SFV Character Request/Anticipation Thread

Kyle_Hyde · 2016-10-08T13:35:48.000Z

Most hated characters

Juri
All the dolls
Cammy
the twins

thats it really

All I want in this game is Necro. I’d actually legit play it if they put him in

Cestus · 2016-10-08T16:56:59.000Z

Raccon:

Concerning about v-reversal, I’m fine with any kind of animation that includes throwing tarot cards out.

https://s31.postimg.org/4g67uc77r/image.gif

So, what are your thoughts about all this?

I like the idea of throwing tarot cards, but i don’t see it work as V-reversal as usually it’s a close range situation

A possibility can be V-Trigger as Vega’s rose launch, she throw the tarot and if hit it paralyze the enemy in blue flames (she give a similar status in USF4 Omega) for a second

But i will like V-trigger to be orbs, so maybe V-skill? It will also make it happen more often

BTW 3 must happen things

-This Stage

-this Face

-this Alt

Cipher · 2016-10-08T17:00:09.000Z

Fragment:

Daemos:

But Decapre looks derivative because -get this- she is A CLONE. Literally.

Who likes a fucking clone?

Eventhubs, Shotos lead every poll.

Terios · 2016-10-08T17:15:12.000Z

Her vskill will just be an invincible backdash.

gigglz · 2016-10-08T17:31:34.000Z

DarthEnder:

You aren’t going to get them because they don’t even want you to have the info you do now.

There’s a reason SF characters only have Birth days and months now, not years.

The games don’t take place during specific years anymore either.

That wasnt meant in a “we need more information about the characters”-way but in a “holy shit, we’re ACTUALLY discussion the age of fictional characters now, we’re obviously craving for something to talk about right now”-way

Fragment · 2016-10-08T19:47:28.000Z

Daemos:

Fragment:

Daemos:

But Decapre looks derivative because -get this- she is A CLONE. Literally.

Who likes a fucking clone?

Considering how many people voted for Ken and Akuma, i’d say a fucking lot of people.

Yeah, but they’re not actual clones…

ruthless_nash · 2016-10-08T20:01:17.000Z

if they ever do put Rose in this game, they should change her Idle stance. It looks ok in 2D but absolutely ghastly in 3D. Doesnt suit her “aura” if that makes sense.

Daemos · 2016-10-08T20:14:41.000Z

ruthless_nash:

if they ever do put Rose in this game, they should change her Idle stance. It looks ok in 2D but absolutely ghastly in 3D. Doesnt suit her “aura” if that makes sense.

I wouldn’t mind her going full-on telekinesis and just be floating around during her idle and walk animations.

Darc_Requiem · 2016-10-08T20:17:10.000Z

Terios:

Her vskill will just be an invincible backdash.

Raccon · 2016-10-08T22:00:51.000Z

Daemos:

Things I’d like Rose to be able to do in SF5:

Kenshi style soul illusions from MKX (possessed variation). In fact, I’d like see this concept become central to her style as it has never been done before in SF and it fits the bill thematically speaking. If you don’t know what I am talking about check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8aW-nBGO4

I’d like her to be able to shoot her projectiles or hold on to them (by not letting go of the P input) as charges of soul satellite that swirl around her. Up to 2 at time. These soul satellites would work similarly to her ultra in SF4.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/4/40/Rose-soulspark.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100709180811

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/c/cc/Rose-entrancetauntloop.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100328050055

V-skill is obviously soul reflect but it doubles as a close range command normal. You can choose which angle to deflect even.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/sf-rose.gif

Her VT is her Soul Illusion super.

Her CA is a command grab

Shamwow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM3GlGz0pmw

Or a CA variation of her Alpha ground throw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e7v46FX4OQ

00:40.

Gawd, she’s perfect.

Hmm… I confess don’t wanna see her soul reflect as v-skill, and here the why: first, it’s a sort of laziness decision, since the thing I hate the most in Cammy is her v-skill (an old moveset of hers). It means that Capcom missing an outstanding opportunity to step forward and built a new move is an unforgivable choise. Plus, soul reflect is a very specific move, mainly useful to deal with fireballs. If it becomes her v-skill, surely it will be limited like Bison’s one.

At last, the Kenshi style that you mentioned fits her, I’m fine with it.

Daemos · 2016-10-08T23:24:59.000Z

The Soul Reflect V-skill will be different than Bison’s because it doubles as a command normal and has different properties.

It could go something like this:

MK+MP =

Reflects projectile horizontally fast + Is a command normal

B+MK+MP =

Reflects projectile horizontally slow + is an overhead command normal

D+MK+MK =

Reflects projectile diagonally fast + is better as an anti-air command normal than the previous 2 variations

Found the sprite for this (fightersgeneration are awesome!). This would be her CA again:

It’s such a badass grab. It must be revived!

I also rethought my position on her Soul Satellite.

Her standard projectile would be Soul Spark.

Ex Soul Spark however, would generate a Soul Satellite. Up to 3. This would be a nice parallel to having her VT as Soul Illusion. If you use up both gauges this way, you would have soul illusions and 3 soul satellites dealing consecutive damage. It would be AMAZING.

Hawkingbird · 2016-10-08T23:50:38.000Z

I’m not a fan of using a character’s existing move as a V-skill. That is lazy.

Daemos · 2016-10-08T23:55:22.000Z

Hawkingbird:

I’m not a fan of using a character’s existing move as a V-skill. That is lazy.

Not if the existing character gets a totally new and inspired move to replace it.

Hawkingbird · 2016-10-09T00:16:16.000Z

Daemos:

Hawkingbird:

I’m not a fan of using a character’s existing move as a V-skill. That is lazy.

Not if the existing character gets a totally new and inspired move to replace it.

New and inspired move should be the v-skill. That’s what it exists for.

Quark · 2016-10-09T00:41:10.000Z

Apart from V-skill being a different button input I don’t see why it matters that much if an old move comes back as a V-skill as opposed to a special. I guess you miss out on EX versions of that move, which could either be a big deal or irrelevant depending on the move.

EX v-skills would be pretty dope though, now that I think of it.

Daemos · 2016-10-09T00:57:15.000Z

Hawkingbird:

Daemos:

Hawkingbird:

I’m not a fan of using a character’s existing move as a V-skill. That is lazy.

Not if the existing character gets a totally new and inspired move to replace it.

New and inspired move should be the v-skill. That’s what it exists for.

What difference does it make? You’re getting a new move either way.

The purpose of the V-skill is to be an anti-zoning command normal. If the character already has an anti-zoning special in their repertoire I don’t see a reason why it can’t be recycled and repurposed. Like in the case of Bison, I would have happily embraced a Psycho Banish V-skill command normal over his very situational Psycho Absorb.

Hawkingbird · 2016-10-09T01:05:23.000Z

Daemos:

Hawkingbird:

Daemos:

Hawkingbird:

I’m not a fan of using a character’s existing move as a V-skill. That is lazy.

Not if the existing character gets a totally new and inspired move to replace it.

New and inspired move should be the v-skill. That’s what it exists for.

What difference does it make? You’re getting a new move either way.

The purpose of the V-skill is to be an anti-zoning command normal. If the character already has an anti-zoning special in their repertoire I don’t see a reason why it can’t be recycled and repurposed. Like in the case of Bison, I would have happily embraced a Psycho Banish V-skill command normal over his very situational Psycho Absorb.

V-skills ain’t for anti-zoning. It’s suppose to be the thing that give characters their own mechanics. Ryu with the parry, Chun with an unique jump, Birdie being able to lay traps, etc. I think Capcom fucked up by making them special moves for some characters.

Daemos · 2016-10-09T01:11:15.000Z

The impression I get is that V-skills are like FA and parries in that they give characters unique ways to deal with projectiles. This is the common thread between all of in SF5.

Hawkingbird · 2016-10-09T01:31:24.000Z

I don’t see that way as Mika, Alex and Dhalsim V-skill don’t do shit to stop zoning.

Quark · 2016-10-09T01:48:22.000Z

Hawkingbird:

I don’t see that way as Mika, Alex and Dhalsim V-skill don’t do shit to stop zoning.

Dhalsim’s does (lets him hover above fireballs).

But I agree that V-skills should do more than just counter projectiles. That’s much too specific of a function for something that is supposed to be a core part of each character’s kit. Actually I think the problem with a lot of the current v-skills is that they are reactionary, meaning you can’t rely on them to build V-meter unless your opponent happens to do whatever your V-skill counters. We need more general purpose V-skills like Karin’s, Ibuki’s, Necalli’s, Dhalsim’s, Guile’s, etc. that you can effectively incorporate into your neutral game. Stuff like Vega’s, Bison’s, etc. just feel way too bland and situational. I’m also not a fan of the ones that power up your next move, personally (Alex/Mika/Urien). At least not when they’re so slow.