Sharpening my claws.. Vega(Claw) Wants/Needs

Its funny how you said all of that used to piss people off in ST because from my experience people still get pissed off at vega in his current build. Online and at tournaments. Whenever I land the Izuna vortex successfully people get pissed off and send me a message and call me a noob and i have no skill. whenever i poke poke run people get mad. wheneve i continuosly get jumped on wake up people get mad. My point is that people still get mad at people that play vega for some strange reason so nerfing what made vega playable without the many headaches did not solve that problem in the least. It just baffles me that I get told that i have no skill for landing the Izuna vortex successfully, people just dont realize how little that window is to land that drop and how open you are if you miss. Not trying to be rude to you sasaki just ellaborating on my experiences with him.

Another note I dont understand the people that get mad about giving him I. frames on ST. That could only help him because i get tired of fighting in a match where i have played everything perfectly and mess one thing up and half or 3 quarters of my life is gone after i get knocked down. That gives me a headache that i have nothing that can make a character respect vega on wake up. so a good reversal move would make characters have to respect you on wakeup so you can reset rather then have all your life taken in an instant.

I usually never got much hatemail after beating people, until yesterday. I beat a G1-A Cammy in the championship and after the match he just called me a pussy and said all I did was run away. I also faced a G1-C Honda and kept my distance most of the match and countered when I could. He called me a pussy and said I had no skills and didn’t even do combos. Since when in SF4 can Vega be aggressive against these characters? Thats a death sentance, especially against Cammy. Also, what combos can Vega do besides j.hp,c.mp,EX-walldive? Sure against bigger characters he can add in a s.HP, but besides that, thats about it.

Onto his focus attack, it sucks. Needs to have speed on-par with fei long’s

Reasons to use FADC: None. Decrease jab frames to 3 and slightly increase forward dash speed and it might have some use.

Well damn i am glad you didnt get alot of hatemail before because that crap is annoying. I just dont understand how you can get mad at vega. He is the freakin lowest tier character in the game and does no damage and gets killed in a heartbeat. Just today i got a freakin sagat who was mad and said that i was lucky he missed his uppercuts or i wouldnt have won. I was completely dumb founded because whiffing moves on purpose is supposed to make you whiff moves so i can create openings. I swear these people get so mad for no reason. I have so much hatemail that it isnt funny. I didnt realize playing a low tier player well can make people so mad. hahaha

I agree, top tier characters have no room to trash talk Vega. Maybe if they actually used him they would understand how to play him in this game without getting yourself killed. Though I do understand how they would be upset after losing to one of the worst characters in the game.

Also I was curious what Vega’s ultra 2 command is? I’ve heard alot of people say its a charge ultra. I was kinda hoping it was qcf,qcf KKK. Would be amazing for punishing whiffed moves.

to pretend to give vega players something like an OH, but in reality it’s not lol.

It’s charge back, forward, back forward + KKK, to the best of my knowledge.

My favorite is angry Zangiefs that tell you to stop running. Basically saying “wtf, let me win here.”

WTF All you do is play well. Cut that shit out and stop blocking ffs. You didn’t even do any random ultras. Where you yomi at.

Did we find out if throwing claw and mask was removed from Claw’s move list in the Vegas build? God knows why they even made those moves.

I personally thought the claw and mask taunts were a cool addition. They show off how cocky Vega is and its probably the most irritating taunt to get dealt.

The whole “I don’t even need this” aspect to the claw removal is just badass IMO.

Is it really useful in a match? No.
Is there any real reason why it costs me 2 bars to remove mask? No.

I say keep it in just for playfulness’ sake. I do think the command needs to change though. Removing the claw happens on accident sometimes.

I understand what you mean for playfulness sake but i am trying to play in tournaments and there is no way that you should have to give up 2 ex bars for mask removal

Everybody i believe Vega have very big success rate of having qcf,qcf KKK as his 2nd Ultra cuz in the Ultra vids on http://www.eventhubs.com/ at directly 1:19 you see Chun 2nd Ultra is a qcf,qcf motion so… she’s a charge Character and Vega is too so that’s gives him a big chance of having qcf,qcf motion as his 2nd Ultra :lovin:

Both Chunli and Dictator have Quarter-Circle X2 ultras, if I remember correctly, but in the video were Claw does the ultra against Cody, he seems to be charging… unfortunately.

Also Guiles is a charge character and his second ultra is still a charge.

Damn it, how are charge characters ever going to take advantage of FADC’iing the way motion characters can?

Give charge characters an alternate motion input for ultra after a FADC!!

By being BAD ASS at precharging, apparently.

most likely the input for ultra 2 will be :l::r::l::r::3k:

At least it will be somewhat easier to land after a focus attack. Also, punishing Boxer’s rushing punches with ultra should be alot easier now since you don’t have to reach the wall first.

Delicious. I can’t wait to dash into ultra and get a not-really-deserved cheer from the crowd. :lol:

charge versus motion ultra isnt a huge deal, your not gonna be throwing it out outside of combos anyway ( even though the initial hit looks like it would be a good interupting tool)