SFV Character Request/Anticipation Thread

[Moonchilde]

I think R.Mika would be a great addition to bring back. So far Necalli is the only grappler, so having her would bring another to the table. If we had R.Mika, Necalli, and Hugo, that would be a good set of grapplers to start off with. *forgot about Birdie. haha!

[SideshowRob]

I’d like Sean to be back in, but with more a focus on jiu jitsu. Kid’s from Brazil, a place well known for it’s jiu jitsu practitioners. Make him something like a shoto grappler. Let him keep his DP, Tornado, and Tackle, but add a couple of command grabs. V-Skill would be a counter grab that would toss the opponent back to neutral. Regular input for high, down+V-skill for lows. V-trigger would be one bar and make it possible for him to combo into a command grab. Like, do a DP, pop V-trigger, and during the little time stop, input the grab and it will combo.

I hope to god that the rumored Brazilian character turns out to be a BJJ practitioner. I really like your ideas!

[Lemres]

I just want to see more of the 3rd Strike cast interact with the SF2/SFA characters. In SF4’s intro and arcade mode, we saw:
Ibuki vs Guy (intro) and Sakura (rival battle)
Dudley vs Boxer
Makoto vs Fei Long
Elena vs Sakura (not really shown, but could set up a later encounter)

Hugo, Poison, and Rolento all had wasted potential by fighting either each other or Guy/Cody with no cutscene.

I want to see:
Oro vs Akuma (properly shown and hyped this time)
Alex vs Zangief
Remy vs Charlie/Guile/Abel
Urien/Gill vs Bison (or Urien vs Juri aka my dream fight)
Sean vs Sakura
Poison vs R.Mika

Poison vs Mika doesnt even make sense. It should be Mika vs Zangief/Karin or whoever else she met in A3.

[Eternal]

Guys how do you feel about guest characters? KI hit another homerun with their new Rash reveal and so did MKX with Predator. Their interpretations of the characters seamlessly fit into their respective universe but kept all their personality.

Is SF that kind of fighter? And which characters do would be a natural fit?

I think subtlety is the key. 3rd party characters work for other games but Street Fighter is and should remain very self contained. Final Fight and SF have a very woven history and the inclusion of those characters is aptly fitting. Typically, the ‘dreammatch’ inclusions should be reserved for cross-over games or other IPs. Street Fighter’s approach (in the past anyways) was to pull from pop culture and have their designs as almost exaggerated or inspired personifications ie. Ryu’s original design emulating Ken from Fist of the Northstar, Fei Long is Bruce Lee, Barlog is Mike Tyson, Q is Mr.A/Question etc.

However, in the interest of freshness and longevity, I believe the only existing Capcom IP that fits Street Fighter as well as Final Fight is Rival Schools. Sakura’s cameo in Rival School/Project Justice suggests that they exist in the same universe and many of the character designs could show up as older versions or re-designed incarnations. I would like to mention the EX series, but since Capcom does not retain ownership of those IPs…it could get messy down the line when considering re-release or alternate versions.

Beyond the standard wandering martial artist trope, Ryu may have actually been based on a real life person. Masutatsu Oyama was likely a big part of the inspiration for Ryu
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8534854&publicUserId=5533646

They actually had a character MORE based on Ken from FOTN that was scrapped in SF2 while Ryu’s design was created likely based on Masutatsu in SF1.

That 1up article is a great read, I highly recommend it.

Akuma is fine as is, you niggas trippin. Big Boss is the perfect example of too much backstory to a villain, people start liking the good guy version so much shit gets retconned to “hes not REALLY a bad guy, hes just MISUNDERSTOOD”

foh. akuma wanted to achieve the ultimate power and become a true martial artist. if you think thats “not much to him” then that speaks on you. he serves as the lesson to ryu and ken that absolute power comes with its drawbacks and negatives.

The MGS3 / Peace walker story did make him more sympathetic but he was always viewed as a not truly BAD guy, just had a different view on society. Actually sympathetic villains are much better than “I’m bad HAHAHAHHA” villains because most of the big bad criminals in the world don’t think that they are evil. Freedom fighter and terrorist are two sides of the same coin in many cases.

Ken has always been more reckless and hostile. I doubt he’d be bitter about Oro not taking him as a student. He’s probably happy the way he is, after all he’s a cocky bastard. Besides, he’s at the point where he’ll start teaching his son how to fight and won’t have time to train under a new master.

Oro would be a good balance to the “dark” powers in the game. Akuma will be an obvious rivalry, and Bison would probably take an interest in him as well considering he’s cheated death for so long. Throw in Necalli, who, like Garuda, feeds off souls and wields his own sort of power, would probably take an interest as well. Akuma vs Necalli would make a lot of sense, too, and Necalli would probably consider Akuma a tasty treat. Necalli vs Bison also makes a lot of sense, as Necalli seems to possess a more raw and wild type of psycho power.

Oro and Akuma would make obvious choices based on the story moving forward, that is, if this is post SF3. If it’s pre-SF3, then Oro is out. Necalli being a character who feeds on souls fits right in with Bison and Akuma. There HAS to be a Necalli vs Akuma rivalry, both seem like forces of nature outside of the good/evil thing.

Anyone have any thoughts on what I brought up earlier about Vega being the longest range fighter we’ve seen at the moment yet is only a 3 out of 5 for range? It would make a lot of sense if Hugo, Necro, or Dhalsim made it in the core 16. Out of those, Necro and Hugo would probably rate as 4 and Dhalsim would probably rate a 5. If 2 are going to make it, I would guess Hugo and Dhalsim. Someone needs to hit the 4 and 5 points!

Range accounts for multiple factors beyond poke range. Chun has long pokes + a fireball for instance. Birdie has his chain attack + hop throw + long reaching pokes. I think that is how they are accounting for “range”

[Metroxylon]

I’ve been thinking Ryu is based on (the obvious) Sonny Chiba

And perhaps more obscure and unlikely, Matt Dillon’s character from Rumble Fish, “Rusty James”.

And yeah that would be Sakura on the left.

[Daikuza]

I think R.Mika would be a great addition to bring back. So far Necalli is the only grappler, so having her would bring another to the table. If we had R.Mika, Necalli, and Hugo, that would be a good set of grapplers to start off with. *forgot about Birdie. haha!

Necalli isn’t a grappler just because he has a command grab. That’s like saying Honda is a grappler because of that.
I agree that R.Mika needs a spot in this game, but this time not as a trash tier character, please Capcom!

[PVL_93_RU]

Oro vs Akuma (properly shown and hyped this time)

I feel like this batle would end in a draw, but yeah, it would needed to be set up correctly in the game as well

Alex vs Zangief

American grappler vs Russian wrestler? Feels a bit forced like Fuerte vs Gief

Remy vs Charlie/Guile/Abel

Why Remy vs Abel? They have no connection to each other

Urien/Gill vs Bison (or Urien vs Juri aka my dream fight)

Oh yeah, an epic duel of two villains

Sean vs Sakura

Why? Ryu’s isn’t really Sakura’s teacher, she just admires him as a martial artist, so this rival battle wouldn’t work because it’s literally setting up a student vs student, and Sean might not even be Ken’s student in 5

Poison vs R.Mika

No, just no

[Megaton_Claw]

Remy vs Charlie/Guile/Abel

Why Remy vs Abel? They have no connection to each other

Both are french

[PVL_93_RU]

Remy vs Charlie/Guile/Abel

Why Remy vs Abel? They have no connection to each other

Both are french

Oh come on, that’s even more forced of a rival battle than Fei Long vs Abel in SF4

[Daemos]

Remy vs Charlie/Guile/Abel

Why Remy vs Abel? They have no connection to each other

Both are french

Abel was adopted by a French father and has only been ‘french’ for five years. Abel was grown in a lab.

[Moonchilde]

Range accounts for multiple factors beyond poke range. Chun has long pokes + a fireball for instance. Birdie has his chain attack + hop throw + long reaching pokes. I think that is how they are accounting for “range”

Ryu, Ken, and Nash have level 2 range. Fireballs are not accounted for, so it has to come from physical attacks.

[R-D]

Chun has range on almost every button. I’d guess that’s where it comes from.

Vega and Cammy have more angled buttons compared to before. For example Vega doesn’t have a standing kick that hits straight ahead, and Cammy’s buttons remind me more of Yang than herself. Although Vega does have some that reach very far, and Cammy has some good kicks.

Meanwhile Ryu has stubby normals, so he got stuck with range 2 until now, where I assume they decided to count fireballs again.

[Moonchilde]

Chun has range on almost every button. I’d guess that’s where it comes from.

I’m not familiar with Chun enough, but maybe that’s correct. Perhaps it’s the amount of buttons that has range vs the longest range of the character’s longest attack.

[Neclord]

Nobody is talking about Ono’s picture on twitter?

“I could get two figures on my desk at CapcomUSA! My desk doesn’t have free space…” - Ono

[Rayartz]

Everyone is pointing out Juri and E. Ryu but never mind that dude doing some Yoga stretching off to the left?
lol

Juri - YES
E. Ryu - Blah
Sim - …I bet he’d be truly scary in this game.

[Daemos]

Totally down for both Juri and Sim.

[Mangy_Cat]

Nobody is talking about Ono’s picture on twitter?

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2015/08/12_onoeryujurihint01.jpg

“I could get two figures on my desk at CapcomUSA! My desk doesn’t have free space…” - Ono

I’d be in for Juri if they revealed her with underboobs like that.

[Rayartz]

Underboob is a win! lol
She has such a new and great design I’m not sure if Capcom would change it up any.

Actually…you know would kinda cool. If Capcom released some sort of voting pole for fan feedback on everyone’s favorite costumes.
Maybe then I’d get to see SF5 Chun rocking that evening gown…

[blufang]

Sim and Juri would be great additions. Evil Ryu, I don’t think Capcom is that stupid, they said they wanted ‘no clones’…Evil Ryu is the most clonish of all the shoto clones.

[PVL_93_RU]

Nobody is talking about Ono’s picture on twitter?

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2015/08/12_onoeryujurihint01.jpg

“I could get two figures on my desk at CapcomUSA! My desk doesn’t have free space…” - Ono

So maybe all these pictures with various figurines DO mean something. Ono, you clever bastard