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by design i will discuss. and i dont care if u dont respond back. its your loss if you dont understand my insight.
FU mickey 
I need to be more cerebral and thoughtful when I play. Itâs astonishing to me how often I am just âwinging itâ while playing. Instead of actually thinking about the end goal Iâm just playing to drain the life of the other person. But that I need to work towards a higher level analysis of planning ahead while playing. Iâll jump in and many times Iâm just so used to following up with c.mk hadoken. I didnât even take the time to see if the jump-in connected and do a more damage combo, even something like c.hp tatsu would be better. I guess what Iâm saying is I need to think further along in the decision tree than just âwhat am I doing right now.â I need to think ahead for myself and my opponent. âWhat is my option A and option Bâ, as well as what are my opponentâs option A and option B.
Sometimes when I am being more cerebral I can tell. I get the sensation that the game slows down. Instead of trying to panic srk on reaction, I should be looking for that srk and getting my opponent to jump into it.
First of all to the first sentence, I wasnât implying that knowledge is everything. I believe that individual practice, study, and real matches (both casual and competitive) gives you the best chances of learning to be a better player. I think without one or the other you are handicapping yourself. Just because you can do it a certain way doesnât mean you should. Why deny yourself more resources? What is there to gain? You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
We had a discussion before in which I said the top players tended to have years of experience or a lot of time to play. You said this was false and cited people like fatbear as an example. AFAIK he studied online through vids and forums and frame data in addition to practicing. He didnât just magically get good. There are things that are collective knowledge of a large group of players that you couldnât possibly just âcome up with on your ownâ. Even if you came up with a lot of it, somebody probably has a trick or gimmick you havenât seen before.
I mean hell, even for testing out combos or what punishes what in SF it can be hard to do without another player to help you. Yeah you can set the computer to spam a move or something but that doesnât always work exactly how you need it to for purposes of testing. Itâs much simpler to look up some info online.
Donât get me wrong. When I get stuck, when I struggle with a matchup I goof around. I try different things to get out of traps. I get a general feel for my normals and how I can use them to string them together or what combos into what. I take that and combine it with the information I find online as well as practicing my execution to make me a better player. Iâd definitely say right now that doesnât show much because I havenât been playing SF much lately, but Iâm planning on getting back to it soon.
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Once I understood that itâs okay to eat 10 throws because they still donât TRULY get momentum because I am not panicking, I improved exponentially. Rather than the previous âoh god Iâve been thrown thereâs so much that could happenâ it turned into âsweet I got thrown, hereâs where I get a quick break from the tension, a place to assess what theyâre doing, letâs just block. Oh oops another throw, oh well thatâs like 5% damage who cares, they still havenât landed that super.â
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EXCatly. I could careless in SF4 if I get tossed. Not like anything is going to happen other then a throw plus Iâm GDLK @ blocking so it doesnât matter if you try to mix me up, I ainât falling for that
you cannot win by just thinking âI am gonna body this guyâ that is bullshit stupid arrogance. <----- This mindset always works for me
Well then I apologize.
Itâs not fair, you play Marvel.
SiiiiiiiiiiighâŚthe Shoryuken.com forums. The necessary evil. I didnât wanna post in this thread because I figured it was something that was better suited for like SeattleVersus but here I am posting. Sad state of affairs I know. I wanted to tackle a couple points made.
1-The whole âEating a grabâ thing as it pertains to SFIV. It is indeed a valid strategy, but you guys should keep in mind that this is Elias talking. He uses Rufus, who has 1150 vitality, and last I checked thatâs the second highest in the game. So to the rest of you guys, youâre willing to let say, Viper grab you? Youâre willing to let an Abel regular throw you and push mixups? Youâre willing to let Cammy backthrow you into an ambiguous mixup? Iâm sure you get the idea here. Countless characters have some sort of safe jump/option select mixup from grabs. Throws arenât exactly something to shrug off in SFIV.
2-The whole mentality affecting matchups thing is completely true KKF. Youâre right, itâs not a jedi mind trick, but it might as well be for as misunderstood as this particular concept is. A person can be the most confident person in the world, but if they donât know how to play, they arenât going to win. This is common knowledge. Watch me play Chess. I donât know what the fuck Iâm doing, but Iâm very confident that when I do know, youâll lose. Now factor that into a tournament set. Between two equally skilled opponents on your side of the bracket, whoâs more likely to beat youâŚthe guy thatâs sure heâs gonna beat you, or the guy that doesnât think he can win. Easy, no thought required there. Skill, talent, game knowledge, and anything game related is nothing without the proper mentality behind it. This goes for anything in life. Mentality entails confidence, will power, anything that isnât game related. I would even say that strategy can be applicable to both aspects because the way you conduct yourself before a match can affect how that match is played out, and anybody that was at TW last Saturday should know very well what Iâm talking about.
And to illustrate my point further, Iâll even bring up a recent scenario regarding mentality that I was apart of. I was over at Pâs house last week in an attempt to help him train for Strongstyle. This actual session is probably the best Iâve ever played at his house, and this was due to a mix of skill and mentality. There was a point where he began to beat me down as he normally does, but this was different than before. This is him coming back from having lost so many matches. My honest thoughts? âOkay good, but youâre not the only one that hates losing.â And with that mindset, I forced myself to adapt and play better. Now I couldâve easily checked out, not matched wills, and wrote it off as me hating the game because I donât like Tekken. I have before in plenty of other games, so why not now? Because my friend needs practice, and I hate losing, thatâs why. Itâs easy to just say, play with people who are better and learn from it. People do that all the time and never improve. There has to be a PURPOSE in mind. There has to be a direction. Your mentality provides that outlet, the skill takes care of the rest. If it were as easy as just playing with someone better then Seattle would be the most almightiest SFIV scene thereâs ever been and we know that isnât the case. The way you think, the way you feel, thatâs the missing ingredient. I <3 you Frank, please donât reply, I hate posting lmao. :wonder:
3- Ray, if I were to come up with an answer to your question, it would be because those same players grew up in an age where there were no videos. No youtube.com, no shoryuken.com. They didnât need it before and it wasnât necessary in order to learn those games in the old days. All you needed back then was an arcade and people that were willing to play with you. Part of it is stubbornness thatâs for sure, but thatâs what theyâre used to. I remember when I first played ST in the arcade as a kid, and this guy did Chun Liâs super, and I thought it was the most amazing thing in the world (besides the first time I saw spinning bird kick lol). So I ask him âHey how did you do that?!â He replies âI dunno.â He proceeds to do it three more times and as Iâm only 11, I get more and more upset as he wonât tell me. When did I learn how to do it? When Gamepro did a segment on Super Turbo and listed all of the supers in the game =/. Information is so much easier to come by these days than it was back then, and I think itâs simply a mindset of âif it ainât broke then donât try to fix it.â
Man, itâs interesting to note that pretty much everybody in this thread wants to be a teacher. A few people appreciate and digest otherâs words, and then follow it up with their own touch of advice. Iâm not criticizing anyone for this, just commenting that I think itâs fascinating what you guys do here. Those of you that have posted, that is.
Edited due to a misunderstanding on my part. haha.
I originally said a whole bunch of non sense about experience and shit to RayBladeX thinking that he had said what he was actually quoting from GrayFoxâŚAnd after reading GrayFoxâs original post I see now how I wasnât making sense. Oh boyâŚ
He only wrote the bottom sentence tanaka.
The paragraph in quotesâŚI wrote that.
Itâs out of context, and you completely misinterpreted everything I said.
Next time use quote tags Ray -_-.
Whoa shitâŚhaha, I see what happened nowâŚWell that changes everything. Time to edit.
No wonder it was weird that RayBladeX was seemingly answering his own question. I thought he actually said what you had said, and that wasnât only a part of what you said. My bad GrayFox, your original post makes perfect sense. Please forgive the non sense I said in response to something completely different.
And RayBladeX, since now I know that youâre actual post was also something completely different, then just know you confused the shit out of me and I have nothing to say now that I figured out the misunderstanding.
Itâs all good man, no worries!
the never lose mentality only helps in one way. It takes away hesatation from your gameplay. If you are sure u will âbodyâ your opponent, you wont think twice what he will do, cause in your head the opponent will lose no matter what.
unfortunately, most of the people that play in seattle are such bad players, they cannot truly rely on this mentality while playing.
if you need to read an article about why you should block.
if you need to read an article about why you should not attack a person when they got ultra or bars.
then u are not ready to try to understand the mental game. U got a lot of other stuff to work on. like some fucking basics.
STOP playing your scrub ass friends. Stop reading scrub ass posts on srk. Go find some beasts and play them over and over and over day after day, week after week, and u will be a sea top in no time.
then when ur a sea top. take your skills, and train your scrub ass friends to become grandmasters.
Good point, good point. I suppose I mean to say that RATHER THAN PANIC, eat a throw. Donât get all anxious about upcoming throws. If they find a hole in your defense and throw you, itâs okay. I see a lot of players completely lose their composure after like 2 throws.
would like to read more of this later
Also a couple of things I wanted to throw out there elias.
Chun can do Hazanshu ->super, Hazanshu ->c.jab ->s.fp, or hazanshu ->c.lk x ex legs -> ultra.
Boxer can do overhead punch, low jab x headbutt ->ultra too.
/2 cents.
You could probably just do the jab straight into ultra instead of the headbutt. Doesnât that link work?
That Chun combo just sounds gross, Iâd like to see it.
Youâre hella random.
Can someone please sticky this noteâŚNever knew this shit!!!
I find using cr.mp easier to have more leeway, and eliminates range problems in the combo
overhead, cr.mp. headbutt - ultra.
overhead, cr,mp, ex uppercut, cr. lp shennagins.
Yeah, Fox said that.
But by context I assume you meant cr.mp there?
Sorry I should have quoted elias to explain why I said that.
He was saying how overheads donât lead into additional damage, I was trying to give some evidence that they in fact do.
Wasnât trying to say âHEY GUYS LOOK AT THIS COMBO I FIGURED OUTâ