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WateryHell · 2012-02-09T07:30:01.000Z

SILENCE!

insert 2 days of no talking here

Nitro263 · 2012-02-09T07:35:35.000Z

So you don’t respect ST as a competitive game either?

I said a big reason. Not the only reason. And I’m not referring to banning Meta Knight either, although that’s just one more example of how Smash was never intended to be taken seriously.

I don’t mind banning boss characters. If they’re purposely unbalanced boss characters, that makes perfect sense, so banning Akuma never bothered me. Banning a character is a far cry from a player base collectively tailoring how the game is to be played just to try and make it viable.

Wafflenaut · 2012-02-09T07:41:06.000Z

I don’t mind banning boss characters. If they’re purposely unbalanced boss characters, that makes perfect sense, so banning Akuma never bothered me. Banning a character is a far cry from a player base collectively tailoring how the game is to be played just to try and make it viable.

Well, there’s Uber tier, which includes all 649 pokemon. So if you wanted no-limits, then you got it. I think the tiers in Pokemon, and such limitations in other games, are not to make it more viable, (The UU team I run works quite well in Ubers too) but to make it more enjoyable and to encourage originality and skill. Like I said, you can choose 6 legendaries and spam hyber beam, but you better believe my UU team will knock you out every time.

Ravidrath · 2012-02-09T07:41:52.000Z

Grr, I’ll let PR know that it didn’t get in.

They told them it would be in today’s, and PR told me… so dunno what’s up.

Mr.X · 2012-02-09T07:44:08.000Z

Is Ravid gonna hafta send Cerebella to break dem kneez?

RemiKz · 2012-02-09T07:45:13.000Z

I get home after s**** traffic and no video

profound sadness

Wafflenaut · 2012-02-09T07:47:10.000Z

Ravid: I need you to… deal with someone for me, Cerebella.

Cut to Machinima Headquarters

Cerebella: Here. We. Go!

Uberdeluxe · 2012-02-09T07:49:43.000Z

IGDaily video is up!
http://www.youtube.com/user/machinima#p/u/0/GfX1aN3sbso

see this and open up video

Just watched IGDaily. No Skullgirls. WTF.

see this and close video without watching it

Hey, at least they showed us some strippers, so it wasn’t a total loss… :wonder:

see this and silently re-open video…

Genow · 2012-02-09T07:49:56.000Z

Someone make fanart of this or I’ll make it myself

Nitro263 · 2012-02-09T07:51:17.000Z

Well, there’s Uber tier, which includes all 649 pokemon. So if you wanted no-limits, then you got it.** I think the tiers in Pokemon, and such limitations in other games, are not to make it more viable, (The UU team I run works quite well in Ubers too) but to make it more enjoyable and to encourage originality and skill.**

This is basically the same thing as making it a more viable game competitively. And Uber tier is the same hugely imbalanced mess that I originally alluded to.

Like I said, you can choose 6 legendaries and spam hyber beam, but you better believe my UU team will knock you out every time.

Yeah, but that’s if I have zero strategy other than special sweeping. If you take your UU team up against an all Uber team that’s optimized for each Uber with synergy (Why does an Attack Forme Deoxys need Hyper Beam?) then you’ll damn near never win.

Kristoph · 2012-02-09T08:01:34.000Z

Well, there’s Uber tier, which includes all 649 pokemon. So if you wanted no-limits, then you got it. I think the tiers in Pokemon, and such limitations in other games, are not to make it more viable, (The UU team I run works quite well in Ubers too) but to make it more enjoyable and to encourage originality and skill. Like I said, you can choose 6 legendaries and spam hyber beam, but you better believe my UU team will knock you out every time.

lol, don’t confuse them

tiers in pokemon are what fighting gamers would just call “banlists” or something, ha.

speaking of UU, the sheer fact that mew is UU (or BL or whatever) is totally terrifying to me, for the record. I hardly pay attention these days, but every so often I hear shit like “yeah blaziken is uber” and I have a mini-meltdown. I might have to get back into it one day though.

anyway, skullgirls. it’s like pokemon, but with skullgirls.

Arazeml · 2012-02-09T08:03:06.000Z

This is basically the same thing as making it a more viable game competitively. And Uber tier is the same hugely imbalanced mess that I originally alluded to.

Yeah, but that’s if I have zero strategy other than special sweeping. If you take your UU team up against an all Uber team that’s optimized for each Uber with synergy (Why does an Attack Forme Deoxys need Hyper Beam?) then you’ll damn near never win.

Suddenly I want to use a Ninjask > Shuckle combo.

Also, Skullgirls. Wonder why it didn’t make that vid, 2-3 min of SKYRIM was much too much OTL

Wafflenaut · 2012-02-09T08:06:40.000Z

This is basically the same thing as making it a more viable game competitively.

So what would be your stance on patches? Is that all right just because it’s Capcom or Aksys or whomever making the changes? You’re being awfully vague on what a limitation is and how they effect the “viability” of a game.

Suddenly I want to use a Ninjask > Shuckle combo.

Zoroark>Shedinja, my greatist creation. Works every time.

Ben_Perkins · 2012-02-09T08:17:50.000Z

anyway, skullgirls. it’s like pokemon, but with skullgirls.

You win the 2012 Explaining Awards

Jet_Set_Dizzy · 2012-02-09T08:20:51.000Z

I’m sure there is a Pokemon thread somewhere on SRK. Kindly relocate yourselves there.

Vulpes · 2012-02-09T08:26:10.000Z

This is basically the same thing as making it a more viable game competitively. And Uber tier is the same hugely imbalanced mess that I originally alluded to.

Did you ever take a look at like, MvC2? Or 3S? Or any FG where half the cast has 2-8 matchups against half the cast?
In Pokémon, they’re just being niceguys and allowing you to play in a tourney setting without the God Tiers, so you can actually play the Pokémon you want to play.
For people that really enjoy 3S but don’t want to play Chun/Yun/Ken, introducing a “No Top Tier” Tournament where you can’t pick any of those three would’ve been pretty cool.

I don’t mind banning boss characters. If they’re purposely unbalanced boss characters, that makes perfect sense, so banning Akuma never bothered me.

Pretty much all of the Ubers are/were “boss characters” (Yes, not exactly, but for the most part). It’s just that in a game with a 400-650 “character roster”, there’s a tiny bit more “bosses” than in a game with 15 characters.

Yes, Pokémon isn’t designed around being anywhere close to a competitive game whatsoever.
I can’t throw much but respect at the people that manage to turn it into one, regardless of their methods.

Actually, I’m fairly sure MvC3 would’ve been enjoyed more by the competitive community if Tournaments had banned the use of X-Factor and Phoenix.

GuildWars also would’ve become a better game if the community selforganized banning rules and took the “balancing” into their own hands rather than letting ArenaNet screw up the game one Addon/Patch at a time.

If the producers can’t/don’t want to fix their game, the players have to. I don’t see where this detracts from the then actually played game though.
Imagine chess was a video game, and it would be the exact same, except on the initial move, white could move 5 times rather than 1.
At some point, a certain tech is discovered: 1.e4 2.Bc4 3.Qf3 4.Qf7:#, white ends up winning every single time.
Now some guy comes along and states “This game is all cool and shit, but the developer obviously didn’t think this through.
Okay, we’ll self-impose the following rule:The first 4 moves that white does have to be: 1.Nf3, 2.Ng1, 3.Nf3, 4.Ng1.
Then the fifth white can choose, and after that we play this as usual”. Would this make chess a laughable game that can’t be taken serious competitively?

What a developer thinks what a game should be, and what the community makes out of it are two entirely different things.
A game that was never intended to be competitive can still become the most competitive game there is.
What the community ends up making out of it is far more important than what it could/“should” be.

Genow · 2012-02-09T08:26:54.000Z

If there were enough chars in skullgirls I’d totally make a fire red hack with only skullgirls characters

Dr.Grammar · 2012-02-09T08:42:51.000Z

Whoah son. YOU just lost all cred. 1. Ferrothorn doesn’t get Rapid Spin. 2. One of Crustle’s abilities is Sturdy, which means that he cannot be killed in one hit. Pair this with a Lum berry and you basically get a free Shell Smash (Look it up, cause you’ve obviously never played 5th gen) and from there you have STAB X-Scissor, STAB Stone Edge and a gdlk Earthquake. That amounts to perfect neutral coverage and anything slower than max speed 110 without a scarf is getting swept. No Crustle worth its salt is trying to set up Stealth Rock or Spikes, leave that pussy shit to Forretress.
Next time you think you’re ready to decide who does and does not have Pokemon cred, you come to me, then I’LL tell you what’s ok and not ok. I told you son, I’m frighteningly good at Pokemon. Shit’s like chess with 649 different pieces.

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp156/WaffleLeech/FUCKYEACRUSTLE.png

Swag.

Don’t say Pokemon is like chess. I wouldn’t have quit that game when I did if that were really the case.

Wafflenaut · 2012-02-09T08:45:23.000Z

I’m sure there is a Pokemon thread somewhere on SRK. Kindly relocate yourselves there.

There isn’t, I’ve looked.

jaiwhite205 · 2012-02-09T08:47:20.000Z

I think everyone had a pretty shitty day.
here’s something to cheer you all up.

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