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[RadicalFuzz]

Steam Skullgirls Forum.

“Why is 1v2, 1v3 so unbalanced?” - LINK

Read at your own risk.

[Great_Dark_Hero]

LOL More players taking online seriously…
Speaking of which, we have more… disgusting “articles” to showcase.

Fighting games are the worst

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[d3v]

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I like how he talks about scrubs, when by the legit, academic definition of the word, he’s one himself.

[Niitris]

LOL More players taking online seriously…
Speaking of which, we have more… disgusting “articles” to showcase.
http://venturebeat.com/2012/07/07/fighting-games-are-the-worst/

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Even in sports games such as: Madden or Tiger Woods PGA. I can admit failure and move on.

Perhaps I am just a sore loser when it comes to fighting games, but instead of admitting defeat I’ll just blame the genre for being the worst.

Losing in a sport and losing in a fight (aka a sport) is the same damn thing lmao.

[Pertho]

Steam Skullgirls Forum.

“Why is 1v2, 1v3 so unbalanced?”

Read at your own risk.

i’m not gonna lie, SG is way less interesting to me when the teams aren’t a similar size. 1v3 being the match I dislike the most because of that damage inequality. It almost feels like if I don’t have some crazy zoning team, I need to learn some ridiculous combo to deal proper damage. This isn’t quite the case but eating hella damage from one accidental drop kinda gives you that unclean MvC3 feeling. Love it to death but bleh, them gripes.

[Lance3rd]

[quote=“d3v, post:5543, topic:126995”]

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I like how he talks about scrubs, when by the legit, academic definition of the word, he’s one himself.

this happens a lot. earlier today I was playing a guy on 3SOE with a mic who kept telling me I’m a scrub because all I can do is win with top tier characters. people in this thread aren’t the only people who misappropriate the word!

[d3v]

Steam Skullgirls Forum.

“Why is 1v2, 1v3 so unbalanced?”

Read at your own risk.

i’m not gonna lie, SG is way less interesting to me when the teams aren’t a similar size. 1v3 being the match I dislike the most because of that damage inequality. It almost feels like if I don’t have some crazy zoning team, I need to learn some ridiculous combo to deal proper damage. This isn’t quite the case but eating hella damage from one accidental drop kinda gives you that unclean MvC3 feeling. Love it to death but bleh, them gripes.

Assymetrical teams are always going to bitch to balance and make feel “right”. Even Skullgirls doesn’t truly get it right and there are times where the system does seem to favor one over the other.

Also, I will agree that 3v3 is where the game seems to work best.

[Waffles775]

I remember everyone around here considered throwing “cheap”. So if you were to accidentally throw someone in a match you’d do something called “respect” and let the other guy throw you back haha, good ol days… I dunno that might’ve been just a thing that started around here, I dunno if anything like that ever existed in the States

I found this when browsing around the HDR boards.

[Xr0s-up]

You guys see Viscant’s tweet on beating lowtiergod?

Jay Snyder (JayViscant)

[Pertho]

Assymetrical teams are always going to bitch to balance and make feel “right”. Even Skullgirls doesn’t truly get it right and there are times where the system does seem to favor one over the other.

Also, I will agree that 3v3 is where the game seems to work best.

2v3 is kind of neat; the tension between extra damage or an extra assist has some tactical weight to it. The thing about 1v2/3 is that once you a really fast character going Hulk Retard on you shit gets pretty crazy.

I think its kind of interesting how there are things that as a player I dislike which can sometimes come across as a scrubquote. For example, there are some character designs that make certain games so unfun to me that I’ve stopped playing them. Nu-13 in OG BlazBlu is #1 all star for that kind of design. She made the game so unenjoyable that I just said fuck it. I had the same problem with Zero/Wolverine in MvC3; they just weren’t fun to fight against.

Strangely enough though, I’ve enjoyed getting rushdown mercilessly by Magneto, zoned out relentlessly by Sagat in ST (I play Chun which is a terrible match up for her), and dealing with other random bullshit in various games. Something about Nu-13/Zero/Wolverine just suck the fun out of me. Being able to look at parts of a game and be honest with themselves about whether that’s something enjoyable for them is a big problem with new players. Instead of throwing out some flurry of crap, just admit you don’t really enjoy the game and move on with your life.

[drwill439]

I remember everyone around here considered throwing “cheap”. So if you were to accidentally throw someone in a match you’d do something called “respect” and let the other guy throw you back haha, good ol days… I dunno that might’ve been just a thing that started around here, I dunno if anything like that ever existed in the States

I found this when browsing around the HDR boards.

Every once in a while, when my father and I play SSF2T, he’ll do a throw on ‘accident’ and insist that I throw him back. Like, the man will stop play entirely to make sure it’s “fair.” It did exist in the States. I don’t think anyone does it anymore (I’ve never done it outside of with my dad.)

[Chad]

(I’ve never done it outside of with my dad.)

GROSS

[drwill439]

(I’ve never done it outside of with my dad.)

GROSS

This is like the 8th time today I’ve walked into a joke like that…

[Magnet_Technician]

http://www.projectafterforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1363

“Scrubs” is such an elitist, dickhead thing. The whole concept is completely relative and arbitrary.

You know, in my experience, it’s the people who spam the same move over and over and exploit cheap strategies that would be counted as less-skilled gamers. So I really can’t tell where this idiot is coming from.

Playing to Win just brings out the scrubbiness in people.

[AirLancer]

More Extra Credits comment gold:

Yeah, most players in the Fighting Games community seem to be pretty elitist. I was having some argument up further with some elitist who thinks every fighting game is perfectly made and few of them have flaws.

I used to enjoy some of the older fighting games with my friends. But, the minute you step online in one of these games, be prepared to be spammed, infini-combo’d, and air juggled. No skill in any of that. Just “learn a series of 4 attacks and keep using them over and over again because it’s the cheapest way to get a win”. You can Youtube these games. I’m not even kidding. Even the “highest level play” is basically whomever call pull off the “infinity combo” first to win. It’s a lot of just trying to land the first blow and once you do, you’ve already won. That’s not skill, it’s not fun, it’s blatant memorization and exploitation because the game devs didn’t know any better.

Let me put it to you this way: If a fighting game had true “high level skilled play”, you could cancel out any combo at any time, including in the middle of it by simply knowing what to do. Combo hits at high level play would be earned outsmarting your opponent so that they are putting in the wrong buttons to cancel it. Basically, trying to combo would more often than not result in getting your own ass kicked, unless you were smarter than your opponent instead of just luckier.

Do the people who suggest these combo breaker mechanics just actively ignore the existence of Killer Instinct?

[Screw_Tiers]

Do the people who suggest these combo breaker mechanics just actively ignore the existence of Killer Instinct?

I’m guessing:

1. It’s only on Xbox One
   2) They think it is a terrible game
   3) They just give no fucks

[Initial_R_1]

No, they’re just ignorant scrubs. Plain and simple.

Edit: I just read that entire thread and man oh man… There is only like 10 post in that entire 5 page thread that WOULDN’ T be considered scrubby.

[AirLancer]

Same guy, same nonsense:

When my friend was playing the Fighting Games and complaining about the combos, that was my initial stance on it as well. After watching him play and then watching the “high level play” videos on Youtube… Well, it kind of changed my opinion on the whole “combo” thing. Especially when so many of those videos are using the same combos in the same games.

I get that learning how to combo in the first place takes time. Same as learning history, sure. But, the act is just memorization, it isn’t really a measure of skill so much as a measure of ability to memorize something. Just like History, you can memorize names, facts, and figures all day long… But it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve learned anything, or learned how to apply that knowledge. It just means you’ve memorized it. In that same vein, anyone who puts forth the time could memorize it as well, thus making it not as “skillful”.

Sure, some matches can go as long as 15 seconds without a strike… But after that first strike, it’s over in another 6 seconds. The player on the receiving end need just set down their controller and grab a drink as there’s almost nothing they can do to recover at that point. I don’t know about you… But games like chess (which do require skill, strategy, player reading, etcetera) don’t have any sort of mechanic as “instant loss the moment you get hit”. A game of Chess can be won with a minimum amount of pieces, so losing some of them doesn’t result in an instant loss, because it requires skill. Meanwhile, high level play of most fighting games requires simply landing a single strike to win the match. At that point, why even have a health bar? Why not just play that one fighting game where landing a single blow wins the game? Same concept.

Also, that person’s history teacher failed them if that’s what he thinks of learning history.

[RadicalFuzz]

Sirlin: You’re not going to see a classic scrub throw his opponent 5 times in a row. But why not?

OP: Because scrubs don’t know how to set up Dhalsim’s FUCKING corner throw loops or Zangief’s GODDAMN tick throw combo that does like 80% damage because what the fuck I hate this game.

As for things that are cheap, here are some things that immediately come to mind:

1. Chain grabbing: It’s when you grab somebody, toss them downward, and the proceed to grab them again before the game allows them to do anything about it. Thus, the victim will be trapped in the loop until they are at a high enough damage to be knocked away from the chain grabber.

2. Juggling: Same exact effect as chain grabbing, except the victim is trapped in a loop caused by certain characters’ upward attack/smash.

3. Ledge hogging: This one requires no skill at all. Unlike with edge guarding, which involves you attacking your opponent as they try to recover, ledge hogging involves you just grabbing onto the ledge before your opponent can recover, causing them to fall to their demise. Smashfags will defend it to the death, calling it a “strategy”. They criticize those who refuse to be a wuss by doing something so cowardly.

As long as we’re on the subject of Brawl, I have a question with a Brawl-related example: People keep bringing up how “cheapness” is just the losing player’s way of venting his frustration. What if a strategy actually is cheap?

In the wrong hands, for instance, Sonic can hold out indefinitely–he’s faster than any other character, making him almost impossible to catch with a powerhouse like Ike or Ganondorf, and is far more agile than the average–until getting a Smash Ball, at which point he can just rape you back and forth.

When the items are off, that’s no problem obviously, and I’ve never fought someone using Sonic who was a challenge without items. And you can counter someone playing with the aforementioned strategy, though it really depends on your character’s speed (Captain Falcon seems the best at countering Sonic). Even still though, would that qualify as a “cheap” strategy?

Best thing about competitive Brawl, though? The desperation its players have to be recognized as good. Even to the point where NO outside interference will be acknowledged, lest it rob them of the adoration of their peers and lessen their magnificent victory. Hence the most idiotic phrase in fighting game lingo history: “no johns”.

I feel sick.

[Initial_R_1]

I told you, that entire thread is filled to the brim with scrubs. It is a scrub quote gold mine