come on man I said hit confirm c mk xx DS, who can hitconfirm a ds

Thats what I mean. You must have JWong level reaction time cause that shit is hard.

Hit confirm DS? never…Not worth doing…I hope that’s not what u meant, 1 hit parry. O yea, another type of super that doesn’t have invincibility frames are what I call “enhancement” supers, like Genei Jin, Yang’s Seien Enbu, Oro’s SA1, and Makoto’s SA3, and Q’s SA3…

3SJ, when I was talking about hit confirming, you were talking about parrying into SA2 like it was the same thing, and we all know it isn’t…all i am going to ask is please clarify next time.

During the recovery of your tornado kick, you can get attacked, so if they decided to super, jumping is not an option…and you more probable to getting throw, even if the attack hits…it just doesnt stun enough for you to be safe…

Now, for my apology, I thought when you were brought up the HK to SA1, I thought you were saying it as if you dont get good damage…I will admit I was wrong

And when I meant his speed wasnt a weakness…i wasnt talking about any of his normals, i meant the overall speed of Sean, that’s all…he has a somewhat fast movement…decent walking speed, and fast dashes…that’s helpful…the extra frames in his normals is definitely not helpful…that i will agree with you…

And for what I has happy to hear, that you don’t spam bball wakeup tactics…that’s a bad thing that beginner Seans do…and then do the same followup after it…like a headbutt, or low attack…they gotta learn to do something different everytime…just dont get used to doing it to ppl that have DPs, cuz they can blow past all of that…Q and Hugo are 2 ppl you can do it to without much retaliation at all…I know there are others, but i wont go into that in this p
Also glad you see the good things in all the specials, as do I. Just as I said b4, chose wisely and analyze when it would be a good time to do it…

And also i’m glad u see some hope with Sean, as do I and Bodler. I know there’s others, but I can’t speak on them, seeing how I don’t know how far they are with him…He’s a good character, even if ppl say he’s limited…and he can win just like anyone else, I know alone I proved that a ton of times…just when you play more and more, like anyone else, you will make wiser choices and see what works and what doesnt, like I used to use EX DP way more than I would now…I’m actually getting further away from it the more I use Sean…when ppl’s skill level is higher, things are taken into consideration, and it’s all done on the fly, building meter and when to use it, punishment and the max way of doing it in whatever situation, and other things…For me, also using ken/ryu helped my gameplay with Sean as well (as I said worked for me, you can possibly learn it while only using sean), ken being with speed and proper placement/range, and ryu for using solid hits and how to pack some stun.

Well I thought people could hit confirm Ken’s low mk into super, so I figured they could also hit confirm that into DS. Looks like I was wrong. In any case, Makoto SA III has invincibility if you activate and just sit there.

havent had one makoto yet that used that super art and couldnt hit them when they activated it…if it is…then i apologize…i didnt see it having any invincibility frames…i know the other ones dont.

ah, got to go down to the arcade today and get in some ok challenges. lost once (only cos i havent taken on a good twelve in aaaages) but other than that i was definitely the one to beat! …cant wait to go to work on monday…

About Sean’s Tornado Kick; what can you hit confirm into it?
Also will the HK Tornado only combo, if St. HK hit a crouching opponent?

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It’s really not worth using reliability. But it has invincibility nonetheless.

HK tornado kick wont combo at all…under any circumstances…

s.mp, s.hp, s.hk, c.mk, c.mp, c.hp, can confirm to some version of tornado kick (except HK).

EDIT: I never did a projectile when they when a Makoto activated sa3, maybe just projectile invincible perhaps?

Nothing combos into RH tornado. Its useless AND unsafe. With a -2 frame advantage why use it?

Fp,mk tornado is better.

working on making match vids, been so damn busy lately.

Do you play on 2d fighter?

yea, i do, but i havent been on there recently, and I dont get on often when i could. I just wiped my computer clean, and lost everything. I just got 3rd strike back, so I should be back on there soon.

Don’t give up on low tiers.

The reason why they are low tiers is because people will favor natural ability over true skill. That and you take popularity and ease into account, that’s why people favor Chun Li, Yun, Makoto and Ken over everyone else is because they can defeat others with ease.

Ken is better than Sean in many natural aspects, but with skill, precision and patience…plus having knowledge of your opponents weaknesses will overcome any natural advantage such as more speed or power. It just takes time, just like if you was playing with Remy, twelve, Hugo…hell any low to mid tier characters besides Ryu.

I CERTAINLY haven’t given up being good with Sean just because I main Alex more than Sean…I"m equally as effective with Sean as I am with Alex.

Mindgames, Mix up, techs, parry skills and everything else must be taken into account when playing with anybody. So you might as well smile while taking a beating because you know how things are going to go down Round 2 >.>

…and if you experiment, you might have a killer Sean player and you might win a shitload of tournaments. That’s what seperates the good players from the ordinary. If Kuroda and Hayao can take low tier characters and be killer in the tourney circuit, so can you with Sean. I guess that’s why I haven’t gave up on him or Alex…because i’m doing too damn good to stop now. That’s why next year i’m going to main Sean and try my luck. Hell i’m doing it now with local tourneys…and i’ve gotten my success…but it’s all small compared to winning the bigger tourneys and that’s what i’m shooting for.

No high tier bullshit is keeping me down.

im entering my first tournament next week with sean as my main and oro as my second (i find sean harder against certain characters). i find playing sean has really boosted my game - im more an opportunist now. plus hes fun!

wooo! tourney tonight. sean’s gonna pwn some n00bs. my secret goal tonight is to do my new ultimate combo. roll behind->roll behind again->roll. so awesome it should do 100% damage…

stupidlikeafox, it’s good to hear that ur using him 4 tournies…I should start doing that, now that I will have a lot of time available. Actually I got an NC tourney I’m going to and I will use Sean. But um, 3SJ, I play on there now, just hit me up if u wanna go some rounds.

ooo, man i need a fast internet connection! :wink:

well, i came second in my tournament. its not often you see a hugo vs sean final lol. played well first match then started to play bad and ended up getting beat 2 - 0. thats cool coz he was the “one to beat” and i did real well against one of the other “favourites” too. they were taping it so hopefully will be able to find the match vids!

Yeah man we would love to see those tournament videos and help you step your game up with Sean. Good job coming in second place, it’s alot coming from Sean.

yeah, i wanted to start with sean then play as oro, but the way it was set up i switched. won 3/4 good matches so im pretty pleased.