kaz (21:29:35): he’s pissed
kaz (21:29:36): lol
cyntalan (21:30:18): yeah, but ya didn’t say anything, right? XD
cyntalan (21:30:27): that boy likes to really play the game
cyntalan (21:30:48): I remember him doin’ shit IRL last time…
kaz (21:30:56): he’s already discussed most of the game with pimp willy and agreed not to ruin anything, but its pretty safe to say its good we took him out. he had you and i pegged as mafia before anything went down
Doof (21:30:57): poor guy, never lasts long
kaz (21:31:08): yeah
cyntalan (21:31:13): me? Didn’t he say I was civ?
kaz (21:32:04): no, i think he guessed you right as mafia. i think in his gasp he didn’t want to reveal too much. but he said cynt, kaz and a slight suspicion about doof
kaz (21:32:11): there’s no way we would win if he were around
kaz (21:32:14): he was right
Doof (21:32:30): shit good thing hes out
cyntalan (21:32:46): but his last gasp just said that I was straight up civ
kaz (21:33:27): let me check my texts
Doof (21:33:44): i almost feel bad for him now, either hes out first because hes a huge threat as a civ or hes out early because if he was a civ hed be out first haha
cyntalan (21:34:27): "Bulldancer and Orochizoolander are civs. You’re wasting your time suspecting them. Black Jesus is civilian. Cyntalan is civilian."
cyntalan (21:34:43): that’s all he says about me
kaz (21:34:51): in my texts he says he had a list he didn’t have a chance to post, but in his first guess he had cynt and kaz as mafia, doof is a close third but no read yet
cyntalan (21:35:12): that’s funny, ‘cause his last gasp is exactly the opposite on me
kaz (21:35:48): yeah, he said at that point he made another list after he thought more about it and took you off
cyntalan (21:35:55): ah
cyntalan (21:36:05): that’s gonna cost the civs I think, then.
cyntalan (21:36:29): ‘cause Beta basically gave me a free ticket. ^^;
kaz (21:36:41): but initially he was right about me. really it was a good read by both me and him. i told him his post about “why he would explain something later” kind of gave it away that he had a role. it was luck of the draw that he was the witness
cyntalan (21:37:04): how’d he peg us all though?
cyntalan (21:37:07): I don’t get that
kaz (21:37:26): i don’t know
kaz (21:37:30): i guess by our actions
cyntalan (21:37:25): boggles my mind
kaz (21:37:47): he’s played games on TZ where the thread reaches 100 pages or more
kaz (21:37:54): he knows the games people play
kaz (21:38:08): that’s why i was so scared of him
cyntalan (21:38:03): I didn’t play any games though. ^^;
Doof (21:38:09): thats still pretty crazy
kaz (21:38:19): yeah
kaz (21:38:51): i nearly died in my texts because he called me and said i was lucky "you witnessed cult member"
cyntalan (21:39:00): I guess he could have read into my “everyone’s counted for” thing
cyntalan (21:39:04): but I did honestly miscount
kaz (21:39:15): when i tried to act like i didn’t know what he was talking about, he said, "you, doof and cynt think you’re slick"
cyntalan (21:39:35): …yikes
kaz (21:39:45): right
cyntalan (21:39:42): thought Dramatix had posted
Doof (21:39:58): im really surprised he got me since at that point i had posted like twice
cyntalan (21:40:12): no kidding
cyntalan (21:40:35): man, what’s he doin’, hackin’ Willy’s PMs? XD
kaz (21:41:44): well, he guessed us, but he confirmed his guesses later with PW
cyntalan (21:41:46): well yeah
cyntalan (21:41:53): but he pegged all 3 of us. Day 1.
kaz (21:42:10): we talked about the game at that point, he was pretty upset he didn’t have a chance to play the game
kaz (21:42:30): we had a laugh about it, but basically he wanted to screw us over because he pegged us all
cyntalan (21:42:32): XD
cyntalan (21:42:53): I’m really curious what I did to tip him off though
kaz (21:43:31): we’ll have to talk about it when the game is over i guess. it should be hilarious
kaz (21:45:02): in any case, i’m out for tonight. we’re set i think this night phase
From this point on, its kind of fuzzy with the order of things, but I believe this is the day after I had been taken out and Bious investigated Doof ( I believe if Doof wasn’t inactive, he’d have not been investigated. Also, the chat logging is was kind of weird. For some reason it would log Doof/Cynt under the name [srkmafia]
Day 4:
Spoiler
kaz (12:03:31 PM): soviet is being soviet
kaz (12:03:50 PM): he’s never trusted me in any of the 6 games we’ve played despite him being wrong in 4 of them
cyntalan or doof (12:04:14 PM): curious - you runnin’ a ploy regarding the “I know who Sovi3t is”, or do you know what role he is?
kaz (12:05:11 PM): he’s civ. that’s all i know for now just like you do lol. i’m trying to convince others i’m UC right now. at this point anything will work to get the heat off me. if i stick to my guns long enough someone will buy it i think
cyntalan or doof (12:05:43 PM): no, I mean, I didn’t know if you had a good suspicion of what role he may be
cyntalan or doof (12:07:01 PM): or if you were just straight up blowin’ smoke
kaz (12:09:10 PM): for all i know i think he and bulldancer or he and BJ are teen lovers. he could be the UC himself, but i hope that doof can forge me again for one more night should i actually make it through this day phase
kaz (12:09:44 PM): i mean, i get the vibe shinkuu might be the UC and investigated me last night and actually found me to be innocent thus he started to stick up for me before i just posted
kaz (12:10:06 PM): i’ve been trying to get sovi3t on my side since the first night, because usually the game always turns into this war between us
cyntalan or doof (12:10:18 PM): heh
kaz (12:11:45 PM): i hope i’m not actually screwed this day phase and that post was enough to get someone to bite
kaz (12:13:23 PM): what are you thinking so far?
cyntalan or doof (12:13:36 PM): not sure tbh
kaz (12:15:48 PM): ooh
kaz (12:15:52 PM): next post is gonna be good
kaz (12:15:57 PM): i think i’m pulling them in
kaz (12:16:00 PM): lol.
cyntalan or doof (12:21:40 PM): I love when SRK half-loads
cyntalan or doof (12:22:05 PM): makes reading posts hard as hell
kaz (12:32:48 PM): man you learn more and more about this game everytime you play it
cyntalan or doof (12:34:21 PM): soon, you too will be among lynch target #1 along side Beta
kaz (12:34:40 PM): i dont really know why though lol
cyntalan or doof (12:34:40 PM): o
cyntalan or doof (12:34:49 PM): or rather, night kill target
kaz (12:35:13 PM): i’ve been more vocal this game than in previous games, thinking that i could get by trying to be helpful but its been the opposite
cyntalan or doof (12:36:57 PM): man, I think Beta’s gonna be permanently either a night 1 or a day 2 kill. If mafia doesn’t take him out first, he’ll be mad suspect as mafia. XD
kaz (12:37:23 PM): yeah. we talked about that this morning. i don’t see why i would be lumped in there though
kaz (12:37:34 PM): all i did was know swbeta’s good at the game
kaz (12:37:51 PM): i suck at this lol. if i can pull sovi3t on my side i think i’ll be alright though
cyntalan or doof (12:37:58 PM): I’m more goin’ by last game. XD
kaz (12:38:35 PM): i hardly remember how that played out in the beginning
kaz (12:40:52 PM): sovi3t’s going with bulldancer for now looks like
kaz (12:40:59 PM): interesting. they can’t be teen lovers
cyntalan or doof (12:47:24 PM): might be a bait
kaz (12:49:25 PM): could be. i’d be mighty shocked to see he went back on his vote after saying he was going to do so. it looks really suspsious
cyntalan or doof (12:50:25 PM): lol @ willy
kaz (12:50:27 PM): i’m really surprised he’s submitted a vote this early though
kaz (12:52:41 PM): thats weird he didn’t offer to protect anyone
kaz (12:52:47 PM): maybe he didn’t really want to play
kaz (12:53:10 PM): so, are you still thinking bious for night?
cyntalan or doof (12:53:37 PM): I’d say him over Oerba, honestly, but I dunno
kaz (12:54:11 PM): i’m in too far over my head i think. is there any logical target that takes the heat off me at this point?
cyntalan or doof (12:55:11 PM): could hit BD
cyntalan or doof (12:55:46 PM): could hit BD
kaz (12:56:32 PM): but i’ve confirmed sovi3t to be civilian to everyone else. it’d discredit me
kaz (12:56:51 PM): so it couldn’t look like sovi3t is mafia
cyntalan or doof (12:56:53 PM): hmm…
cyntalan or doof (12:57:27 PM): DRD?
kaz (12:59:29 PM): ehhhhhh
kaz (12:59:54 PM): i don’t think that helps either
cyntalan or doof (1:00:12 PM): honestly, I can’t think of any better target than Bious at this point
kaz (1:23:57 PM): ok. i’m heading to lunch. looks like i’m lynched this day phase
kaz (1:26:01 PM): i think its just best to try and claim the UC role now
cyntalan or doof (2:20:06 PM): so basically you’ve now given yourself away to the UC in hopes people’ll buy that you are. Gotcha.
kaz (2:20:27 PM): well
kaz (2:23:05 PM): if doof forged me the other night i was hoping that i raised enough suspicion earlier to be investigated then
kaz (2:23:14 PM): if not, it might have to be for one more night
kaz (2:23:21 PM): i think i’m done at this point anyway
kaz (2:23:48 PM): its turned into the whole swbeta thing with soviet
kaz (2:23:51 PM): every single game
kaz (2:24:59 PM): i should be investigated now
kaz (2:25:13 PM): there’s no way it won’t happen at this point if i’m not taken out this phase
cyntalan or doof (2:25:34 PM): wouldn’t the UC just go “mafia” without even bothering by claiming his role?
kaz (2:25:52 PM): what do you mean?
cyntalan or doof (2:33:31 PM): well, by saying “I’m UC”, that makes the actual UC go “…wait a minute, I’M UC! You scummy liar!” and write you off as mafia.
kaz (2:33:43 PM): but how can they prove it?
cyntalan or doof (2:34:07 PM): by the blatant lie, that’d be enough to not warrant investigating.
cyntalan or doof (2:34:40 PM): it’s not like investigating will suddenly tell everyone you’re mafia.
cyntalan or doof (2:34:51 PM): just the UC
cyntalan or doof (2:35:17 PM): but what’s the point in investigating if you already know?
kaz (2:40:11 PM): you’re right about that part. i didn’t think about that. i think the thing is that 1) i’m still trying to get the heat off, 2) raise doubts about whoever is UC especially if they’re inactive or soviet/BD/BJ and 3) buy myself some kind of time
kaz (2:40:16 PM): i think i’m gone anyway
cyntalan or doof (2:40:32 PM): right
cyntalan or doof (2:41:26 PM): my post incoming is going to question your vote to Shinkuu, though. Hopefully in a way that’s less “pressure” on you and more “other target better”?
cyntalan or doof (2:41:42 PM): what with psycho kill tonight
cyntalan or doof (2:42:10 PM): haven’t posted it yet though
kaz (2:42:22 PM): probably
kaz (2:42:26 PM): i need some help here lol
cyntalan or doof (2:42:54 PM): I know, but I’m not exactly sure how to do that. The suggestion to lynch the psycho target makes this difficult. ^^;
kaz (2:45:19 PM): right…
kaz (2:45:21 PM): ummm
kaz (2:45:34 PM): suspicion was raised already on BD as well as OZ
kaz (2:45:41 PM): whatever happened to OZ being a lock?
cyntalan or doof (2:45:46 PM): no
kaz (2:45:46 PM): why hasn’t anyone come back to that?
cyntalan or doof (2:45:52 PM): no kidding
kaz (2:47:07 PM): if anything maybe we can play up on that
kaz (2:50:36 PM): you’re right there’s no way to question the psycho target though. however have many people decided that psycho should strike?
kaz (2:50:43 PM): if not, it’s totally feasible
kaz (2:50:50 PM): also i need doof to start posting more
kaz (2:51:05 PM): sometimes i think the more known members of the board have it harder in this game
kaz (2:51:21 PM): if i posted twice like he did, better believe i’d be gone after beta lol
cyntalan or doof (2:53:26 PM): yeah
kaz (2:53:49 PM): you live and you learn i guess
kaz (2:54:17 PM): i think we probably should have gotten a general posting strategy down before this went down. it doesn’t work well when people are all over the place
cyntalan or doof (2:54:31 PM): true
kaz (2:54:33 PM): i could have shut up more like in past games
cyntalan or doof (2:54:48 PM): would be nice to have people that are actually around, too.
kaz (2:54:56 PM): i think that’s the biggest thing
kaz (2:55:06 PM): with dramatix being out we needed to post more
kaz (2:55:13 PM): doof isn’t around so its just us two
cyntalan or doof (2:55:16 PM): can’t do mafia without active players
kaz (2:55:31 PM): and there’s only so much i’d expect you to do without putting yourself in my shoes
cyntalan or doof (2:55:31 PM): shoulda thrown doof under the bus. XD
kaz (2:55:35 PM): LOL.
kaz (2:55:41 PM): i have an even better idea
kaz (2:56:07 PM): what if you throw me under? if i’m already being thrown away by civs now?
cyntalan or doof (2:56:20 PM): tempting.
kaz (2:56:21 PM): at least that should buy you and doof a lot of time
kaz (2:56:43 PM): there’s got to be a way that you do it to not claim UC however
cyntalan or doof (2:56:50 PM): we’d need a proper send off
cyntalan or doof (2:57:02 PM): I’ve been trying to hint at bein’ the psycho
kaz (2:57:08 PM): i don’t think anyone has officially sent in a vote so you so could make it short and sweet
kaz (2:57:25 PM): but i want to see if i’m officially gone before that happens
kaz (2:57:31 PM): ugh
kaz (3:04:39 PM): how long do you think we should wait before you throw me under?
cyntalan or doof (3:22:15 PM): I’m more wondering how less than when
kaz (3:22:29 PM): lol
kaz (3:22:47 PM): you’ve got no faith that things will work out for me? lol
cyntalan or doof (3:23:09 PM): let’s just say better to be ed
cyntalan or doof (3:23:14 PM): prepared
cyntalan or doof (4:07:37 PM): man, if doof doesn’t make an appearance by the time I’m off work, I’m about to throw the both of ya under. XD
kaz (4:07:55 PM): at that point civs win if there’s only one mafia member left
cyntalan or doof (4:08:06 PM): all mafia has to go
kaz (4:08:11 PM): oh
kaz (4:09:56 PM): i think we were all excited to play the game and then it goes this way. this is probably the worst mafia game i’ve been a part of
cyntalan or doof (4:11:25 PM): ^^;
kaz (4:12:39 PM): i know last game beta was part of the mafia with me and it seemed to be fun. the rest were fun too, but this one is different when we dont have a competent team
kaz (4:23:03 PM): i’d hate to say it but if you guys are a hair more vocal i might be saved this phase. basically it looks like they’re following
kaz (4:23:11 PM): following more vocal people
kaz (4:23:30 PM): if doof would come in we could swing votes shinkuu’s way i think
cyntalan or doof (4:24:09 PM): I have a feeling that if Shinkuu is lynched, you’ll get strangled.
kaz (4:24:55 PM): maybe. unless someone decides for sovi3t instead or BD?
cyntalan or doof (4:33:21 PM): I’ll try to sway to BD
kaz (4:35:17 PM): cool. i’m out. i’ll check back tonight around 430PM your time
cyntalan or doof (4:35:22 PM): k
Day 4 cont:
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kaz (7:38:51 AM): sorry guys
kaz (7:39:03 AM): i was still signed on to AIM on my work computer
kaz (7:41:31 AM): i figured you guys had it all under control. there’s not much for me to do other than save the logs lol
kaz (8:07:21 AM): also, cynt, i don’t think OZ is the sympathizer
cyntalan (9:52:27 AM): no?
kaz (9:52:42 AM): looks like you’re in now
kaz (9:53:26 AM): what’s new with the mafia game?
cyntalan (9:54:20 AM): Duckie still throwin’ himself under, as is zoo
cyntalan (9:54:37 AM): and BJ, actually
cyntalan (9:57:39 AM): I still don’t know why those three are all “let doof live” despite my concrete reason as to why this is stupid. ^^;
kaz (9:59:33 AM): lol
kaz (9:59:42 AM): i guess let them make their mistake lol
kaz (9:59:51 AM): would you still vote doof anyways?
cyntalan (9:59:58 AM): yes
kaz (10:00:01 AM): lol
cyntalan (10:00:15 AM): dumbass outed himself, and the sympathizer still roams
cyntalan (10:00:27 AM): why give him an instant means to turn cult?
kaz (10:00:31 AM): we should have it in the bag i would think. take bious out next and you’re in the clear for a while
cyntalan (10:00:49 AM): I’m not so sure
kaz (10:00:58 AM): you think he’s bluffing?
cyntalan (10:01:06 AM): well, it’s not that
cyntalan (10:01:21 AM): I’m sure he’s sheriff
cyntalan (10:01:47 AM): but I’m betting that the sympathizer doesn’t live long enough to turn, so his role becomes useless
cyntalan (10:01:56 AM): meanwhile, there’s a CARPENTER out there
kaz (10:03:16 AM): who do you think that is?
cyntalan (10:03:31 AM): frankly, I don’t think this will be a win unless I get that SOB either tonight or get him lynched tomorrow
cyntalan (10:04:03 AM): I wanna say either Oerba or BullDancer at this point
kaz (10:04:13 AM): you might be right
cyntalan (10:06:02 AM): my thought right now is if I’m 100% positive zoo is redneck target, I’m killing BD. If I can’t guarantee that, I’m killing Oerba.
cyntalan (10:06:24 AM): my concern is the redneck might go after BD
cyntalan (10:06:39 AM): silly to waste a night kill
cyntalan (10:07:33 AM): what bothers me is that the thread’s gone silent
kaz (10:07:59 AM): well, i think that means a number of them know who’s who at this point
cyntalan (10:08:09 AM): right
kaz (10:08:16 AM): the only thing to change it would be a night kill that shakes up the entire thing
kaz (10:08:50 AM): i mean, bious is a safe kill to keep you safe, but BJ or Sovi3t isn’t necessarily a bad thing
cyntalan (10:09:06 AM): not touchin’ Sovi3t any time soon
cyntalan (10:09:54 AM): only one of ‘em that has even considered me. Last thing I need is someone dead by mafia hands who threatened me
kaz (10:10:09 AM): right. i didn’t read that
cyntalan (10:11:59 AM): and BJ seems to be doin’ damage to himself
kaz (2:27:18 PM): right
kaz (2:27:39 PM): i think you can pull it off
End game discussion:
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kaz (10:46:45 AM): so what happened at the end of the game?
cyntalan (11:14:04 AM): knew I walled myself in. ^^;
kaz (11:14:21 AM): lol. i didn’t even bother to read but what happened?
cyntalan (11:15:09 AM): BJ called carpenter
cyntalan (11:15:18 AM): I couldn’t really do much at that point
cyntalan (11:15:39 AM): counterclaim it or go with it, I was dead.
kaz (11:15:50 AM): ouch
kaz (11:15:58 AM): well, i guess its time to post the logs lol
cyntalan (11:23:05 AM): although if LGP had picked me instead of Redbeard and I claimed it, I suppose he coulda gone on
kaz (11:23:18 AM): i didn’t think we’d win this game man
cyntalan (11:23:21 AM): but he didn’t anyway
cyntalan (11:23:30 AM): yeah, I just thought I’d get at least to one more night phase
kaz (11:23:44 AM): it started out the wrong way and was to hard to steer in the right direction
kaz (11:23:49 AM): i certainly didn’t help either
There’s more, but I can’t exactly match everything up date/time stamp wise, but you get the gist of almost everything I suppose. The rest of the logs I have were random game discussion with Cyntalan and I. Doof wasn’t around much as far as I know…
1/10, will not use AIM chat again.
IRC would definitely be the way to go for future mafia where you are paranoid of people searching your profile for excessive PM use, not to mention its logging is a hell of a lot better. However, don’t use EFNet. Last thing you want is for someone to see you in #srk-lounge or #capcom or something and take a look at what other rooms you’re in.
I believe you can use other screen names though to make it less easily traceable, which is why I wanted to do it in the first place. Plus no one in these games typically goes to #srk-lounge
YJDK…I could return.
Go to a lesser known server like freenode and use a multi server client. Even use aliases in that other server, because you still just don’t know.
And PW, don’t change a thing, except make these things more frequent. The story was what KEPT me coming back after I was offed (and I love my offing, seriously, I loves me some Subway.)
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I do. 
I’m thinking about running the next one. I feel kind of burned out though. I’ll give it a few weeks and we’ll see what happens.
You must have just started using it.
Oh yea for anyone that wanted to know what BJ was talking about when he said I fucked up out of game.
Well SRK was bullshitting and told me I had a new message halfway into the day after I was posting believing I was a citizen after reading the role position that Willy had already sent me. Well the new message(which wasnt new) was titled SRK Mafia Checkin and only had a few people in it. So I had a massive brain fart and did not look at the date and thought that I was supposed to be mafia so I replied to the message pretty much letting everyone in that message know that I was indeed a citizen.
So that is what Black Jesus meant by that. Not like it mattered since I still got shot in the face.
Sorry, since the game ended I haven’t been on a computer, so all my posts have been from my phone/tablet which sucks for typing.
For the whole LimeGreenPatato thing, what happened is he signed up and made the original 20 player list. As we got closer to the game, he hadn’t signed in since signing up, so I was nervous he wouldn’t show up. Kept trying to find replacements, but nobody wanted in. So then I went ahead and planned that if he didn’t show up, I’d axe the mafia sympathizer role and just run a 19 man game.
So then I sent out a few group PMs with people who hadn’t confirmed yet, and LGP was on one of these PMs.
So come game start time, he hadn’t checked in. So I assigned the roles with a random number generator, got everything set up, sent out PMs, and put up the game thread/story around 6:30.
And then at 8:00 PM, LGP responded to the PM stating that “He was away, but is back and ready for the game.”
So, an hour and a half after the game started, our 20th player was checking in.
Because I liked the idea of the 20 player game, and given the nature of the role that was removed, I told him to hang tight and I would work him into the story for day 2. So it wasn’t planned from the start, but I always had a plan in the back of my mind in case we got a 20th person last second.
So I came up with the story of a new survivor stumbling onto the camp, and paired it with a new role added to the game that meant the newly added person would probably be distrusted heavily. It worked in the sense of a zombie apocalypse at least, and it added an interesting twist to the game, without upsetting the balance too much. I regretted it partially because a potential 5 mafia to 15 civ game would be heavily civ favored, but I felt like the Carpenter role threw traditional balance and game choices out the window anyway, so I rolled with it.
Funnily enough, the PM I sent out had BJ, LGP, Dramatix, Bious and SikWidIt on it with the title “Mafia Checkin.” This was sent out a few days before the game started.
On day 1, Dramatix was lynched and was mafia. And then during night 1, SikWidIt posted to this checking PM the following:
He had stumbled upon a PM called “Mafia Checkin,” and then saw that Dramatix was on the PM thread, and assumed he had accidently been shown all the mafia members, and was going to be honest and leave the game because of this mistake. Of course he misunderstood the post, it wasn’t the actual mafia people, just a checkin for the game.
But essentially, he had outed himself as a civ to 4 other players (LGP, Bious, BJ, and Dramatix), really 2 since LGP wasn’t in the game yet and Dramatix was dead. Luckily, I already had a PM from Sovi3t to kill SikWidIt, so this mistake could resolve itself without me having to DQ anybody. But had Sovi3t been on that PM, it would have been a different story.
This is what BJ was talking about, when he was flabbergasted that the Redneck would kill somebody who had come out and confirmed himself civ, and later said it wouldn’t be fair to use such info in game and dropped it.
But it made for an interesting moment : )
I’m also really glad everyone enjoys the story, it takes a bit of time doing creative writing like that. I haven’t really written anything in a long while, since school days, so it’s fun to get the creative juices flowing again. I always tell my wife I’m going to write a fucked up collection of zombie short stories one day, so it was fun to kind of get a feel for that. I would need to expand my adjectives and invest in a thesaurus though! Some of the story bits ended up being rushed, mostly because we do Family night here on fridays, and due to my fuckup that meant 2 fridays in a row had stories due at 9PM, right in the middle of the family time. So some of the updates came late; other times I had written them a day early when I knew what was going to happen. A few votes came down to the last minute so I had to write them at the deadline, and sometimes would take about an hour and a half just to do it.
But I got the impression it was a hit, I had people PMing me for story death suggestions. Cyntalan wanted Doof or DRD to die in a pile of bullshit to reflect their in game arguments; I couldn’t do it because then it would be like giving away that their lists and arguments were bullshit! DRD wanted an epic death saving all the citizens, I had planned to move the game outside the mall and onto the streets had the carpenter died so I couldn’t do that for his death, but at least he died saving the carpenter making the death somewhat epic.
I’m also nervous writing the story, because I don’t want to accidently leak roles just because of the choices I make characters. If I avoid making Cult/roles say certain things, then I risk leaking story clues. If I make them say other things, then I risk leaking story clues. It’s a fine balance and I’m always worried I’ll post a story, and people will be like “oh, so XXX is YYY I can tell from the story.” But so far I don’t think I’ve done anything quite like that. I just have fun trying to pull off parallel stories, throw twists into what you think is happening (Redneck Masturbation, Redneck killing OZ instead of the cult leader, rewinding time with SWBeta and SikWidIts deaths) so I’m just glad other people enjoyed it, and it wasn’t just in the way of the game
Edit: the LGP thing really makes me suspicious that LGP is just an alt account for somebody who doesn’t want us to know their real account. Signs up for the game, doesn’t sign in until the game goes live, and within an hour or two of the post going up, he’s back checking in. But I don’t know who it could be
I enjoy the stories. I’d like to run a game soon. I’ll fight kaz for it.
You can have it before me. I suck at stories :bluu:
I just want to see new people in on the game more than anything.
It was good seeing some fresh blood this one - sikwidit, Missing Person, Redbeard, Exodus, and DaRabidDuckie - good to see three of the regulars in GD up in here.
I’d like to get back to playing too, as much fun as running one is, it’s a different beast as a player.
I did think about bringing back the Werewolves vs Vampire game Doof, but… it felt wrong to bring it back after a long break. That game will be massively complicated. So maybe I will get back to that one the next game I run, once people are back into the mafia swing of things. A 3 faction game where roles/players are recruited to either side can get… crazy.
Also, SWBeta was wanting to bring back the Marvel game for another shot, with some minor role rebalance. I personally think if we’re gonna do marvel, we should do 20 players with 20 roles, and just have it be a crazy game. Marvel wasn’t balanced, why should Marvel Mafia worry about balance? (But still, fuck that Phoenix taking out 1/2 the mafia lol)