I’ve been running Elena/Julia and I feel like I might have to drop Elena. The tag combos from Elena to Julia are great but going from Julia back to Elena leaves a lot to be desired since Julia doesn’t have any moves that leave the opponent standing for max damage. So the best switch cancel combo is off Julia’s DP which Elena can get anything outside of c.MP xx Rhino Horn. Does anybody have any ideas? I don’t want to drop her.<br>
Now I don’t play Julia/Elena though I feel I should really put forth the effort. I’ll do some testing later but based off your example, try cr.mp, st.mk > cr.hp, df.hk
My god. I thought I was done. That is good stuff. Better damage than what I had and ends in a hard knockdown. Now we’re talking. Thank you based Gemakai.<br>
<font face=“Arial”>Getting a character who cover’s Elena’s matchup weaknesses is just as important as combo synergy in this case. Sure, it’s great to be able to tag from a move that leaves the foe standing so that you can get in a Target Combo 2, but it’s also important to have a character who benefits from having Elena while also benefitting her. That’s why Elena X Dudley is so good, IMO. Elena builds meter well and has great pokes, making her ideal to set up for Dudley to enter. Dudley deals good damage and has effective high-lows, all the while providing Elena with a great Tag Cancel combo move (Machinegun Blow). Another example is Kazuya: he could go in front or behind in this matchup, but he definitely benefits from meter (while Elena does as well) while still having a move that allows Elena to tag in on a standing opopnent. <span style=“line-height: 1.7em;”>I’m going to keep working with both teams to try and figure out tech. </span></font>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/15649/Blackout%202021">Blackout 2021</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>My god. I thought I was done. That is good stuff. Better damage than what I had and ends in a hard knockdown. Now we’re talking. Thank you based Gemakai.<br></div>
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Always happy to help friend. 
Edit: Another post tag idea is similar but potentially yields more damage: st.MK>cr.HP, cr.MP xx DP.HK<br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/59565/Links">Links</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”><font face=“Arial”>Getting a character who cover’s Elena’s matchup weaknesses is just as important as combo synergy in this case. Sure, it’s great to be able to tag from a move that leaves the foe standing so that you can get in a Target Combo 2, but it’s also important to have a character who benefits from having Elena while also benefitting her. That’s why Elena X Dudley is so good, IMO. Elena builds meter well and has great pokes, making her ideal to set up for Dudley to enter. Dudley deals good damage and has effective high-lows, all the while providing Elena with a great Tag Cancel combo move (Machinegun Blow). Another example is Kazuya: he could go in front or behind in this matchup, but he definitely benefits from meter (while Elena does as well) while still having a move that allows Elena to tag in on a standing opopnent. <span style=“line-height: 1.7em;”>I’m going to keep working with both teams to try and figure out tech. </span></font></div>
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I’ve been pondering Dudley more and more lately. Remind me does st.HK force a stand? If so, I definitely want to experiment with the team.<br><br>Also, who doesn’t love a special official team intro?<br><br>Edit 2: So messed around in training mode tonight. Not only does st.HK but so does MGB, so a stray cr.MP hitting ends up being incredibly huge when you have a meter to cancel to Elena to do… well… almost anything.<br><br>Ken also works but he pushes them away so it’s a bit harder to get too much more damage and he needs to do cr.HP, which I thought was linkable from one of his lights but I might be wrong there.<br><br>Vega is a good point partner too… but that goes with out saying. He has the benefit of HK ST juggling the opponent high enough for j.MP > j.HP to connect.<br><br>Seriously though, considering switching out Paul for Dudley… considering anyway. I might play both for the hell of it unless I can find a better partner for Paul<br>
<div><font face=“Arial, Verdana”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>_</span></font></div><font face=“Arial, Verdana”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>elena x julia is good, and does hella damage</span></font><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”>off julia dp, </div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”> elena j.mp xx j.hp, land, s.mk xx c.hp set up a 4 way mixup if they quick tech (does 406 off julia hk dp raw) the mixup is:</div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”><ul><li><span class=“Apple-tab-span” style=“white-space: pre;”> </span>forward jump or slight walk back jump mk for front high<br></li><li><span class=“Apple-tab-span” style=“white-space: pre;”> </span>super jump forward j.mk for crossup high<br></li><li><span class=“Apple-tab-span” style=“white-space: pre;”> </span>forward jump or slight walk back empty jump c.lk hit confirm c.lk, c.hp launch for same side low<br></li><li><span class=“Apple-tab-span” style=“white-space: pre;”> </span><span style=“font-family: ‘lucida grande’, ‘Lucida Sans Unicode’, tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 1.7em;”>super jump forward empty jump c.lk hit confirm c.lk, c.hp launch for cross up low</span><br></li></ul></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”><span style=“font-family: ‘lucida grande’, ‘Lucida Sans Unicode’, tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 1.7em;”><br></span></div><div>elena’s job on that team is to build meter and get out safe up close, which is where julia shines</div><div><br></div><div>elena can safe tag off pretty any blocked normal (xx rh lynx tail [rdp]), if it hits julia can keep them standing and continue comboing w/ f. hp</div><div><br></div><div>the team is hella solid.</div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”><blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/15649/Blackout%202021">Blackout 2021</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>I’ve been running Elena/Julia and I feel like I might have to drop Elena. The tag combos from Elena to Julia are great but going from Julia back to Elena leaves a lot to be desired since Julia doesn’t have any moves that leave the opponent standing for max damage. So the best switch cancel combo is off Julia’s DP which Elena can get anything outside of c.MP xx Rhino Horn. Does anybody have any ideas? I don’t want to drop her.<br></div>
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When you say it’s off Julia DP, is that off hitting a jump in with it?<br>
No, I mean off a punish or something. Like say I block a DP and I go to punish with say c.FP xx DP switch cancel. What you posted definitely works. I just need to get the muscle memory down.<br><br>Also Rochus I’ll try what you posted when I wake up later on and see where it gets me. As it stands right now I really like this team. I just need to get my Elena footsies on point so I can do damage with Julia.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/17178/Gemakai">Gemakai</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>When you say it’s off Julia DP, is that off hitting a jump in with it?<br></div>
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I meant hitting dp neutrally, not as anti air. Julia uses light dp as anti air which doesn’t get any extra damage via tag canceling <div><br></div><div>I will run Elena Julia and Elena bear at our local Ranbats so I’ll get some footage up for the threads</div>
Hey guys i really want to do Juri/Elena because i think they would work good together…i just dont know any if Juri would better be suited as point or anchor in this team…i also wanted to try Elena/Paul or Elena/Cody. my main team is Juri/Marduk…i just dont have a clue as to who Elena would fit with best…any advice?<br>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/45165/StormSurge91">StormSurge91</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Hey guys i really want to do Juri/Elena because i think they would work good together…i just dont know any if Juri would better be suited as point or anchor in this team…i also wanted to try Elena/Paul or Elena/Cody. my main team is Juri/Marduk…i just dont have a clue as to who Elena would fit with best…any advice?<br></div>
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I can’t really comment on Juri/Elena or Elena/Cody without testing with them. As a player of Elena/Paul, they go together pretty well I’d say. Elena helps Paul get in, while Paul lays on the damage.
Elena/Cody is a team I tried out once. It’s pretty okay. They have good combo synergy thanks to Criminal Upper, and either character can be the point.
I’ve been playing Elena X Bryan and have found it to be particularly good in certain match-ups. Their team combos are easy to execute and do high damage, and I feel their styles mesh pretty well.
Example team combo starting with Bryan:
[472] Double Back Knuckle, Close HP xx HP Snake Pit TC (on first hit), Elena j. HP, St. MK xx Cr. HP, MK/HK Scratch Wheel
Instead of finishing with the target combo to Scratch Wheel, you can use Cr. MP xx MK Rhino Horn for a hard knockdown instead. Or, you can use Slide after the target combo.
Example team combo starting with Elena:
[446] Cr. MP, Cr. MP xx MK Rhino Horn, Cr. MP xx MK Rhino Horn, HK Scratch Wheel TC, Bryan F + MK, MP, LP, MP, Mach Breaker
In the corner, you can finish with Cl. MP, Cl. MP, Cl. MP, Cl. HP xx Mach Breaker for 1 more damage.
Another cool team combo starting with Elena, works on crouchers:
[397] Cr. MP, Cr. MP xx HK Lynx Tail TC, Bryan dash forward (making the last hit of Lynx Tail whiff), Cl. MP, Cr. HP xx H Fisherman’s Slam, Atomic Throw, Cr. LP xx MK Flying Knee.
I can dig it