SHIN-SHO DOJO (Gouken Sparring Lab)

I’ll be online after 4pm MT, 6 eastern if someone wanna spare!!!

I hope gouken will be tourney playable in ultra

Martineeeeeez my man, sorry bro it took me so long to get back…hectic Monday.

Ok, One thing I noticed you do is you focus whenever I jump in. Thats a big no no. It may work sometime but you really really need to work on AA’ing. And I cant even say “work on AA” because obviously you recognize there is a jump in and you focus, so your reactions are there and you’ve trained yourself to react to them. You need to work on switching your AA from focusing to actually hitting your opponent out of the air. Its free damage and you should ALWAYS AA. Every single time a person jumps in, unless its too tight, hit their ass out the sky with the appropriate button or special move. Cl.st.hk for above your head, cr.hp/cr.mk for close jumps ins, f.st.hp/cr.hp/ex tatsu for further jump ins and ex tatsu/f.st.mk for further than that jump ins. I rarely use kongo for AA unless I want to fadc, ex tatsu to end the round or cancel into super for dat damage because it has a weakness in being thrown. Ive ran into some brave brave folks that know Goukens wake is weak, know that tatsu is risky so will just empty jump (not even on wake…just empty jump in) and throw. You see someone jump at you cr.hp/f.st.hp or ex tatsu their ass…every…single…time, no exceptions.

Another weakness I see is that you dont use all of Goukens buttons. We dont have options but all of our buttons are godlike and have a purpose. Use them! Poke, poke poke. We cant really buffer too too much like Cammy for instance can buffer cr.mk into Cannon Drill. We have cr.lk into hk tatsu which is only good in the Rog and Dudley mu. Cr.mp into hado isnt a block string by far so its unusable. Gouken HAS to poke. Its almost a must. We have the GODLIKE f.st.hp which beats everything but Cammys, Ryus, Codys, and Kens dj.hk and only trades with Oni’s f.st.hp and Adons f.st.hk. It destroys every other move in the game…seriously. We have the godlike f.st.mk which is awesome after a throw break and keeps you safe and out of reach from people, plus its fast. We have f.st.hk which is a great distance frame trap weapon…cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lp, cr.lk, f.st.hk, safe at tip and will net you some juicy damage for block stringing out if they get hit. Cr.mp is great in its own right, just fish with it low, dont buffer anything. Same with cr.lk. Its really fast and a good tool at poking low and whiff punishing other lows from your opponent. Use his tools. Go into training, take some time and just practice poking so you learn the distances for each. A huge thing you need to know also – when poking and playing footsies, be alert of jump ins. Dont poke and look at yourself. Dont poke and worry about whats hitting or not. Poke and watch your opponent. Our pokes retract very quickly so we can AA no problem to a jump in, even if the poke was done after the opponent jumps. Be a brick, poking wall lol. No one comes in whether its by ground or air. Cl.st.hk?? I would never be able to flip on you. Use that button. Learn it and learn it well. Its only 40 damage but it hits people and lets them know that you control that air space above your head and dont lean on kongo.

Another thing you need to work on, and you touched on it a bit up there is…you need to be more creative. And when I say creative Im saying that you need to switch your attacks up. You had a hard time defending because every single time I attacked you I did something different. High, low, throw, overhead, gf, os, frame trap, bait, kongo, nothing…you dont know whats coming. Then thats just the initial attack. All I have to do is jab you (you block) now what? Same scenario as the initial, high, low, throw, overhead,gf, os, frame trap, bait, kongo, nothing. Thats what makes offense so powerful, when you dont know whats coming. And we have it better than the whole cast because we actually have a defensive move that can hit you as well. Mix things up, learn OS’s to cover backdashing and limit your opponents options on wakeup. Gouken is soooo powerful putting people in 50/50 situations. You guess wrong and its half your health. I cant say that any other character has that other than Makoto.

Recognize Goukens strengths and tune your offense to what he does well. Recognize his weaknesses and tune your defense to what he’s horrible at. Do more blocking and teching than trying to get out of situations because you’re scared. Take a few weeks and dont ex flip, back dash or ex tatsu once. Just bock and tech. Learn your opponents strings and that’ll teach you when you SHOULD back dash or reversal.

You’re very solid, getting better day by day, you just have to tune which is nothing. We’ll keep training and take it day by day. I really hope USF4 gets an online training mode for times like this. Sometimes its hard recommending someone to “do this”. I know I learn visually and Im sure that most of us in here are like that as well.

Ill be on tonight :slight_smile: although on pad, so ill have tunnelvision.

Ive been trying dif button configs

Lobby up with Martinez.

Eightarc says by the 31st ill have my replacement stick…pad warrior til then

Anybody gonna be on xbl tonight? Finished grinding back my PP(gigidy) on psn. Now I gotta get back to 3k on xbl. If you guys see me on I’ll join

I’ll hit you

Yeah. Cool. I don’t want to get too used to psn’s frame difference.

Ughh, had a long session today and it was so friggin laggy. Nothing was working correctly. I just decided to work on anti-airs and trapping, win or lose.

I have been getting lost connection to host without a PSN error like crazy over the last few days.

Will be on both systems tonight. Got some things to test.

Ggs sky…in spite of connection

No one wanted to join us…i invited numrous heads too…

We need an all gouken team

Lol yeah it was getting late. I was tired myself cuz I had just run a long set with Sun. Thats like an hour and a half of intense brain activity, having to stay on my toes so I dont get raw ex palmed into Denjin hahaha.

Gg’s as well sir

Lol man shit got so intense my legs straightened out a few times. And when im focused on my fadc combos my toes curl. I think I get into this game a little too much. So many close matches, I could never seal the deal though lol. The pressure breaks me! :confused:

Anyone use optimum online internet service?

Fun games earlier dude…gnarly…

Ggs man. I feel like you’ve had way better days in previous sessions. What’s going on?

Stick has returned…readjusting…my kid was using me as a jungle jim for the first couple fights…

Plus i suck…lolfor now

Do any of you play on pc?