How about the 2 players be BullDancer and Exodus. then?

Ive already voted BullDancer.
pietastic voted BullDancer.
DRD voted pietastic.

At this point its evident that some players are against the 2 suspect vote criteria. In my opinion only Mafia would push against it. DRD can be replaced on the stand with Exodus. I’m sticking with BullDancer though.

If they’re both Mafia we can’t miss (unless people go against the strategy and vote elsewhere).

BD and Exodus seem to be good candidates @Jotaro, but why not Co-Jones? They’ve been acting almost identical to one another.
@BullDancer Sorry to do this if you were telling the truth

BullDancer is Guilty

@sikwidit why would Mafia care about voting off Saitsu if Oerba & Saitsu are both civs? Are you saying that it’s unlikely that 80% of the mafia voted for the same guy?

“They” refers to Exodus and Co-Jones, by the way.

In my mind, DRD’s sketchy behavior is way more suspect than people voting for Saitsu… it IS a factor, though. I am comfortable having BD and Exodus be the candidates, but my vote stands right now. DRD is high there, and I will continue asking people to consider Co-Jones.

Ok then I will vote exodus.
also please tell me if you have any concerns about my thinking that way. personally i just cant see mafia only putting cyntalan down there on saitsu.

any reason you choose him over akuma hax?

@radicalfuzz it does not matter who the people were all that matters is that there were two people everyone was gunning for so they could easily hide amongst the voters. what I was saying is what you said about 80 percent.
when they have two people to bandwagon on, i cant see them putting all their guys on just oerba.

Exodus is Guilty

I will not have a tie, if need be I will switch my vote.

WTF-AKUMA-HAX is a definite possibility, but he hasn’t done anything that stood out to me. Which might be a reason in and of itself, now that I think about it.
I see what you’re saying about the mafia not putting everyone on Oerba. We have to keep in mind everyone who didn’t vote for Oerba then, not just those who voted for Saitsu. Between the two there were only 22 votes out of 29 (crotch edited lol) people. That’s 14 people that didn’t vote for Oerba.

BullDancer is GUILTY

Oh, and If he is…Who was it that said something like, “Why would you waste a night action on [DRD]?”

trust me i have which is why Pimp is on my suspicions list. There are usually 1 to 2 outliers because the outliers usually get picked off first or at the least heavily suspected at the beginning of the game.

I still have my doubts about BullDancer, so I’m going to go with Exodus is Guilty. I really don’t like the fact that he hasn’t lynched a single Mafia, and it will keep up with the whole two party voting system The Chief was recommending.

one of the things that rubbed me the wrong way about hax was that at one point it seemed like he was trying to rally suspicion against me by putting words into my mouth. I dont have a problem with people being suspicious of me but I do when they say i did something i did not or said something I did not. I will go back and look at who seems to bemore suspicious.

I’m trying to keep in mind the possibility that there may be fewer than 5 Mafia left.

Anyway, note that DRD is the only one so far that did not vote with the strategy.

I have a feeling that BullDancer is going to slip out of this. If Exodus is Civ, GoBotsRevenge shoots to the top of my list.

GoBots went from pointing out BullDancer could be innocent to… “I have my doubts about BullDancer”… then votes Exodus.

#suspect

@The_Chief
Understandable. I’ll be sure to do the same if BullDancer comes up innocent.

At least DRD didn’t just vote No Lynch. He actually kinda made a good point about pie wanting him out of the game so bad.

Can anybody give me the cliffnotes version of Bulldancer that makes everyone have him on their lists? He wasn’t on my radar at all. In fact, I was kinda relying on him being a strong voice end game to help us win… what is it I’m missing?

going back to day 2, I just reread the thread, and the people I see pushing Bious the most are Bulldancer (immediately) and Cyntalan (a little later on). Icege mentioned Bious in his last gasp, but BD had put in his vote even before that came out (though I know there was talk day 1 too).

Bious ended up being Mafia. Cynt ended up being Mafia. I have a hard time believing that BD would come up mafia as well; that would mean that 2 mafia ended up pushing the lynch hard on a third mafia, and then they managed to fail the lynch anyway. That would be crazy mafia strategy. At the time I didn’t suspect Bious so much that I remember, but everyone here seems to think they were 100% on board with Bious and it was clear that Mafia was just throwing him under a bus. I don’t buy that 100%, in fact if BD is actually Mafia, that will be one strategy I want them to clarify for us because it sounds to me like people are suggesting Mafia started, pushed, and then ultimately failed a lynch against their own out of the blue… is that really what people believe?

I am said Saist was off the table again now. I had forgotten he was a day 1 candidate, but day 1 is always a crapshoot anyway. He’s my #1 candidate this round.

as for Exodus vs BD, this puts me in a tough spot. Exodus caught my eye, and I still think its’ weird nobody wanted to even examine him at all, but moving past that on my lists, he should be clean as he’s grouped with Cynt who was Mafia.

BD, I don’t buy for the above reasons, but everyone seems pretty sure on him so I’d like to know what I’m missing.

Can I just vote pietastic with DRD and call it a round?

You’re going to put me on top of your suspects list automatically if BullDancer comes up Innocent?

I wouldn’t agure against it but I hope your evidence will be more than just because I did it to you. =]

Not specifically you, just people who voted for him. Sorry if it seemed like a threat.

Main Reason: BullDancer has implied some very difficult-to-believe statements. The main one of which was roleclaiming UC. Currently 67% of people who have roleclaimed have been mafia.
Secondary Reason: He said Cyntalan was innocent and tried to dissuade us from lynching someone we now know to be mafia. He hasn’t addressed the fact that he called UC and told us not to lynch Cynt and that’s something I need him to answer to before I can change my vote (not counting tie-breaking of course)

You’re using Noodle’s mathematics right PW? If it’s similar to what he used for his list last game then I think there might be a small problem with it. He had SoVi3t and I listed as “1 of 2” when we were both mafia. It’s possible that multiple mafia are in the same category. I think he also had Ragna and Wonkey listed the same way and they were also mafia.

@PW.

No. Either BD or Exodus are to be voted on to reduce where Mafia can hide their identities.

BullDancer was basically role hunting. Trying to find out who the UC was and then tried to pit it on me when we clearly stated our remaining roles should lay low.

If you suspect a teammate has a role, why call them out in the thread… unless you’re Mafia.

Let me ask you. Why pietastic?

I mentioned absolutely nothing about being the UC…

It’s whatever though… for better or for worse I think we got this game in the bag…

Why would I ask about the UC just to claim it later, and based on that logic why would I say I trusted The Chief if I was the UC…

I’m not mad at yall though… for saying that I didn’t mind going down via lynch I’m still kinda butthurt about this :rofl: