Surfer Wins hands down. Surfer does not need to eat, sleep, or breathe air and his powers from from an unlimited source (the Power Cosmic).
Silver Surfer doesn’t even need to try with Vegeta. Were talking someone who throws down with god on a slow Tuesday.
Vegeta can have all the power and transformations he want, the Surfer can manipulate energy and just suck the Ki out of Vegeta until he is a husk.
In a contest of who’s limits hit first, the only one who has limits to give gets wrecked in the end.
LOL. Are we talking about Cooler.
That is low on the Silver Surfer’s scale.
Silver Surfer commands more energy at a instant that what would take Goku a half season to summon up for a spirit bomb (now with his what ever form).
Were talking someone with ridcocklous amounts of speed, impossible definition breaking amounts of speed, Skin that never got broken (so he can’t bleed), someone who took planet destroying blasts and super novas like a warm summers breeze, and even the Heroes at Marvel need’s some form of plot device to even deal with him.
Vegeta’s Power set: Ki Manipulation from martial arts expertise and a genetic memory for combat.
Limits, Ki is based on one own finite life force energy, Goku can sorta by pass this with asking permission to borrow more Ki from others.
Limited super speed
Limited super strength
Silver Surfer’s Power Set:
The Power Cosmic: The whole entirety of the Universe is his power source.
Energy Absorption and Manipulation: Power levels means shit to the Surfer.
Matter Manipulation (Silver Surfer can turn Vegetta into chocolate pudding for Beerus or Boo)
Superhuman Strength, Yeah Vegeta has this too, but the Surfer can also use the Power Cosmic to increase his strength to incalculable levels.
Invulnerability. Surfer can’t be hurt. He survived entering and exiting a black hole like most people survived exit or enter a normal building. Note the Surfer travels buck naked though space like it’s nothing to him.
Godlike Stamina: The Surfer isn’t able to get tired.
Flight Speed: Prior to his upgrade, the Silver Surfer was one of the fastest beings in the universe. Thats prior.
Cosmic Senses: He can literately see things from lightyears away
Cosmic Self-Sustenance: The Silver Surfer does not need to eat or breathe since he absorbs life-maintaining cosmic energy directly through his skin.
Even if (keyword IF) the Surfer can’t over power Vegeta, he can wait till Vegeta tires out. And unlike some heroes, its not below the Silver Surfer just to grab Vetega by the neck, take him out into space and let him asphyxiate.
SJWs just hate white men. Not to mention if this was about black men, or muslim men, you know they would get a lot of hate for being racist. https://youtu.be/P06jvJdlDP0
The key words are “on average”. Is this true or not? Are men and women, on average, what this statement claims? And if these studies are outdated, where’s the latest ones? And then, do they give similar results? Next question, what role does biology play in it? That’s the crux of the argument; does biology lead to innate differences in men and women that lead to a difference in interest, and therefore a difference in representation? Seems that a number of people who know about this stuff, including women, think this is accurate in some way.
Helping? Or doing the exact opposite of what it should by favoring certain groups over others for the sake of “diversity”? If that’s what’s happening, if Google is showing that kind of favoritism towads certain groups in their hiring and treatment, then I think there’s a legit complaint to be made. Whether any of the solutions would work or are feasible, separate discussion.
Remember when I said this thread was for you? Here’s the proof. Looking to the past to try and refute the present is typical regressive tactic. That somehow the way whites treated people many years ago somehow invalidates any of the claims made relevant to this present situation is why this thread is for you.
Racism is racism, and diversity for diversity’s sake can very much apply. Let’s say your boss told you that they don’t have enough black people at the job, and you need to hire one. You would hire one that’s very well qualified, sure. But the fact that their ethnicity is either the deciding factor or the outright basis for the hiring means you intentionally denied the opportunity to not just a white person, but an asian, latino, native american, indian, etc. You’re discriminating against many more groups than you’re discriminating in favor of, you just get to do it legally as “diversity”. But hey whites did it decades ago so gotta make up for it now.
Whether you think work should remain apolitical is a separate issue. Doesn’t change whether what he said is true or not. If a company does not want politics in their environment, that’s their decision, and so be it if someone gets fired because they broke that rule. If there was some rule here that said he couldn’t do that, then so be it if he was fired for breaking it. But I have not heard that there was such a rule, and that he was fired for “promoting gender stereotypes”. But again, if there’s statistics and science that give credence to the claim, then is that really what he did? I’ve heard some say he’s got a case to sue for false termination.
I think that, just like many others I’ve seen, you’ve taken it and concluded it means what you want to think it means based on an assumption of intent. He might actually think this way (though again, I don’t see anything to suggest this, and his numerous reiterations that he does not convince me less that this is the case), so if there’s evidence for it, and it being due to biological shit or whatever, then that’s what should matter more.
That’s your business. You do you.
All this being said, Silver Surfer would wreck Vegeta. Jubilee would wreck Vegeta.
Nah Vegeta will develop some bs transformation or do something dumb like fuse with the carnage symbiote and kick surfers ass because as strong as surfer is(dude can just chill in black holes AND time travel) he will job like the jobber he is. Now that I think about it he has to lose to Vegeta, he can’t win against a family man.
Maybe if it was Vegeta back before planet vegeta was destroyed he would win because Galactus has to feed and the plot demands it but not lame ass get-arm-bared Surfer.
Howard the Duck can beat Vegeta with a Beretta 9mm.
Professor X don’t need is mutant powers to beat Vegeta, and he is in a wheel chair.
Elderly Aunt May can beat Vegeta
Only Marvel character Vegeta could have a shot at is a unarmed, pre-super soldier serum Steve Rodgers, and Steve has a cold that day.
its pretty hilarious how much they complain, yet they never do anything. They think america is so bad, and everyone is treated unfairly, yet they have never been to other countries where people are treated like dirt. Just try living in North korea, Iraq, Iran, Africa, or Serbia. These people have never even been to a 3rd world country also, or ever seen people who still live in tribes to this day, and hunt with spears. People in America are just spoiled rotten and complain about the dumbest things, like boo hoo, I have a job, a place where I can sleep, and take a shower. Yet I do nothing to help anyone, and complain that I lost my MP3 player, or complain about theres no good video games out.
Yeah pretty much. Talk shit get hit used to be the way of life. Now everyone talks shit and it goes unchecked. Not good. Granted I dont have these issues as much, but I see people get away with shit that would never fly 20 years ago. Men used to be able to handle their own shit, now everyone is a big baby with emotional and physical weaknesses. I dont see how this is acceptable. Reality requires strength. I mean it seems like you’re trying to turn this into “argument? fuck that just fight” but thats not what im talking about. Some people do fucked up shit and there needs to be action taken, and legal ways arent always practical.
It depends. I dont think people should go around looking for fights. I also dont think every little thing requires violence. But when theres some guy constantly starting trouble, you gotta do what you gotta do. It sends a message to him and everyone else that would try it. A good example of this was a female friend who was basically getting grabbed on by one of her ex boyfriends while we were all in HS (post-columbine - if anyone remembers the stupid zero tolerance shit). I decided to defend my friend, but she didnt want to take any serious action on him bc she didnt want him to get in trouble (even though she would literally cry about it every night but didnt want him to get kicked out of school or put away). Due to how emotions are so easily manipulated these days, he always avoided being in a private situation with me, and was able to continue. Now imagine if schools had the “boys will be boys” mentality when I was there. Shit would have stopped. Absolutely. Inb4 you say she obviously wanted it like a sexist. When you act like violence is always bad, all you do is send a message to manipulative people that they can get away with anything they want. This girl also had other problems where I said “fuck it I dont care, I’m reporting this even if she doesnt” and she protected people every time. She didnt want to see anyone get in deep shit.
Then dont do anything so obvious as to warrant the use of violence. Im not talking about putting people in hospitals or anything, but a bloody nose or a few bruises sends a message and everyone can go on with life as normal. Im in my 30s as well, and I havent been in a fight in a very very long time. But I mostly hang out with people who are chill, and I dont really interact with people I dont respect much. But when that one guy shows up, you gotta do what you gotta do. Manipulative behavior needs to be straightened out, and when theres a zero tolerance policy towards the use of force, then thats just a handicap.
You dont need to be an asshole to upset anyone anymore. All you need to do is say something like “only women get pregnant.”
EEERRMMMAGAWDDIJSDGIJSDG QUIT BEING SO CISNORMATIVE. Fuck that. Sex is real. Gender is a social construct but all but two are absolutely retarded and are just about getting attention.
If you’re too god damn emotionally weak to handle reality then get therapy and come back into society when you’re ready.
The reason “toxic” masculinity is a good thing is that it lets other guys know that they arent good enough. A big part of being a man is overcoming personal obstacles, including oneself which leads to personal growth. You cant just go through life expecting paradise. No matter what, there will always be ups and downs. Being strong is better than being weak. Weakness should not be encouraged, especially emotional weakness. I can respect physically weak men who try anyway. That shit is awesome. But if you piss and moan and try to make the world tippy toe around you, you can go fuck yourself.
Explain what I said thats wrong. If you think the use of force is always unjustified, then you’re a fucking retard and there’s no two ways about it. There are really shitty people out there who do fucked up things.