What a scrub. I knew he would find some dumb gimmick thing to get around a move that Sakura would normally have a tough time getting around.
Anyway, to counter RC jab dp, I would try and only jump forward when Sak is walking forward herself. People usually aren’t ready to anti-air (especially with a tricky execution anti-air like RC dp) when they want to walk forward to most likely go for something else. Other than that, play against her as if you were playing against P-groove. Sagat doesn’t need to jump, but just stick with far s.LK, d.MP, and d.HP on the ground instead. You CAN however anti-air for free every jumpin Sakura does since A-groove has no air-block or parry. Use Sagat jump back HK and far s.HK whenever the angle for HP Tiger Uppercut is off. And finally, if he’s not using the dp+LP deep, you can airblock it with C-Sagat anyway.
You’re absolutely right about almost every single Sagat not being good enough to do anything other than get raped by a mediocre Sakura anyway. Pity Choi didn’t show up over the weekend. That matchup would of been free. Sanford copying Choi down to the letter was probably the closest thing unfortunately. I know fabulous Ricky plays a really strong any groove Sagat, but he always plays those A-scrub teams in tourney.
I think recently Sagat has dropped status of being as good as he used to be, he is seemingly harder and harder to use vs characters that can abuse RC such as Honda/Blanka/Sak/Bison and A groove in general, so to those who use anchor Sagats I applaud you (check out John Choi sagat) because it’s very tough to win nowadays since everyone can RC just about.
As for Sakura, she’s not as popular as she used to be but still up there in terms of tiers. Don’t get me wrong a solid turtle sakura is just as good as she ever was, and she’s pretty much a direct counter against K,P, and has advantage vs sagat/blanka.
responding to kxcj’s quote “You CAN however anti-air for free every jumpin Sakura does since A-groove has no air-block or parry.” :
Your forgetting the fact that A groove is the best groove esp. when the player is RANDOM. Roll > activate, and jump-in > activate, dash > activate are too strong to go un-noticed, all it takes is the opponent to 50/50 guess, and for you to press anything OR walk forward, and your gone.
oh yeah and most of the footage of japanese players online are whack (cvs2) except for the known players, here’s a pretty good website for videos, and they update consistantly:
kcxj, who are you? Im not trying to be disrespectful or anything but it seems like youre blowing off anyone saying anything about how good Sakura is. Sakura dominated at this weekend’s TS5 and last year’s evo2k.
I can see what youre saying if you really are Mago or one of the SBO finalist, but otherwise…what are you talking about?
Naw I got more respect for Dan and Shiro etc etc. Cuz they play w/ chars that require crazy footsies to win. But I will never sit here and call Bas a scrub, considering 95% of what most A groovers do, was jocked off of him. I just don’t see how you call him a scrub, cuz last I checked he was placing 5th at TS5 while you were making this post. I mean if Bas is a scrub, then what does that make Justin, Arturo, Sanford and all those guys who placed lower than him and regularly beat your ass? And in turn, wtf does that make you?
Ace? Damn man, I was kidding. If you guys take it that seriously and are comparing me to him of all people then whatever, I’ll stop posting. :tdown:
The point was that I think playing (and winning) with Sagat takes more skills than doing some gimmicky with RC Sak. Cheesemaster can say whatever he wants, but if other people are taking it wrong now too then guess I’ll stop being stupid. Sorry!
If I knew you were joking I wouldn’t have replied. As for Sagat, I 100% agree. I think Blanka and Honda and Sakura are some of the simplest characters to play in CvS2 by a landslide, and I’ve always said A groove is the easiest groove to be a threat with. Are you coming to MWCs this year?
I know fabulous Ricky plays a really strong any groove Sagat, but he always plays those A-scrub teams in tourney.