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Man, seeing that concept really makes me want to have Azam in the game as well. I wonder if Capcom had already decided on his inclusion next year? Would fill the quota of a new character and possibly add a whole new fighting style into the game

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Lots of good, logical ideas and theories, just5moreminutes.
I would agree with you that at this point Sakura and Oro are the two guaranteed characters to make the cut in season 2. I somehow think that both Sodom and Q have a pretty good shot at this point too.
I also think that either Sagat or Adon will be added, with my money on Adon over Sagat. Also, of all the SF1 characters, I think Eagle has the greatest chance right now. Of course, Azam seems possible too, but not sure yet.

Anyway, here’re my guesses for season 2:
Sakura
Oro
Sodom
Q
Adon
Eagle

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All this art could mean something, but also new Delta Red Art.
My Season 2 Wishlist got modifed once more
Rose
Decapre
Juni(as grappler,come on Capcom!)
Azam
Rolento
Lita Luwanda(Cause I always wanted to hunt Ryu and Ken with a huge breadknife trough the stage)

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Everybody is assuming that season 2 will have six characters like season 1, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s even more. 8 characters doesn’t sound so off, look at KI. I bet all 6 of season 1 were already finished or nearly finished when SFV was released, they are just messing with balance stuff. Capcom have plenty time to work on new designs, probably already started.

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Yeah I think it’ll be more than 6 too. This year there were no January and February releases cause the game wasnt out yet.

13626

A capoeira rep cooler and flashier than Elena with a personality beyond “I love everything!” would be cool.

13627

Good point about there possibly being more than 6 characters for season 2.

I’ve heard that it generally takes about 2-3 months of work for an artist to complete a character model of the complexity we’re dealing with, and then another 2-3 months to add all the animations. You take all that into account and the fact that they have to first plan out the character and at the end actually be testing the character and trying to balance it, etc., and I think it’s fair to say that all of the season 1 DLC characters were probably mostly modeled out by the release of the game in February.

By that rationale as well, I imagine that work on all the season 2 characters will begin by mid-summer this year, which means they need to have decided which characters to use by then, thus all the stuff we’re seeing now.

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ROSE
SAKURA
Q
SEAN
AKUMA
DOLLS (two characters like Mika/Nade)

Waifu wildcard: REMY/INGRID

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Well imo 6 characters per season is a lot of work for capcom, I dont think it will be more than that, also they will keep adding more content to the game. Im really pleased with 6 character per year.

My guess for season 2:
Viper
Oro
Sakura
Ed
Doll
Sean

13630

I’d really like to see Azam playable in the future.

http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column/azam00.jpg

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Imagine a S2 like that

Random considerations

-will add a lot of variety to the cast
-i wanted desperately add Tom, but his SFV artwork is too fucking terrible
-Keith Wolfman is said in the bio very skilled with tonfa, i take that over Maki any day, specially considering Ibuki already in
-i know the waifu crowd will hate that but who cares
-i wanted to add Joe as well, as SFV still need KB rep, but his redesign is too gay lol
-chars that almost made it: Tom, Abel, Nadeshiko, Joe

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Why? Maki gives Ibuki something to work with as a potential rival where as right now she seems to have basically no reason to be in the game that I can think of. In addition, Maki and Ibuki have very different personalities and nothing alike in play styles AT ALL. Lastly, you included a Final Fight villain without any FF heroes.

I mean I’m all for Keith as a new character and a Delta Red that doesn’t have butt floss, but your reasoning just seems kind of weak to me when it’s merely “we already have Ibuki” aka “We already have a female ninja” which is like “Why include Azam? We already have Zangief and Alex for big body wrestler types.”

I’m sure you can come up with a better reason to pick Keith over Maki than “Ibuki is in.” That’s all I’m trying to say.

Also, don’t forget, you’re likely to see AT LEAST half of those characters get a MASSIVE overhaul. Sodom wasn’t a terribly popular character, neither was Eagle, so they’ll take chances with them. Maki is a popular-ish character but they’d likely overhaul her moveset similar to what they did for Mika with a few iconic moves kept and/or tweaked but then the rest new. Goutetsu, Azam, and Keith would be completely new. Retsu had a total of 6 moves, that is including standing, crouching, and jumping normals, lee has 8. Neither had any specials nor did SF1 have supers. Remember, JUST normals w/o any command normals, characters in SFV have a minimum of 18. They’d need to be completely new.

So basically you’re asking for 5 completely new characters with nothing to draw on AT ALL. Then 2 that would likely have some rejiggering to a decent degree, like Birdie or Mika were, but at least have a good variety of moves to draw on already so wouldn’t be anywhere near as much work as the other ones. Realistically 3~4 should be chars that have been seen in SF4 for the fans to latch on to. S1 has Juri/Guile/Balrog/Ibuki, all chars in SF4. Only Urien/Alex haven’t been seen in a while.

I’d love to see a bunch of those characters, maybe, they could also turn out complete crap. God knows where they’d go with the 5 completely new ones. It could end up just a shitty season.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, no.

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Rival often sound as specular char wich if i was the one to chose i will avoid aside for Ryu-Ken, also tbh young japanese girl is (and soon will be even more) the most overrepresented group of SFV: Karin-Mika-Ibuki-Sakura(unavoidable) seem enough to me without add Maki, two of them are even blond lol.
Also aside the suit (give him army pants lol) i ever liked Wolfman design, seem a european guile mixed with Rolento

I thinked also at FF heroes but i had no Cody in that list (he will be my first pick for a season 2, him and a MT rep) and Haggar is so similar to Gief (i know, don’t quote that lol) that i see him more as later season material

I kinda agree on the Azam-Gief argument actually, it’s the only where i broke “the rule”.
Alex and Gief work well because is pretty asymmetrical: Alex is a big char but visible smaller than Gief/Birdie
Alex is a big but fast-agile-young (aside terrible 3d model face lol) char, while Gief is a total brute power huge tank of soviet strenght

With Azam we return to specular (likely on purpose Bengus play on that in story sketches) char, dude is Aladdin-Gief basically.

At the end is in because of all of them looked to me by far one of the most well done chara designs, dude look really ready to be put in SFV as it is.
Kinda opposite of Tom, that i wanted desperately to add, but i can’t get over about how much they fucked his design (while appreciating Leon glasses/suspenders)

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I edited my post to include some more points but there is nothing wrong with “rivals” they can draw out a lot of great stuff from each other personality wise. Rivalry takes many forms they don’t have to be friendly brotherly rivalries like Ryu - Ken (or the one you might not have thought about: Cody - Guy). They can be more one sided like Rufus - Ken or Adon - Sagat or a totally different type of rivalry like Sagat - Ryu, a mutual respect type of thing. Or, as I would picture Ibuki / Maki, one where they practically outright dislike each other. They try and one up each other, they yell and fight. They might be “on the same side” (good working against a common enemy) but every chance they get they make little snippy comments at each other and such.

We really don’t have a rivalry like this in the SF universe, at least not one I can think of:

We really haven’t had a chance to see that side of Ibuki’s personality. The less care-free side. The Makoto Rivalry really hasn’t ever gone in-depth AFAIK, and the limited stuff I’ve seen it’s more friendly.

Also, Sakura hasn’t been added yet and is merely a bit player in the background of one tiny part of the story :stuck_out_tongue: I do see what you mean by young japanese girl. I just realized you don’t have any female characters on your list. Rose seems like the most logical choice of the characters they released bios for.

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Yeah, Rose was close because she can fit my “realistic” S2, as Sagat will (i did’nt added him neither, to lower the ratio of big chars i favoured Adon), i just tried to made up a less expected ones list
My fav still-not-in female SFrs are Rose and Elena, theyr design/styles/nationality will fit in nicely

I like Nadeshiko with kabuki face paint too, for very VERY later season material can be fun see her with her own style and R.Mika (or a total different female wrestler) as Assist char, but for the same specular thing i favored more unique characters

For the rest the ratio of these bios is like 9/10 (totally made up the number lol) male characters, not surprising my picks end up like that

If there was Rose’s master (and had good chara design) i will have probably added her over somebody, they can invent crazy shit with her powers and she will be unique under many points of view
I also like Helen design, as russian beauty i take her any day over that Cammy-clone shit (btw Decapre will be almost surely in), give her Ice powers with heavy russian accent and i’m sold. Also snowy russian stage pls
Also as much i dislike dolls, if they was in bios list the afrohair-spear-monkey one will have been an almost sure pick,maybe over staff-Goutetsu

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All good points. I will give Capcom credit that thus far I think they’ve done a decent job of balancing out the character types with fan demand, and from what we know about season 1 so far, that seems like it will continue to be the case. Point being, I actually have some faith in them being able to make good choices with future character choices (though I imagine very few of us will be 100% pleased with the choices they make).

Also, while I’d like to see more than 6 characters per season in future seasons, as Garu noted, it is a lot of work. It’s important to keep in mind that Capcom also has to worry about new stages (grassy field with lightning, waterfall from Zero 2, Ryu’s SFII stage, please!), alt. costumes, balance changes, etc. Also, I’m willing to bet that within six months of the game’s release, the staff dedicated to the game will drop considerably, so more than 6 characters per season may be unrealistic.

Nevertheless, at 6 per season and the fact that we have probably 4-5 seasons worth of characters to look forward to, and I think we’ll all eventually get the cast that we want.

13638

I feel like these are the characters they’ve excluded 100% from season 2.

13639

Wich is probably the case, since most of most probable candidates are out of that list

Watching story one think S2 will be

-Ed
-Sakura
-Azam
-Sean
-C.Viper
-Oro
-Decapre

And of these only Azam got a profile (wich i hope does’nt mean he’s out, but sound bad. In his favor they even did an alt design btw)

i hope does’nt mean S2 be
-Ed
-Sakura
-Sean
-C.Viper
-Oro
-Decapre

Because as much i like some of these inclusions, it sound like a pretty flat list. And still got no Muay Thai rep :frowning:

13640

Shin gouki
Azam
Maybe gouken again since he’s still in the plot.
The tom that looks like that soldier from that godzilla remake before the hd version.
Sakura or gouken’s daughter?
Dan
Sagat or newcomer
Makoto
Dudley
If they can retool abel and make him as fun as alex, don’t mind him.
That thicker version of previous sodom.
Honda.
MOTION DEEJAY o______O or charge deejay with faster startup moves