Sagat Changes should be posted tonight

with nerfs to other characters did he feel stronger in anyway? and how far did the TU increase actually go in game?

is the Tiger knee any different at all? specifially is lk faster / better and is mk worse?? mk looks the same from what i saw.
we know low tiger shot has 1 frame extra recovery , but did u test the high tiger shot??

Uppercut damage increased a bit if hit on ground, from 100->120 as the blog/Arcadia said
He is indeed a lot weaker compare to vanilla, but I think he is still a decent choice as a sub :stuck_out_tongue:
You can still do well if you know him…

3 vids posted, 3 wins by Sagat :wink: :wink:

Ultra 1 still Whiffs in the corner

AA damage still kept on TU

Can’t tell about Tiger Shots yet.

Didn’t see Sagat get punished on one TK, but this is only of 3 videos.

We have to wait until a pro-sagat comments(lol)

Second hit of MK knee still did ass damage.

hahaha good one

I so wish you were just trolling but I don’t think you are lol.

lol I was.

Seems to be the same.

The Whiff ultra was true though

Toyoizumi: You got to play some AE. What are your first impressions?

Umehara: Impressions? Basically that it?s over for projectile characters (laughs). All the non-projectile characters have gotten buffed, whereas I think Deejay is the only projectile character that has really gotten buffed. Sagat has gotten better, but Ryu, Akuma, Guile, Dhalsim, and I suppose Chun, they?ve all gotten nerfed. And grapplers have also gotten buffed. Projectile characters were strongest in Vanilla, but it?s the other way around now in AE. But I plan to use Yun so it?s not a big deal for me. I guess that?s my impression of AE.

Contradiction?

Toyoizumi: Both his Super and Ultra are good, so I?m sure he?ll get better with more research. If Evo?11 is AE, do you think you?ll use Yun?

Umehara: Yes. Yun and? probably another character to use against Zangief. Maybe Guile? or Sagat, even though I haven?t really used him.

Daigo using Sagat in the SF4 series would be quite the sight, this isn’t cvs2 Daigo lol :wink:

Toyoizumi: Where do you think Sagat stands in the rankings?

Umehara: Lower high tier, I think. Zangief is a powerhouse, so it?s a huge boost if he can beat Zangief. But I don?t know how he?ll fare against Yun and Yang yet.

This man threw fb users/shotos under the bus and is d riding the red cyclone is this really the sf series? I just don’t know anymore.

No, he just said Sagat has gotten better, he and DJ mostly. Which is true compared to the other projectile guys. It’s not like this pushed severely the projectile characters down the ranks to the replaced by non-projectile ones, or something like that. But it’s a reality that most of them got nerfed; and the beastiness of Yun and buffed Mak got him interested.

But its really something his fear of Gief. I know he switched to Yun already but Gief is looking more dangerous now. Sad that Hawk was forgotten, i like him better…

hey guys
I like to play dudley and sagat on the side so i did get a chance to play sagat in arcade edition and heres what i got…

His angry scar damage compared to his uppercut damage right now isnt really worth the meter
The motion is with kick instead of punch and im sure most of u guys know that
theres probably situations where u guys still might use angry scar… maybe trying to break focus or something
His tiger knee is still ass and it leaves u at a disadvantage…
his st. short is still pretty bad u gotta cancel off the first hit
his fireball game is so bad… high tiger shots and low tiger shots feel like they have the same recovery…
i ended up using his normals more than his fireballs
The only buff i really saw was the uppercut damage, which is somewhat respectable now
the tiger knee juggle after an FADC is still ass and isnt worth the meter…
I dont think anything really changed about sagat… hes still mid tier … bottom of the high tier at best
well thats all i have for now
i hope no1 gets too sad =(

ty for the info sir. Have you a razor I may borrow to cut myself with?

I notice when u fuck up a tiger knee now, it leaves u a little spaced so you arent free to throw punishes easily (maybe a long kara throw perhaps), and they gotta cr lp/lk punish into something. So thats something.

interesting…

If this is true about high TS…

Thank you for the news!
you say his tiger shots game is bad, can you go more in detail? you say his recovery is still the same?
how much dmg is he dishing out with AS and TU? better yet ex TU

because of the extra damage to TU , does angry scar TU now do more damage or is it still 180?

You know that seems like it should be more damage but at the same time if EX AS TU does over 240 for 2 bars on only 1 move it seems broken. I think capcom fucked us completely with AS.

I don’t think his high shot is getting slower, definitely not as slow as low shot because you can still combo in Ultra2 fullscreen with ex high shots(ground hit).

btw, Ryu matchup is alot easier because his 2mk and air hurricane kick nerf. Guile matchup is also easier now.