So how does blazblue play in terms of streetfighter?

[Canto]

SF4: Get hit>fall down.
GG: Get hit>20+ hit combo starts>go make a sandwhich>take a bath>organize your magazine collection>fall down>pray you don’t get hit again.

(huge generalization (not to be taken seriously))

[T37_Rampage]

SF4: Get hit>fall down.
GG: Get hit>20+ hit combo starts>go make a sandwhich>take a bath>organize your magazine collection>fall down>pray you don’t get hit again.

(huge generalization (not to be taken seriously))

This really is one of the big reasons I dislike GG/BB. Watching myself get flung around like a ragdoll for 20 seconds at a time grates on my nerves like nothing else. I’d rather get hit once and take 50% than watch it chip away slowly over the course of a 60 hit combo.

[Carthage]

This really is one of the big reasons I dislike GG/BB. Watching myself get flung around like a ragdoll for 20 seconds at a time grates on my nerves like nothing else. I’d rather get hit once and take 50% than watch it chip away slowly over the course of a 60 hit combo.

No way man that would make the youtube videos boring. Gotta be flashy.

[System_1]

Lol @ the exaggerations in this thread

[T37_Rampage]

No way man that would make the youtube videos boring. Gotta be flashy.

But the youtube videos ARE boring.

[mooyang90]

Blazblue is just one big combo video.

[BlodiaVulcan5]

:3 That was a bit much, but hopefully it made sense and is useful for you to understand the difference between games.

One of the best and clear explanations of the Guilty Gear system to a newbie. I rep you, sir.

And the exaggerations in this thread are actually not very far off. GG/BB are like the “Bullet Curtains” of fighting games. (Bullet curtain = shmups = shoot-em-ups).

[tatsunical]

SF4: Get hit>fall down.
GG: Get hit>20+ hit combo starts>go make a sandwhich>take a bath>organize your magazine collection>fall down>pray you don’t get hit again.

(huge generalization (not to be taken seriously))

this sounds about right!

shit’s discouraging when you get hit in these games

[Rabbit2k7]

Alright, here is my comparison for you.

*key terms to learn!
okizeme: "getting off the ground"
abare: “converting random hits into big damage”
*

Street Fighter focuses on footsies and strong ground games. To become the best player at the game, you must master the range of characters, as one whiffed attack can be punished heavily. Also, ground strings are very simple and to the point, with limited mix-up potential after 1-2 hits. Combos generally only start from the ground, and are rewards for the opponent not blocking a cross-up correctly, or whiffing an attack at a terrible range. Counter-hits generally do not reward you in obvious ways. In some games, meter management is very critical also, as it allows you to have an advantage later in the round.

Guilty Gear series focuses on the same issues as above, but add the concepts of okizeme and abare. The goal is to knock the opponent down in any way, and set up your okizeme pressure. Imagine if you could use Ryu, and trip someone. Then, throw a fireball and cancel it, and jump at them. They have to guess 3 ways as to what you will do next. If they don’t block that fireball, they get hit, and you get another knockdown and the process repeats. If you hit them with high, low, or throw… those are your okizeme options.

Guilty Gear also focuses on Abare, which is the concept of, say… Ryu hitting someone with a max range crouching forward. In most SF games, the most you’ll get is a fireball / super. However, imagine you could cancel it the fireball (again) and go into a huge air combo. Converting that tiny hit into a much bigger combo is a huge deal. However, Guilty Gear lets you do many different ways. Sometimes though a perfect anti-air, you get a 15% combo. A perfect risky attack may lead to a counterhit, giving the attack ground bounce abilities, wall bounce abilities, wall stick, etc. Playing strong footsies with characters can lead to counterhits that lead to 50% damage.

Now, Blaz Blue adds additional concepts to traditional Guilty Gear game play. While Guilty Gear focused more on guaranteed okizeme situations, where the opponent has to deal with your attacks, Blaz Blue gives you 4 ways of getting off the ground. They have varying risks, but prevent the type of knockdown -> generic block attack -> mix-up game play that is prevalent in Guilty Gear. With a strong understanding of your risks, and the rewards, you can escape okizeme situations.

Another interesting concept is the one of “being helpless in a combo”. Normally, when you play Guilty Gear. combos can last quite a while. There is never a reason to tech, because nobody practices techable combos that may do more damage, unless they suck. So, the best strategy is generally never tech. BlazBlue’s ground system allows you to infinitely combo someone until they’re forced to get up. Throws can also combo, and do not prorate; meaning they do full damage, and reset combo damage. However, to balance this, a combo’ed throw usually has 25 frames to escape, which is very very simple if you’re awake.

So, simply, but allowing you to combo throws, you force the opponent to always be on their toes in the middle of combos.

:3 That was a bit much, but hopefully it made sense and is useful for you to understand the difference between games.

Good shit man. This was worth the entire thread.

[Predacon_Rampage]

Good shit man. This was worth the entire thread.

Yeah it was a good post, wish I could rep him for it.:tup:

[Rabbit2k7]

Yeah it was a good post, wish I could rep him for it.:tup:

I got your back. :tup:

[King9999]

I’m more interested in this game after reading IGN’s review. I’m gonna go pick it up.

[PROFESSORLESTER]

Some notes about GG and BB
As you now noticed, SF4 added EXFC witch is very nice so you can START COMBOS WITH SPECILAL MOVES, or simply cancel them if its gets blocked or something. GG games and BB have ALWAYS had this feature. TRIPPING into combos is also a staple as well. Combing OFF THROWS or into air throw set ups. MANY MORE low and over head specials. EVERY charactor is very uniqe. Hell in GG Biaken can SEAL. YOUR SPECIAL MOVES, JUMPS, LOWER YOUR DEFENSE OR ATTACK POWER FOR A TIME, and has unlimited alpha counters that can combo off of.
RANDOM SHIT on the screen to look for. Frogs, clouds, ghost, eyeballs, pets and mutiple teleports. Ever seen Faust, Dizzy, Zapp or Rachael played? V-13 with projectiles that start mid or full screen away. And the deepest sub- system you will ever see. COMBO BREAKERS, POWERED up modes. And way more.

[Hecatom]

This really is one of the big reasons I dislike GG/BB. Watching myself get flung around like a ragdoll for 20 seconds at a time grates on my nerves like nothing else. I’d rather get hit once and take 50% than watch it chip away slowly over the course of a 60 hit combo.

lol wat?

[Zanken]

Blazblue is just one big combo video.

You should see Fate.

[magical_voice_show]

And the exaggerations in this thread are actually not very far off. GG/BB are like the “Bullet Curtains” of fighting games. (Bullet curtain = shmups = shoot-em-ups).

last time i checked guilty gear wasn’t slow or easy

[System_1]

One of the best and clear explanations of the Guilty Gear system to a newbie. I rep you, sir.

And the exaggerations in this thread are actually not very far off. GG/BB are like the “Bullet Curtains” of fighting games. (Bullet curtain = shmups = shoot-em-ups).

Ok, I’ll let you know next time I get stuck in a 60 hit combo I can’t tech out of or get combo’d on for 20 seconds straight without the ability to tech…

Have the people who commented here even played this game…? Because from the responces it really seems like they haven’t done anything but watch youtube videos

[clue2025]

Better than Street Fighter 4

/thread

[NotGood]

Blazblue: Fun to watch on Youtube.

[Hurricane_Rev]

Blazblue is just one big combo video.

I guess you haven’t seen Hokuto No Ken yet.

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