Seth Q&A: Ask simple questions here!

kakay · August 28, 2011, 2:45pm

xlxlxlxl:

You need to FADC the Sonic boom as it is being “born”. Try FADCing full-screen sonic booms to learn the timing. I use Jab sonic boom when I’m cancelling from standing fierce and fierce sonic boom when I’m cancelling from crouching forward.

You need to do 2 hits of strong SRK (into 2 stomps and divekick) instead of jab SRK into stomps. Dudley has a weird hitbox. Things like point-blank SRK FADC neutral jump stomps don’t connect on him properly either. The AE stomp changes make things even harder.

Vanilla Divekick started up in 8 frames, so that little pause he does before the move isn’t really noticeable.
Super Divekick starts up in 12 frames, so it’s easier to react to.
AE Divekick lost some hitstun and blockstun, so it’s harder to hit-confirm form. It isn’t even faster than the Super version. I’m assuming that was another lie from the devs or the change is too minute to matter.

Also, don’t make the same post in every thread like that. Just ask questions in the Q&A thread.

tnx.im sorry its just my first time commenting in forums ehehe…il remember what uve said.tnx agen

bullrage · September 2, 2011, 12:45am

Hey people i just want to know if jump kicks are always safe? ie look at this vid at 4,16 i think he delayed the jump kick as soon as he touched the floor to make it safe. right? so delay the jump kick until the last sec, then it will become safe all the time ??

xlxlxlxl · September 2, 2011, 1:58am

No, Yang’s DP has a 5 frame startup. Characters with 3 and 4 frame DPs can hit you out of safe-jump setups.

bullrage · September 2, 2011, 2:27am

AAAAAHH, Wakateru, arigatou, but can u tell me which chars have them and which dont if thats too much to ask.

xlxlxlxl · September 2, 2011, 2:48am

Off the top of my head I know that Ryu, Evil Ryu, Akuma, & Oni have 3 frame reversals and Ken, Guile, & DeeJay (EX only) have 4 frame reversals.

I’m positive that there are more. Check here.

Kanta-Kun · September 2, 2011, 9:32am

etcetera?

I imagine Akuma’s is done with his palm (0 delay on landing), don’t know cammy. Can you get me any other examples? Since, you know, “etc”.

Pokey86 · September 2, 2011, 9:44am

^^I’m pretty sure he’s talking about a well angled Demon Flip -> Dive Kick/ (EX) Canon Strike in that, if they do an SRK they go under you.^^

Damn, i remember the days Akuma had instant recovery on his Demon Flip throws… the greatest safe jump in existence.

JYX · September 2, 2011, 1:50pm

You could also jump at a range where the first frame of the dp won’t connect.

Deyrax · September 2, 2011, 4:07pm

I’ve edited Seth’s bcm and bca files a bit and replaced Seth’s player moves with boss Seth’s moves. There are 4 moves apparently, vanilla teleports (super fast with no delay after performing them), 8HP ( Dhalsim-like one probably), Dive kick which is much faster ( probably vanilla one), and also Ex SPD. I haven’t noticed anything special in boss EX SPD though, maybe someone knows what does it have over player’s EX SPD ? More invincibility or faster start up ?

zack1989 · September 2, 2011, 8:55pm

wat is the best punish for back jump,other then u1 and far feirce,like balrog jump back fierce or HK,really its annoying when they jump back to a safe distance out of seth’s mixup range,yes you can tandem engine to pull them again but frame advantage wont be the same.

Staying_Free · September 2, 2011, 10:36pm

Depends on what happens, where you’re at, and what character you’re playing against.

Follow them into the air with j.MP, head stomp (x3), Dive kick.
EX Tanden, BnB.
MP/HP Tanden, cr.LP into whatever or LP / EX SPD.
Dash forward, cr.HP into whatever.

zack1989 · September 5, 2011, 11:36pm

Guy Guy Guy Anyone?
How do u play against him.What general rush down strategies work best,because stomps whiff alot against Guy,He Cant Be Zone All The Time,Strategies After Getting A KnockDown?.Guy has a good backdash so srk frame trap on guy’s wakeup does not work and its too risky Because Of BackDash(Guess I Need To Use Tandem Engine on Wakeups). I Need To Know How To Punish That Sick Bunshin Throw On Seth’s Wakeup.Safe Jump Setups After Spd,Sweep And SRK?.This is a new matchup for me,i watched few videos of poongko against combofined and poongko got destroyed and it looks to me its kind of a bad matchup for Seth.An Explained Answer With Range Specification Will Be Greatly Appreciated,What Are My Options at Full,Mid And Close Range And What Should I Bait And Look For At Those Ranges.In Short If Someone Can Please Completely BreakDown The Guy Matchup Please.Also If I Jab OS U2 on guy’s Wakeup Will It Work If Guy Reversal’s With EX Dp.

N0_d3N1AL · September 15, 2011, 5:48pm

Question: Why does Seth have a purple skirt in one of his costume packs?

_Insert_Name_Here · September 16, 2011, 4:31am

It’s a suit torn off to reveal his Tanden Engine. Yeah, Seth has some shitty costumes.

Preywinder · September 18, 2011, 11:04pm

I see the term “frame trap” being thrown around loosely a lot when it has to do with SSF4. I think it has something to do with baiting reversals, but that’s all I know. Could someone clear this up for me? Much appreciated.

_Insert_Name_Here · September 18, 2011, 11:54pm

From the SRK Glossary:

nickdekline · September 20, 2011, 12:58am

what are some good set ups for tandem engine?

Kikuichimonji · September 20, 2011, 3:52am

Tanden Engine can be cancelled into off cr.mp, s.hp, cr.hp, or cr.mk for a blockstring but you can be hit out of it on startup. You can anti-air with it sometimes. It is a good meaty because it catches backdashes.

Also, Seth with pants is a tier higher than Seth without pants.

eclectic143 · October 2, 2011, 1:11am

i got a friend that plays e.ryu and he always beats me by being across the stage spamming hadukens and wen i wall jump and dive in he dps me all the time. there are times where i get close to him but the majority of the match is like tht even wen hes still in the middle of hadukening he still hits me wit a dp. how do i beat this match up

Staying_Free · October 2, 2011, 1:15am

Something of a problem for seth with all fireball zoning characters right now. It is something you can deal with though:

if they’re being very predictable, jump back a lot. eventually, pick a time to wall jump and get a nice clean punish with j.HK, cst.HP xx HP DP / HK Legs into mix ups.
if they’re not being predictable, try to react to the sound or animation of the fireball and EX Hyakuretsu through it at mid-screen.
Tanden Engine them in if they aren’t being predictable. Messes up their spacing and brings them closer to you.
j.MK and hold towards them and you can slowly move in. Walk and block otherwise. Usually the option you have to fall back on.

Basically, bully them into a corner so they can’t.